| Joe Pigott 09:07 - May 18 with 3877 views | ThatMuhrenCross |
I'm not prepared to write him off yet. He's the kind of big physical striker that normally gets you out of this division, and I also think he's a confidence player. If McKenna can get into him and he has a decent pre-season, I still think he's as good as anything else we're going to find at this level. |  |
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| Joe Pigott on 09:11 - May 18 with 2259 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
But if you had a choice between:
Pigott staying
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Pigott being sold and a different "big, physical striker" being brought in.
Which would you go for?
I would go for the second option, mainly because Pigott hasn't even looked physical for us. Just a big bloke who doesn't dominate Div 1 Centre Backs, with a variable first touch, who has confidence issues in front of goal. |  | | |
| Joe Pigott on 09:12 - May 18 with 2251 views | BiGDonnie |
He's an absolute donkey and I'd be gutted and surprised if he's anywhere near the first team by the start of next season. |  |
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| Joe Pigott on 09:13 - May 18 with 2244 views | Wickets |
I tend to agree confidence is huge and you only have to look at Bonne this season and Will Keane's spell to understand that . |  | | |
| Joe Pigott on 09:23 - May 18 with 2200 views | pointofblue |
He seems to have a good season then bad season - he scored 18 goals in 48 appearances in 18/19, then nine in 39 in 19/20 before netting 22 in 52 in 20/21. So on those grounds next year could be a successful one for him. I’m not concerned that he can’t do it at this level as he clearly can; he isn’t a one season wonder. But our style doesn’t play to our strengths and he hasn’t been given a run of games to try and play himself into form. We may find it difficult to offload him but, if we fail to play to his strengths, then he may well end up a financial albatross. | |
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| Joe Pigott on 09:26 - May 18 with 2178 views | BlueBadger |
But what ARE his strengths?
He doesn't have any presence in the box, doesn't hold the ball up and bring others into play and doesn't have any pace.
I'm not sure what exactly it is he offers.
I suspect the only reason he'll be still on the books come next season is that no-one else will be willing to pay his wages. |  |
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| Joe Pigott on 09:28 - May 18 with 2170 views | STYG |
With Wolf, you had a player there that looked superb in the Championship.
With Donacien, I saw a player completely outcast that I'd always thought looked a decent defender.
With Piggott, I've seen nothing. No aerial ability, no goal threat, no tireless running, no passing ability. All he's done is literally two bits of nice close control, one of which he then gave the ball away and to be honest, I can still do what he did just as well and I'm twice his age.
He's had good feet twice in 20 appearances. If he made a Wolf or Donacien style sudden improvement he'd still only elevate himself to an average League One striker. He's miles off it. [Post edited 18 May 2022 9:34]
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| Joe Pigott on 09:28 - May 18 with 2165 views | Guthrum |
| Joe Pigott on 09:11 - May 18 by ArnoldMoorhen |
But if you had a choice between:
Pigott staying
and
Pigott being sold and a different "big, physical striker" being brought in.
Which would you go for?
I would go for the second option, mainly because Pigott hasn't even looked physical for us. Just a big bloke who doesn't dominate Div 1 Centre Backs, with a variable first touch, who has confidence issues in front of goal. |
That's what it comes down to.
Moreover, does McKenna believe he can get more out of Pigott? He does have a fairly consistently good scoring record over four seasons before he came to Town (all comps - 19, 18, 9, 22), the majority of that in L1. However, he's made not much more than half the number of appearances this time (often as a sub) that he made in most of those seasons. |  |
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| Joe Pigott on 09:32 - May 18 with 2136 views | OsborneOneNil |
| Joe Pigott on 09:28 - May 18 by STYG |
With Wolf, you had a player there that looked superb in the Championship.
With Donacien, I saw a player completely outcast that I'd always thought looked a decent defender.
With Piggott, I've seen nothing. No aerial ability, no goal threat, no tireless running, no passing ability. All he's done is literally two bits of nice close control, one of which he then gave the ball away and to be honest, I can still do what he did just as well and I'm twice his age.
