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Same old problem innit. I’ve no problem if their faith means they choose to not watch a film. It’s when their view affects the rest of us there’s a problem.
There's exactly the same amount of evidence for god as there is for the flying spaghetti monster. How long can humanity go on worshipping lies and deceptions? Restricting freedom of speech and artistic expression will only consolidate the misguided views of those who perpetuate these myths.
Are some Muslims and other religions just too sensitive? on 18:21 - Jun 8 by LegendofthePhoenix
There's exactly the same amount of evidence for god as there is for the flying spaghetti monster. How long can humanity go on worshipping lies and deceptions? Restricting freedom of speech and artistic expression will only consolidate the misguided views of those who perpetuate these myths.
Disgusting blasphemy and I’m shocked Phil let’s comments like this stand.
It’s absolutely criminal they’ve pulled the film IMO.
But doesn’t surprise me in the slightest that people bend over to give others what they want, the absolute mayhem it would have caused otherwise wouldn’t have made it worthwhile.
An angry mob, of about 50/70 men outside a cinema ffs, not a single policeman in sight either.
But give them some credit, theres a cost of living crisis at the moment and all these hard working individuals took time off work, missed out on money, to protest… 🤡
If there was a film about my god, David Johnson, and I didn’t agree with it, I just wouldn’t watch it
There is another element in this, that of sectarianism.
Sunni Islam, particularly the currently dominant Arabian strand, strictly forbids depictions of Mohammed and, to a lesser extent, his Companions (this extends in some traditions to not depicting humans at all, which is why a lot of Muslim art is geometric or calligraphic, rather than figurative). This was originaly intended to prevent idolatry, the worship of the Prophet rather than God.
Shia Islam takes a somewhat different view. Their saints are comemmorated at shrines and they have slightly looser views on depicting them in art.
This film is from a Shia perspective and the protestors are from Sunni organisations.
It's not only about the imagery issue, but also the hatred and rivalry between the two main branches of Islam.
Are some Muslims and other religions just too sensitive? on 18:53 - Jun 8 by Guthrum
There is another element in this, that of sectarianism.
Sunni Islam, particularly the currently dominant Arabian strand, strictly forbids depictions of Mohammed and, to a lesser extent, his Companions (this extends in some traditions to not depicting humans at all, which is why a lot of Muslim art is geometric or calligraphic, rather than figurative). This was originaly intended to prevent idolatry, the worship of the Prophet rather than God.
Shia Islam takes a somewhat different view. Their saints are comemmorated at shrines and they have slightly looser views on depicting them in art.
This film is from a Shia perspective and the protestors are from Sunni organisations.
It's not only about the imagery issue, but also the hatred and rivalry between the two main branches of Islam.
such a shame, they used to get on so well
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Are some Muslims and other religions just too sensitive? on 19:25 - Jun 8 with 2216 views
Probably none, but sure they can protest within the law.
If the cinema chain is worried about staff, and staff are getting threats, or being intimidated, then that is police matter. I think the police have even managed to arrest people who haven’t been intimidating or threatening anyone, but are part of a peaceful protest.
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Are some Muslims and other religions just too sensitive? on 20:20 - Jun 8 with 2086 views
There is a really serious sectarian element to this. I'm in a Facebook group for RE teachers and the arguments on there are genuinely biblical.
When this film came up it kicked off like anything.
The nuance and cultural aspects are quite hard to grasp when you look it at just from the point of view of what the Qur'an does or doesn't say. But because the film is a Shia narrative and they are basically a 1/5th of the Muslim world compared to the near 4/5ths Sunni you don't need much antagonism to attract a critical mass of extremists and people looking to win a fight etc.
Are some Muslims and other religions just too sensitive? on 18:53 - Jun 8 by Guthrum
There is another element in this, that of sectarianism.
Sunni Islam, particularly the currently dominant Arabian strand, strictly forbids depictions of Mohammed and, to a lesser extent, his Companions (this extends in some traditions to not depicting humans at all, which is why a lot of Muslim art is geometric or calligraphic, rather than figurative). This was originaly intended to prevent idolatry, the worship of the Prophet rather than God.
