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Flight problems blamed on lack of staff 12:43 - May 31 with 1161 viewspointofblue

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61638567

I don’t get it - wasn’t the point of furlough to help companies not lay staff off so they wouldn’t be in this predicament?

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Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 13:01 - May 31 with 1075 viewsSaleAway

yeah, but it ended last september, and as you'll know, air travel didn't recover ( still hasn't to pre-covid levels). Airports couldn't afford to keep all staff on, and they are now suffering from that.

Some silly people removed access to a large, flexible workforce too, which is making recruitment in many sectors really hard.

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Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 13:10 - May 31 with 1023 viewsPlums

Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 13:01 - May 31 by SaleAway

yeah, but it ended last september, and as you'll know, air travel didn't recover ( still hasn't to pre-covid levels). Airports couldn't afford to keep all staff on, and they are now suffering from that.

Some silly people removed access to a large, flexible workforce too, which is making recruitment in many sectors really hard.


They knew what they were voting for...

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Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 13:11 - May 31 with 1016 viewsnoggin

Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 13:10 - May 31 by Plums

They knew what they were voting for...


Crowns on pint glasses?

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Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 13:13 - May 31 with 1004 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 13:10 - May 31 by Plums

They knew what they were voting for...


To be fair, once the bonfire of red tape has been burnt through we will be able to grab anyone off the street to fly the things. Some passenger successfully landed a light aircraft the other day so it obviously isn't too tricky to do.
[Post edited 31 May 2022 13:14]

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Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 13:14 - May 31 with 997 viewscatch74

We kept all our staff on at no small cost to a family run business (we still had to pay Paye, NI) 2 full timers left just as we 3 re- opened - which was nice. We were lucky that we were able to trade and were busy when the furlough reduced too.
I dread to think what it would have cost the tourist based business to keep everyone on without knowing when they would be fully operational again.
The furlough was handy for the government - some payment still placed on closed business. Yes, there were grants but these for me just about covered replacement of wasted stock plus bills and (reduced) rent. The grant we’re also taxable.

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Its Frickin Brexit... on 13:21 - May 31 with 956 viewsunstableblue

Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 13:01 - May 31 by SaleAway

yeah, but it ended last september, and as you'll know, air travel didn't recover ( still hasn't to pre-covid levels). Airports couldn't afford to keep all staff on, and they are now suffering from that.

Some silly people removed access to a large, flexible workforce too, which is making recruitment in many sectors really hard.


Even the Telegraph are blaming Brexit as well as quite rightly the Pandemic... when the Telegraph are stating it (they are basically repeating Airport senior managers, and other ancillary business leaders) then you know its massive.

As a country we need to come to terms with, AND, consider tighter alignment with European job markets is essential.

Don't get me started on this b@llsh!t HIGH PEDIGREE university visa scheme - which is Rwandan like in its stupidity, short sightedness, and basically prejudice

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Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 13:21 - May 31 with 959 viewsEireannach_gorm

You think that's bad, Dublin airport had these scenes on Sunday.
https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/05/31/hellish-queues-outside-dublin-airport

Seems to be happening all over Europe.
https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/europe/2022/05/30/europes-airport-chaos-ex
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Or we can use Yale and Harvard law graduates to shift the bags? (n/t) on 13:21 - May 31 with 945 viewsunstableblue

Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 13:13 - May 31 by Nthsuffolkblue

To be fair, once the bonfire of red tape has been burnt through we will be able to grab anyone off the street to fly the things. Some passenger successfully landed a light aircraft the other day so it obviously isn't too tricky to do.
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Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 13:23 - May 31 with 925 viewsWickhamsLeftBoot

Covid has unfortunately exposed the fragility of some industries, travel being perhaps the hardest hit.
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Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 14:06 - May 31 with 836 viewsghostofescobar

Part of the problem is that many EU workers have bvggered off and/or people have left the industry anyway and realised that it's sh1te pay and sh1te hours (at the baggage handler end, rather than the pilot end), and they've found work elsewhere, which may be sh1te pay or sh1te hours, but not both.

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Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 14:08 - May 31 with 817 viewsHARRY10

The problem is one of 'churn', or lack of it now.

Previously most low skilled jobs had relied upon a steady stream of now workers as others left for a variety or reasons - much as a squad with any football club. Shut off new players and slowly the squad numbers will decrease.

Such are the restrictions that those who. used to come in from the EU, often only on a short term basis either do not qualify, or the cost and rigmarole is not worth it. And as UK companies continue to move production and distribution back into the EU so the imperative to come to the UK diminishes.

This is not an exception. ut is the consequence of a government driven by the need for popilist and isially ill thought out ideas.

After 12 years if Tory rile both the DVLA and the passport office are struggling to keep up, and waiting ti es are increasing. The Tory solution ? Cut 'civil servants'.........which will merely lead to greater waiting time.

Having cut police numbers by 20,000 we are seeing the consequences, with reduced attendance and crime now going undetected, or even registered.

Another Tory idea was to cut nursing bursaries. Result, a shortage of 50,000 nursing staff. Elsewhere - "The NHS has lost almost 25,000 beds across the UK in the last decade, according to a damning report that says the fall has led to a sharp rise in waiting times for A&E, ambulances and operations."