He's had good feet twice in 20 appearances. If he made a Wolf or Donacien style sudden improvement he'd still only elevate himself to an average League One striker. He's miles off it. [Post edited 18 May 2022 9:34]
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| Joe Pigott on 09:33 - May 18 with 2137 views | BlueBadger |
| Joe Pigott on 09:28 - May 18 by STYG |
With Wolf, you had a player there that looked superb in the Championship.
With Donacien, I saw a player completely outcast that I'd always thought looked a decent defender.
With Piggott, I've seen nothing. No aerial ability, no goal threat, no tireless running, no passing ability. All he's done is literally two bits of nice close control, one of which he then gave the ball away and to be honest, I can still do what he did just as well and I'm twice his age.
He's had good feet twice in 20 appearances. If he made a Wolf or Donacien style sudden improvement he'd still only elevate himself to an average League One striker. He's miles off it. [Post edited 18 May 2022 9:34]
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Worth mentioning that other than two seasons, his stats in league football are pretty unremarkable, too.
He's cracked double figures for goals in a season only twice at our current level. Not good enough, sadly.
He's a poor man's Kevin Lisbie or Tamas Priskin, signed on the back of one exceptional season. [Post edited 18 May 2022 9:33]
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| Joe Pigott on 09:33 - May 18 with 2128 views | STYG |
Sorry, didn't mean to sit on the fence.
Should have given some sort of clue! lol. | | | |
| Joe Pigott on 09:34 - May 18 with 2122 views | RegencyBlue |
Obviously time will tell but he doesn’t strike me as the sort of player McKenna wants in his team.
McKenna seems to value pace up front, hence his praise for Jackson. I feel sorry for Pigott but I think his time here is already done if we can sell or loan him out.
If we can’t I don’t see him featuring much. |  | | |
| Joe Pigott on 09:38 - May 18 with 2098 views | BlueBadger |
| Joe Pigott on 09:34 - May 18 by RegencyBlue |
Obviously time will tell but he doesn’t strike me as the sort of player McKenna wants in his team.
McKenna seems to value pace up front, hence his praise for Jackson. I feel sorry for Pigott but I think his time here is already done if we can sell or loan him out.
If we can’t I don’t see him featuring much. |
Worth pointing out as well, that Piggot isn't a young player who could be coached into adapting his game readily. He's 28, should be at the peak of his game and his career has been largely unremarkable, thus far. | |
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| Joe Pigott on 09:41 - May 18 with 2063 views | tractorboy1978 |
McKenna doesn't want a big, physical striker though. He wants someone in the Jackson mould but better - pace, mobile, can run the channels, stretch defences, link play and play in a fluid front 3. [Post edited 18 May 2022 9:43]
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| Joe Pigott on 09:42 - May 18 with 2061 views | Dubtractor |
But he isn't really a big physical striker is he?
He's tall, but I haven't seen too much physicality in his game at all. |  |
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| Joe Pigott on 09:42 - May 18 with 2066 views | itfcjoe |
Sadly he's just a good fit in what McKenna does - we need very athletic strikers and JP just isn't that.
If we don't get shot of him, he'll be the highest paid 4th choice striker in the league by a considerable distance |  |
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| Joe Pigott on 09:45 - May 18 with 2028 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Joe Pigott on 09:42 - May 18 by itfcjoe |
Sadly he's just a good fit in what McKenna does - we need very athletic strikers and JP just isn't that.
If we don't get shot of him, he'll be the highest paid 4th choice striker in the league by a considerable distance |
I can't see how he stays here, even if we only shift a couple of grand a week of his salary elsewhere. I wouldn't have thought they will want to be naming him in the squad and his wages coming into our SCMP calculations. | | | |
| Joe Pigott on 09:46 - May 18 with 2029 views | BlueBadger |
| Joe Pigott on 09:42 - May 18 by Dubtractor |
But he isn't really a big physical striker is he?
He's tall, but I haven't seen too much physicality in his game at all. |
He's basically Tamas Priskin. Lanky, occasional nice bit on control, offers nothing, cost us too much and arrived on the back of an atypical season. [Post edited 18 May 2022 9:46]
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| Joe Pigott on 09:46 - May 18 with 2014 views | Guthrum |
| Joe Pigott on 09:33 - May 18 by BlueBadger |
Worth mentioning that other than two seasons, his stats in league football are pretty unremarkable, too.
