| Early signings 11:56 - May 7 with 2998 views | C_Jam_Blue |
We all want to see early signings this summer with a good pre-season and time to bed in. When are we likely to see activity, I really can't remember from last year. I presume the various play-offs will need to be out of the way but when realistically can we begin to see new arrivals. |  | | |  |
| Early signings on 12:00 - May 7 with 2970 views | wkj |
To me, early would be within the first 2 or 3 weeks of getting back in the office. If we've made any pre-contract agreements with players on expiring deals - they would likely have been completed, or are being completed during this period. As for putting in transfer offers, I wouldn't imagine that will be happening until after the summer recess. |  |
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| Early signings on 12:14 - May 7 with 2919 views | J2BLUE |
People need to be realistic about when 'early' actually is.
Also, although not ideal, waiting for players can pay off. We got Walton and Morsy late. |  |
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| Early signings on 12:26 - May 7 with 2877 views | jayessess |
I think it's probably less crucial this Summer? Last Summer our first starting line-up had 5 players who weren't really intended to be regular starters. It also had 8 new signings in it, 3 of whom hadn't signed until well into July (late July in Chaplin's case).
I think even at this stage we've got 8 likely starters already in the building (Walton, Donacien, Woolf, Edmundson, Burns, Evans, Morsy, Chaplin), plus a few more reliable squad players (Burgess, Penney, KVY, El Mizouni, Edwards, Aluko, maybe Jackson), kids who might step up (Humphreys, Baggott, Ndaba, Chirewa, Dobra), senior pros who might show something in the Summer (Harper, Pigott) and possible returnees who can be integrated quickly (Celina, Bakinson, Jackson).
Even if we make little early progress on new signings we'll be in a position to do good pre-season work and to put out a very competitive line-up Late July. |  |
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| Early signings on 13:58 - May 7 with 2698 views | Churchman |
| Early signings on 12:26 - May 7 by jayessess |
I think it's probably less crucial this Summer? Last Summer our first starting line-up had 5 players who weren't really intended to be regular starters. It also had 8 new signings in it, 3 of whom hadn't signed until well into July (late July in Chaplin's case).
I think even at this stage we've got 8 likely starters already in the building (Walton, Donacien, Woolf, Edmundson, Burns, Evans, Morsy, Chaplin), plus a few more reliable squad players (Burgess, Penney, KVY, El Mizouni, Edwards, Aluko, maybe Jackson), kids who might step up (Humphreys, Baggott, Ndaba, Chirewa, Dobra), senior pros who might show something in the Summer (Harper, Pigott) and possible returnees who can be integrated quickly (Celina, Bakinson, Jackson).
Even if we make little early progress on new signings we'll be in a position to do good pre-season work and to put out a very competitive line-up Late July. |
It’s a lot less urgent than last year exactly for the reasons you give. The core of the squad will get a proper pre-season regardless. I hope they are able to get done any intended business early, but I’m mindful of Ashton’s comment last year that the transfer you think easy often isn’t and the difficult ones visa versa. |  | | |
| Early signings on 14:07 - May 7 with 2648 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Early signings on 12:14 - May 7 by J2BLUE |
People need to be realistic about when 'early' actually is.
Also, although not ideal, waiting for players can pay off. We got Walton and Morsy late. |
Whilst true. It also played a part in our early season problems.
Imo we need to get everyone in before we return for pre season.. the later it goes on, the harder the start will be |  |
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| Early signings on 14:18 - May 7 with 2627 views | Beckets |
There’s about a week between the transfer window opening and returning to pre season training. |  | | |
| Early signings on 14:23 - May 7 with 2587 views | xrayspecs |
Bakinson if we choose to pursue him could happen early.
Suspect there will be little visible activity until July. Like last season, we may need to wait until close to the end of the window before we land out targets. | | | |
| Early signings on 14:33 - May 7 with 2540 views | jayessess |
| Early signings on 14:07 - May 7 by FrimleyBlue |
Whilst true. It also played a part in our early season problems.
