| Derby County - in simple terms 11:35 - Jun 13 with 4217 views | itfc_bucks |
Are we genuinely looking that they're likely to be ejected from the league?
Am I right in thinking that a Mike Ashley shaped swoop is pretty much the only game left in town for the club? |  | | |  |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 11:36 - Jun 13 with 3057 views | unbelievablue |
Good time to be a Forest fan, or would they rather Derby stayed afloat and competitive?
Edit - re: your question, I have no idea. [Post edited 13 Jun 2022 11:37]
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| Derby County - in simple terms on 11:37 - Jun 13 with 3026 views | hype313 |
It's Ashley or bust in reality.
But Morris still a roadblock with the stadium. |  |
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| Derby County - in simple terms on 11:41 - Jun 13 with 3007 views | itfc_bucks |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 11:37 - Jun 13 by hype313 |
It's Ashley or bust in reality.
But Morris still a roadblock with the stadium. |
Which is why were not a particularly attractive option to such speculators - we don't own the freehold on PR and we're unlikely to anytime soon.
Squeeky bum time for County then, I guess. | | | |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 11:44 - Jun 13 with 2982 views | JammyDodgerrr |
Can't ever see the stadium issue being sorted to be honest. I think it's game over for them, to be honest. |  |
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| Derby County - in simple terms on 11:52 - Jun 13 with 2899 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
It's certainly not looking good for them. Re-form in The National League North or something probably as Derby United |  |
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| Derby County - in simple terms on 11:56 - Jun 13 with 2840 views | tivo |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 11:52 - Jun 13 by Cheltenham_Blue |
It's certainly not looking good for them. Re-form in The National League North or something probably as Derby United |
Just call them Derbyshire :) Makes them sound posh to American Suitors | | | |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 11:57 - Jun 13 with 2829 views | itfcjoe |
No way they go bust, but longer it drags on the more likely they are to start the season with a youth team (and potentially a points deduction) |  |
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| Derby County - in simple terms on 11:58 - Jun 13 with 2800 views | wkj |
I doubt it, they have two more options. One of which could well pass the ownership test... somehow (Ashley) |  |
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| Derby County - in simple terms on 11:58 - Jun 13 with 2789 views | catch74 |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 11:57 - Jun 13 by itfcjoe |
No way they go bust, but longer it drags on the more likely they are to start the season with a youth team (and potentially a points deduction) |
And we get Lawrence!? (Is Waghorn still there too?) |  |
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| Derby County - in simple terms on 11:59 - Jun 13 with 2770 views | Wallingford_Boy |
I really hope not.
They will be fine, too big a club to simply vanish. |  |
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| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:00 - Jun 13 with 2755 views | wkj |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 11:58 - Jun 13 by catch74 |
And we get Lawrence!? (Is Waghorn still there too?) |
Waghorn went to Coventry I think. | |
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| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:05 - Jun 13 with 2718 views | hype313 |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:00 - Jun 13 by wkj |
Waghorn went to Coventry I think. |
Bit harsh. | |
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| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:19 - Jun 13 with 2556 views | wkj |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:05 - Jun 13 by hype313 |
Bit harsh. |
Im very thick today, please explain the joke as I don't want to get FOMO here | |
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| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:21 - Jun 13 with 2525 views | J2BLUE |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 11:57 - Jun 13 by itfcjoe |
No way they go bust, but longer it drags on the more likely they are to start the season with a youth team (and potentially a points deduction) |
Which would be fantastic for us.
Really hope they survive but a painful few seasons of battling relegation or even a slide into league two would be great. |  |
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| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:23 - Jun 13 with 2506 views | wkj |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:21 - Jun 13 by J2BLUE |
Which would be fantastic for us.