We are supposedly one of the wealthiest countries (top 6 ?), yet we are being run like a third work country. Decades of Tory cuts and underspending have always meant incoming Labour governments have had to up spending to try and redress the balance - see how Tories left the country ill equipped for WW2. Mind you given how much they were in favour of Hitler it should not be a surprise.

After that war a Labout government recognised the need to provide for a hearlthy sociery, Out when thecodtly and ineffective health scheme. Children were given orange juice, milk. and an extra year at schiool. A massive house buildig programme was set up, and there was a sinse of purpose.

There is not that now. We have a lazy, spineless PM who seems only happy when skiving off for some photo op at a building site etc.

Ukraine is being attacked and wrecked by the Russians. We are being wrecked by those in the pay of Russians. A son of a KGB spy was made a lord.... by Johnson. Coincidence, I think not ?

Perhaps the chaos at the airports and ports might finally ram home the message to some of the not too bright.....master does not know best, and it is time to stand up, grow a backbone and be rid of Johnson, Dorries, Rabb, Patel, Hancock, Rees-Mogg, Coffey, Eustice and the rest of the rag bag of failures posing as a government.

Plan for the future of the country, not plan for another pss up at No 10.
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Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 14:14 - May 31 with 805 viewsJ2BLUE

Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 13:23 - May 31 by WickhamsLeftBoot

Covid has unfortunately exposed the fragility of some industries, travel being perhaps the hardest hit.


Most industries really. Covid wasn't a minor event, it was a sledgehammer to the head for the economy.

Truly impaired.
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Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 14:35 - May 31 with 749 viewsfactual_blue

Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 13:21 - May 31 by Eireannach_gorm

You think that's bad, Dublin airport had these scenes on Sunday.
https://www.euronews.com/travel/2022/05/31/hellish-queues-outside-dublin-airport

Seems to be happening all over Europe.
https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/europe/2022/05/30/europes-airport-chaos-ex


Clearly not Ireland; none of those queuing has a pig under their arm.




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Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 14:37 - May 31 with 743 viewschicoazul

Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 13:01 - May 31 by SaleAway

yeah, but it ended last september, and as you'll know, air travel didn't recover ( still hasn't to pre-covid levels). Airports couldn't afford to keep all staff on, and they are now suffering from that.

Some silly people removed access to a large, flexible workforce too, which is making recruitment in many sectors really hard.


Were there a lot of airline staff from the EU working in the Uk who have since left?

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Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 14:41 - May 31 with 734 viewsfabian_illness

Mrs Illness works at Stansted.
Don't believe all the sob stories the airlines and handling co's are peddling.
When COVID first hit, they laid off hundreds, if not thousands at Stansted. The skeleton staff they kept on had their wages slashed in a move which saw the unions broker a deal with the companies without consulting the staff.
Now everything is moving on again, the ground handling staff are still on a reduced wage, which amounts to minimum wage.
The turnover of staff is fanominal as people get taken on, get run ragged in reduced teams whilst the companies still expect fast turn around on the aircraft. Mrs has been dropping in on baggage handling to help out and regularly shows me 25,000-30,000 steps on her watch which is a nice warm up to the 200 odd bags they load and 200 odd they unload per flight. Luckily she's a robust old bird.
Latest news, the unions are working to get back 25% of the original pay cut to try and stop so many leaving.
It's pretty silly to think that people with high security clearance, covering approx 10-15 miles a shift, doing a seriously physical job whilst scurrying around under live jet engines can earn exactly £3.00 an hour less than the people pulling pints in Wetherspoons in the terminal.
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Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 14:45 - May 31 with 723 viewsBlueandTruesince82

It's almost as if it was a surprise to companies in the travel industry that after 2 years of not going anywhere people would want to go somewhere

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Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 15:06 - May 31 with 684 viewspointofblue

Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 13:01 - May 31 by SaleAway

yeah, but it ended last september, and as you'll know, air travel didn't recover ( still hasn't to pre-covid levels). Airports couldn't afford to keep all staff on, and they are now suffering from that.

Some silly people removed access to a large, flexible workforce too, which is making recruitment in many sectors really hard.


It looks like airports in the EU are struggling too, so can’t all be down to Brexit.

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Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 15:13 - May 31 with 675 viewsEireannach_gorm

Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 14:35 - May 31 by factual_blue

Clearly not Ireland; none of those queuing has a pig under their arm.





That's Sligo airport you're thinking of.

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Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 15:19 - May 31 with 662 viewsallezlesbleus

Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 15:06 - May 31 by pointofblue

It looks like airports in the EU are struggling too, so can’t all be down to Brexit.


Over here in France, numerous restaurants are only opening 3 or 4 days a week because they can't get staff. Hair salons, supermarkets, shops etc are also struggling for staff, with some shops in our area being forced to close for good.

Several of the local towns and villages also have big signs erected by the Mayor, stating that they need doctors and dentists.

Brexit probably hasn't helped the situation in the UK, but the EU is also struggling big time for staff too.
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Flight problems blamed on lack of staff on 17:42 - May 31 with 567 viewsGuthrum

Interesting interview with a Ground Handler on Radio 4 about half an hour ago, followed by speaking to other industry figures.

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