Imo we need to get everyone in before we return for pre season.. the later it goes on, the harder the start will be |
That said, we had a fair few of our eventual first team group here on July 1: Woolfenden, Donacien, Penney, Burns, KVY, Evans, El Mizouni, Norwood, Bonne, Jackson. Just that the majority of them weren't regarded as proper first teamers! | |
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| Early signings on 14:37 - May 7 with 2506 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Early signings on 14:33 - May 7 by jayessess |
That said, we had a fair few of our eventual first team group here on July 1: Woolfenden, Donacien, Penney, Burns, KVY, Evans, El Mizouni, Norwood, Bonne, Jackson. Just that the majority of them weren't regarded as proper first teamers! |
Very true
I still can't be specific in how many KM will look to bring in.
Sometimes I think just 3 or 4. But then I do wonder even those who have looked solid this year.. Will he have other ideas. I.e the likes of Wolfenden. Donacien. Key players. But don't seem to offer anything at set pieces. Do we need to sacrifice something to add something we desperately need ( our deliveries aren't that bad tbh)
I'm genuinely caught on how much the squad needs changing. | |
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| Early signings on 14:44 - May 7 with 2498 views | BigCommon |
"Early" for me, would mean getting the lions share of ins and out done by mid July... McKenna mentioned wanting to get everything done as early as possible.. But, as we all know, signing the right players isn't as simple as ABC, even if they've been targeted for some time.. I'm not expecting to hear much (anything concrete) for a few weeks at least... Trying to shut my ears, to all the absurdities in the mean time.. |  | | |
| Early signings on 15:26 - May 7 with 2412 views | PioneerBlue |
Let’s be realistic.
Last year we had money to spend and we still didn’t manage to close big deals until late in TW. It’s often not down to ITFC, it’s the selling clubs, players and agents stringing out player-sale chains like houses. If we have eyes on any out of contract players these could happen quickly, others we can only hope we acquire quickly and get the benefit of a preseason which we know would be beneficial. | |
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| Early signings on 17:33 - May 7 with 2285 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
The season starts very early this year. Whilst every season managers want to get players in early, every season selling clubs want to get best value and expect to negotiate on price and potentially play clubs off against each other. It is likely that whatever deals we get done, some of them will end up into the season nearer the end of the window. |  |
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| Early signings on 17:54 - May 7 with 2227 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Early signings on 15:26 - May 7 by PioneerBlue |
Let’s be realistic.
Last year we had money to spend and we still didn’t manage to close big deals until late in TW. It’s often not down to ITFC, it’s the selling clubs, players and agents stringing out player-sale chains like houses. If we have eyes on any out of contract players these could happen quickly, others we can only hope we acquire quickly and get the benefit of a preseason which we know would be beneficial. |
Might be a bit quicker this time round.
Post covid era might possibly have slowed down the usual window activity past summer as clubs were careful who they let go incase they couldn't replace and this had a domino effect. We might see it going a bit faster this summer as clubs are more aware of their finances, appreciate the turnover ahead of them and trust the season sint going to end up behind closed doors whilst having a large squad outgoing spend.
Obviously this is just how I see it being the case base on non league friends and how they approached it themselves but its never that far off what happens higher up the football league. | |
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| Early signings on 18:17 - May 7 with 2173 views | wkj |
| Early signings on 17:54 - May 7 by FrimleyBlue |
Might be a bit quicker this time round.
Post covid era might possibly have slowed down the usual window activity past summer as clubs were careful who they let go incase they couldn't replace and this had a domino effect. We might see it going a bit faster this summer as clubs are more aware of their finances, appreciate the turnover ahead of them and trust the season sint going to end up behind closed doors whilst having a large squad outgoing spend.