He's cracked double figures for goals in a season only twice at our current level. Not good enough, sadly.
He's a poor man's Kevin Lisbie or Tamas Priskin, signed on the back of one exceptional season. [Post edited 18 May 2022 9:33]
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However, that's two out of just three full seasons in L1 before he came to Town, which was also pretty much the only settled period of his career (rather than constantly being out on loan).
Not to mention that the season where he finished just short of double figures was the one curtailed by Covid. | |
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| Joe Pigott on 09:47 - May 18 with 2005 views | OriginalMarkyP |
| Joe Pigott on 09:42 - May 18 by Dubtractor |
But he isn't really a big physical striker is he?
He's tall, but I haven't seen too much physicality in his game at all. |
We had a physical striker with pace who scores goals but we released him because we most likely can't get Pigotts wages off the bill so couldn't afford to give him an extra year. |  |
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| Joe Pigott on 09:51 - May 18 with 1964 views | STYG |
| Joe Pigott on 09:47 - May 18 by OriginalMarkyP |
We had a physical striker with pace who scores goals but we released him because we most likely can't get Pigotts wages off the bill so couldn't afford to give him an extra year. |
No. We had a bloke charged with drink driving, that thought black face was funny, who had the odd scoring patch between being injured and being anonymous. | | | |
| Joe Pigott on 09:52 - May 18 with 1954 views | OriginalMarkyP |
| Joe Pigott on 09:42 - May 18 by itfcjoe |
Sadly he's just a good fit in what McKenna does - we need very athletic strikers and JP just isn't that.
If we don't get shot of him, he'll be the highest paid 4th choice striker in the league by a considerable distance |
I think take Pigott's contract out of the equation and McK would have preferred to keep Norwood out of the two.
I think Pigott may well sit on his contact and take the wages because I thnk it's going to be hard for him to get an equivalent pay cheque somewhere else. | |
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| Joe Pigott on 09:53 - May 18 with 1953 views | PhilTWTD |
| Joe Pigott on 09:46 - May 18 by BlueBadger |
He's basically Tamas Priskin. Lanky, occasional nice bit on control, offers nothing, cost us too much and arrived on the back of an atypical season. [Post edited 18 May 2022 9:46]
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He was a free transfer so the cost us too much is somewhat damning! Think he's more physical than Priskin, but clearly hasn't worked for him here and I'm sure he'll be one of those they'll be looking to move on. Think there are probably a number in that bracket, perhaps more than has been suggested. |  | | |
| Joe Pigott on 09:56 - May 18 with 1925 views | OriginalMarkyP |
| Joe Pigott on 09:53 - May 18 by PhilTWTD |
He was a free transfer so the cost us too much is somewhat damning! Think he's more physical than Priskin, but clearly hasn't worked for him here and I'm sure he'll be one of those they'll be looking to move on. Think there are probably a number in that bracket, perhaps more than has been suggested. |
So who do we think Phil?
Harper.
Pigott
Penny
Hladly
Idris
KVY
Edwards
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| Joe Pigott on 09:56 - May 18 with 1919 views | Dubtractor |
| Joe Pigott on 09:47 - May 18 by OriginalMarkyP |
We had a physical striker with pace who scores goals but we released him because we most likely can't get Pigotts wages off the bill so couldn't afford to give him an extra year. |
I think Norwood's race was run here, but he is a much better example of a physical striker that gives defenders problems. | |
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| Joe Pigott on 09:56 - May 18 with 1918 views | Guthrum |
| Joe Pigott on 09:53 - May 18 by PhilTWTD |
He was a free transfer so the cost us too much is somewhat damning! Think he's more physical than Priskin, but clearly hasn't worked for him here and I'm sure he'll be one of those they'll be looking to move on. Think there are probably a number in that bracket, perhaps more than has been suggested. |
Probably always going to be the case that when so many new players come into a club, not all of those will work out (or be needed) - especially when coupled with a change of Manager. | |
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