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Leafing through his autobiography. What a pompous, bitter old windbag he was. He couldn't understand the reaction to his decisions in the 1975 semi final replay and bore a grudge easily. After saying that Bobby was not fit to manage England, he went on to add
"other players from the Ipswich side who should never in my opinion been near the England squad - they would not have been 10 years ago - are Russell Osman and Terry Butcher. Butcher appears to have no particular skills other than to ensure no one passes him...they are people who by their attitude do very little to help the game and who should not be copied by young people".
Does make you question what Butcher's foremost role in the team was.
Thomas was sh1te
No idea when I began here, was a very long time ago. Previously known as Spirit_of_81. Love cheese, hate the colour of it, this is why it requires some blue in it.
Very few referees are ever the centre of attention for good reasons. The fact he has written an autobiography tells you that he wanted to be the centre of attention too.
There are only a very small number of referees whose autobiographies would be worth publishing. Dermot Gallagher and Pierluigi Collina spring to mind.
Very few referees are ever the centre of attention for good reasons. The fact he has written an autobiography tells you that he wanted to be the centre of attention too.
There are only a very small number of referees whose autobiographies would be worth publishing. Dermot Gallagher and Pierluigi Collina spring to mind.
He refers to himself in the third person at times which shows what an ego maniac he was. I saw Jeff Winter doing an after dinner and he was another one who thought the fans had paid to watch him.
My Dad has few real dislikes from his years of watching Town but mention of Clive Thomas or the sound of that Bubbles dirge even half a century on still get a reaction.
Very few referees are ever the centre of attention for good reasons. The fact he has written an autobiography tells you that he wanted to be the centre of attention too.
There are only a very small number of referees whose autobiographies would be worth publishing. Dermot Gallagher and Pierluigi Collina spring to mind.
Dermot Gallagher was twice suspended by the PL for 'poor performance'
An uneventful scoreless draw meant a Stamford Bridge replay four days later and a match that is still debated in certain quarters of East Anglia to this day. Another tight game saw the sides locked together at 1-1 when Ipswich had not one but two seemingly perfect goals disallowed. Bryan Hamilton was judged to have been offside in one particular decision that enraged Bobby Robson so much that he called for an FA enquiry into Thomas after the game. This in turn offended Thomas to the degree that the two men held each other in contempt and animosity for the rest of Thomas’ career and beyond.
Writing in his autobiography “By the Book” in 1984, Thomas stated:
“Robson first made a bad impression on me at a semi-final replay at Chelsea in 1975. I took the names of four Ipswich players — Burley, Hamilton, Beattie and Wark — as they were losing to West Ham. After the match, during which I had disallowed a goal, Robson stated to the press: ‘The referee was in absolutely no position to give an offside decision. The linesman was in a perfect position and he signalled it was a goal — there were several FA administrators at the game and I challenged them to take action against the referee. If they don’t, they are failing in their duty to professional soccer.’
“Such an outburst by a manager does no good to the game. I would agree with Robson that the administrators failed to do their duty — but only by not taking a grip of him and giving him a warning. A member of the appeals committee that heard the players’ case was Mr Bert Millichip, chairman of the FA, who appointed Robson to his England post. I wonder whether they said even a single word to Robson”.
Thomas also stated that from then on Ipswich Town captain, Mick Mills, made a point of never shaking Thomas’ hand again, even during pre-match toss ups.
I remember watching that game live on the box. Couldn't believe that he didn't blow for full time either before the corner or after the ball had gone dead.
I remember watching that game live on the box. Couldn't believe that he didn't blow for full time either before the corner or after the ball had gone dead.
The bloke was a complete egotistical tool.
In the BBC clip he using the fact that the commentator says he should have blown before it is taken as justification for him blowing up between Zico heading it and it crossing the line!
I remember watching that game live on the box. Couldn't believe that he didn't blow for full time either before the corner or after the ball had gone dead.
The bloke was a complete egotistical tool.
Yes watched that game. As I recall brazil had a slow start but were piling it in the last 20 minutes to get a winner. If anything Sweden were the ones doing a bit of time wasting, although mild by today’s standards, and of course denying Sweden a goal like that wouldn’t have grabbed the headlines quite as much.
My eldest son just sent me a link about the 1977 FA cup semi final when Thomas disallowed a Bryan Hamilton goal for Everton for handball. They would have beaten Liverpool instead of drawing 2.2 and losing the replay.
And in the 1976 euros he missed a foul by a Czech player on Johann Cruyff from which the Czechs scored a decisive goal to get to the final. Apparently he actually admitted a mistake on this one!
I was watching the 78 World Cup game when he disallowed Brazil a winning goal against Sweden by blowing for full time as the ball was being crossed from a corner just before Zico headed it in the net!
I remember watching that game live on the box. Couldn't believe that he didn't blow for full time either before the corner or after the ball had gone dead.
The bloke was a complete egotistical tool.
You've spelt egotistical c*** incorrectly.
My heart sank when he was announced as the ref for the '78 cup semi final. Gave him dogs abuse for large parts of the match, but at least history didn't repeat the '75 debacle.
Horrible little man.
We have no village green, or a shop.
It's very, very quiet.
I can walk to the pub.
My eldest son just sent me a link about the 1977 FA cup semi final when Thomas disallowed a Bryan Hamilton goal for Everton for handball. They would have beaten Liverpool instead of drawing 2.2 and losing the replay.
And in the 1976 euros he missed a foul by a Czech player on Johann Cruyff from which the Czechs scored a decisive goal to get to the final. Apparently he actually admitted a mistake on this one!
I was watching the 78 World Cup game when he disallowed Brazil a winning goal against Sweden by blowing for full time as the ball was being crossed from a corner just before Zico headed it in the net!
Always all about him!
It would seem Mr Thomas had something against Bryan Hamilton
My eldest son just sent me a link about the 1977 FA cup semi final when Thomas disallowed a Bryan Hamilton goal for Everton for handball. They would have beaten Liverpool instead of drawing 2.2 and losing the replay.
And in the 1976 euros he missed a foul by a Czech player on Johann Cruyff from which the Czechs scored a decisive goal to get to the final. Apparently he actually admitted a mistake on this one!
I was watching the 78 World Cup game when he disallowed Brazil a winning goal against Sweden by blowing for full time as the ball was being crossed from a corner just before Zico headed it in the net!
Always all about him!
Hamilton's "goal is at about 11:40. He clearly wasn't offside & Thomas admitted afterwards he hadn't disallowed it for offside. He eventually said that he had disallowed the goal because he couldn't believe Hamilton could have deflected it in legitimately without using his arm, although it looks to me as if he chested it in.
Hamilton's "goal is at about 11:40. He clearly wasn't offside & Thomas admitted afterwards he hadn't disallowed it for offside. He eventually said that he had disallowed the goal because he couldn't believe Hamilton could have deflected it in legitimately without using his arm, although it looks to me as if he chested it in.
If he used his hand Clemance would have been doing his nut. Instead he looked distraught when Hamilton scored. Not one Liverpool protested the goal either. As you say Radlett perfectly good goal
If he used his hand Clemance would have been doing his nut. Instead he looked distraught when Hamilton scored. Not one Liverpool protested the goal either. As you say Radlett perfectly good goal
Indeed, Thomas just "guessed", which is poor refereeing considering he hadn't actually seen an offence from his position & neither had his linesman. Same when he disallowed a Town goal in the West Ham replay for off-side - again, no flag from his linesman.
If he used his hand Clemance would have been doing his nut. Instead he looked distraught when Hamilton scored. Not one Liverpool protested the goal either. As you say Radlett perfectly good goal
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