Obviously this is just how I see it being the case base on non league friends and how they approached it themselves but its never that far off what happens higher up the football league. |
I expect the opposite may be true. Although clubs need that money coming in fairly fast after the Summers of Lockdown, with a full season of gates I expect many clubs will be a little more enterprising in their selling game. | |
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| Early signings on 18:23 - May 7 with 2126 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Early signings on 18:17 - May 7 by wkj |
I expect the opposite may be true. Although clubs need that money coming in fairly fast after the Summers of Lockdown, with a full season of gates I expect many clubs will be a little more enterprising in their selling game. |
Indeed, it will also be interesting financially between clubs on how things may have changed going into the summer. We were one of a few clubs with the financial advantage last summer, I'm sure we will be up there again but not sure if we will have that lower champ level leverage that we had last summer. That's the only slight negative we could face. But it's definitely still an exciting summer ahead. | |
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| Early signings on 19:09 - May 7 with 2077 views | Vic |
| Early signings on 12:14 - May 7 by J2BLUE |
People need to be realistic about when 'early' actually is.
Also, although not ideal, waiting for players can pay off. We got Walton and Morsy late. |
Morsey and Walton (arguably our two best players) coming in late makes me wonder if there was any correlation between the timing of a players signing and their ultimate success last season? Ie, did the ones who came in early do better of worse than the one we secured late in the window? |  |
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| Early signings on 07:22 - May 8 with 1856 views | PioneerBlue |
| Early signings on 18:23 - May 7 by FrimleyBlue |
Indeed, it will also be interesting financially between clubs on how things may have changed going into the summer. We were one of a few clubs with the financial advantage last summer, I'm sure we will be up there again but not sure if we will have that lower champ level leverage that we had last summer. That's the only slight negative we could face. But it's definitely still an exciting summer ahead. |
[For those that like precision approximations used]
Although we have a couple of players with injuries that may cut across
pre season, we are better placed this summer. We had like 4-6 players that ended as first XI for a lot of preseason last year. Ingoing this time, we have 8 first XI and 4-5 good back up players in the building. It’s a better base even if it takes some weeks to finalise things this time. | |
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| Early signings on 10:42 - May 8 with 1682 views | jayessess |
| Early signings on 19:09 - May 7 by Vic |
Morsey and Walton (arguably our two best players) coming in late makes me wonder if there was any correlation between the timing of a players signing and their ultimate success last season? Ie, did the ones who came in early do better of worse than the one we secured late in the window? |
By July 1st
Burns
Harper
Bonne
Hladky
Evans
Penney
Mid-July
Fraser
Pigott
Late-July
Edmundson
Chaplin
early-August
Barry
Aluko
Coulson
Edwards
Burgess
Late August
Carroll
Walton
Celina
Morsy
Pre-July 1st a mixed bag, early July a sh1tshow, late July bang on, early August weak, late August strong. [Post edited 8 May 2022 10:45]
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| Early signings on 12:07 - May 8 with 1579 views | Kieran_Knows |
Burns signed on 3rd June last summer. Although I’d say that’s early as we were having a complete overhaul. |  |
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| Early signings on 13:45 - May 8 with 1425 views | PioneerBlue |
| Early signings on 10:42 - May 8 by jayessess |
By July 1st
Burns
Harper
Bonne
Hladky
Evans
Penney
Mid-July
Fraser
Pigott
Late-July
Edmundson
Chaplin
early-August
Barry
Aluko
Coulson
Edwards
Burgess
Late August
Carroll
Walton
Celina
Morsy
Pre-July 1st a mixed bag, early July a sh1tshow, late July bang on, early August weak, late August strong. [Post edited 8 May 2022 10:45]
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Thanks for back up info. It’s really not surprising our early season form was pitiful when you look at it like that.
This year we at least have a base. If we didn’t cover our new key positions and Edmundson/Edwards don’t become injury free until later in the window we start preseason with
Walton,
Donacien, Wolf, Burgess,
Burns, Penny,
Morsy and Evans,
Chaplin and Aluko
Piggot
Still with back up
Hladky
KVY, Ndaba,
Baggot
Harper, El Miz
Humphreys
Jackson? | |
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