Shia Islam takes a somewhat different view. Their saints are comemmorated at shrines and they have slightly looser views on depicting them in art.
This film is from a Shia perspective and the protestors are from Sunni organisations.
It's not only about the imagery issue, but also the hatred and rivalry between the two main branches of Islam.
I think a lot of people are getting angry at the principle of Muslims getting a film pulled without actually even reading what and why they're mad.
I completely disagree with the film being pulled but as you and Mullet have mentioned, this is essentially sectarian arguements between Sunni and Shia Muslims.
Are some Muslims and other religions just too sensitive? on 18:53 - Jun 8 by Guthrum
There is another element in this, that of sectarianism.
Sunni Islam, particularly the currently dominant Arabian strand, strictly forbids depictions of Mohammed and, to a lesser extent, his Companions (this extends in some traditions to not depicting humans at all, which is why a lot of Muslim art is geometric or calligraphic, rather than figurative). This was originaly intended to prevent idolatry, the worship of the Prophet rather than God.
Shia Islam takes a somewhat different view. Their saints are comemmorated at shrines and they have slightly looser views on depicting them in art.
This film is from a Shia perspective and the protestors are from Sunni organisations.
It's not only about the imagery issue, but also the hatred and rivalry between the two main branches of Islam.
Are some Muslims and other religions just too sensitive? on 18:04 - Jun 8 by Illinoisblue
This is what happens when you let woke get a grip. It was bad enough when political correctness dominated.
Now God cannot even smote some city without the health and efficiency brigade calling for a ban. The days of raining down burning sulphur are long gone. As to nailing someone to a cross, can you imagine the uproar that would cause among the namby pamby, metropolitan liberal elites ?
We need to get back to a more interventionist God. One who is not frightened to throw down a few thunderbolts now, and again. That's the only language some of these wrongdoers understand - as well as Arabic and Hebrew, obviously.
Personally I blame that Jesus fellow, too soft by far. Since he turned up God has stopped smiting.
And as an aside. If Jesus is supposed to be Jewish, how come he has got a Mexican name ?
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Are some Muslims and other religions just too sensitive? on 21:00 - Jun 8 with 1904 views
Are some Muslims and other religions just too sensitive? on 20:53 - Jun 8 by HARRY10
This is what happens when you let woke get a grip. It was bad enough when political correctness dominated.
Now God cannot even smote some city without the health and efficiency brigade calling for a ban. The days of raining down burning sulphur are long gone. As to nailing someone to a cross, can you imagine the uproar that would cause among the namby pamby, metropolitan liberal elites ?
We need to get back to a more interventionist God. One who is not frightened to throw down a few thunderbolts now, and again. That's the only language some of these wrongdoers understand - as well as Arabic and Hebrew, obviously.
Personally I blame that Jesus fellow, too soft by far. Since he turned up God has stopped smiting.
And as an aside. If Jesus is supposed to be Jewish, how come he has got a Mexican name ?
Nothing to do with "woke".
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Are some Muslims and other religions just too sensitive? on 21:13 - Jun 8 with 1867 views
Are some Muslims and other religions just too sensitive? on 21:00 - Jun 8 by ZXBlue
Nothing to do with "woke".
Everything is to do with woke - you need to wise up.
Only the other day there was a story in the Mail of how woke is stopping shops from selling Black Magic chocolates - and white schoolchildren can no longer eat conkers.
They've already banned nativity plays at schools, teachers cannot carry pens in case children think they will be stabbed and doctors are forbidden from using the word patient, it is medical non binary user now.
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Are some Muslims and other religions just too sensitive? on 21:19 - Jun 8 with 1846 views
In the spirit of reconciliation and happiness at the end of the Banter Era (RIP) and as a result of promotion I have cleared out my ignore list. Look forwards to reading your posts!
Are some Muslims and other religions just too sensitive? on 18:04 - Jun 8 by Illinoisblue
A good piece that was. And what stands out from that (and other discussions on religious tolerance) is that the actual priests often have a good sense of humour over any challenge. It’s the swivel eyed nutters they attract that are the most fanatical and least tolerant. Thin skins, thin faith and thin intellects probably.
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