Really hope they survive but a painful few seasons of battling relegation or even a slide into league two would be great. |
At this point DCFC could well end up in exactly the same position in two seasons regardless of folding. Slide down into L2 because of sanctions and no players, or start again in the VNC as a new club and get promoted. | |
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| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:23 - Jun 13 with 2511 views | Churchman |
They will be fine. As a very important club (in the top 20 to 25, I’d have thought), Derby will be protected come what may. If there’s any tax impact I know from people who do such work that any arrangement will be accepted.
I don’t think Ashley is that bad an option. I know he was hated by Newcastle supporters, but they were in the PL at the time of the takeover, have good facilities and are now one of the richest clubs in the world. Interestingly, they seemed to have more of a problem with Ashley than they do the head choppers that now own them. Oh well. |  | | |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:25 - Jun 13 with 2476 views | wkj |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:23 - Jun 13 by Churchman |
They will be fine. As a very important club (in the top 20 to 25, I’d have thought), Derby will be protected come what may. If there’s any tax impact I know from people who do such work that any arrangement will be accepted.
I don’t think Ashley is that bad an option. I know he was hated by Newcastle supporters, but they were in the PL at the time of the takeover, have good facilities and are now one of the richest clubs in the world. Interestingly, they seemed to have more of a problem with Ashley than they do the head choppers that now own them. Oh well. |
It was all about taking back control for NUFC... or something. | |
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| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:27 - Jun 13 with 2448 views | HighgateBlue |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 11:41 - Jun 13 by itfc_bucks |
Which is why were not a particularly attractive option to such speculators - we don't own the freehold on PR and we're unlikely to anytime soon.
Squeeky bum time for County then, I guess. |
Yes, I think the Council owning the freehold actually protects us long term in a way that owning it ourselves would not. Our current owners may well be benign, but no club is immune to a takeover by an entity that relies too much on debt, and mortgaging the ground to the hilt potentially allows it to fall into the hands of the lenders. Having a lease means we have sufficient security of tenure under the Landlord and Tenant Act 1954 (unless the council wants to redevelop the ground, which they would be insane to want to try in a town the size of Ipswich where councillors could be ripped from office just by the ITFC fanbase), and if the club were ever to go under, it would seem likely that any new entity would end up with a new lease from the Council.
As for Derby, I don't think any of us really knows enough about their potential suitors, but if those options are exhausted, then it is looking exceptionally bleak for them. They are so big that failing would have terrible consequences, but that doesn't mean it can't happen. Some might argue that a wake up call is necessary, but I prefer to try to put myself in their fans' position. In any event, Derby going bust ain't gonna stop top six prem teams throwing around billions. |  | | |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:28 - Jun 13 with 2432 views | J2BLUE |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:23 - Jun 13 by wkj |
At this point DCFC could well end up in exactly the same position in two seasons regardless of folding. Slide down into L2 because of sanctions and no players, or start again in the VNC as a new club and get promoted. |
Surely any fan would want their original club to survive based on that? | |
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| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:43 - Jun 13 with 2334 views | Churchman |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:25 - Jun 13 by wkj |
It was all about taking back control for NUFC... or something. |
That phrase sounds familiar…….. | | | |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:46 - Jun 13 with 2313 views | BlueyandCrazy |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:28 - Jun 13 by J2BLUE |
Surely any fan would want their original club to survive based on that? |
It could be viewed as the original club either way, just a new company - trading as Derby Co still.
Take the example of Rangers, technically a new club now following admin and relegation, but their fans don't see it that way. | |
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| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:47 - Jun 13 with 2300 views | J2BLUE |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:46 - Jun 13 by BlueyandCrazy |
It could be viewed as the original club either way, just a new company - trading as Derby Co still.
Take the example of Rangers, technically a new club now following admin and relegation, but their fans don't see it that way. |
Agreed but they get plenty of stick from other fans for it so if a team is going to end up in the same place it might as well be the original club. | |
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| Derby County - in simple terms on 13:14 - Jun 13 with 2087 views | wkj |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 12:47 - Jun 13 by J2BLUE |
Agreed but they get plenty of stick from other fans for it so if a team is going to end up in the same place it might as well be the original club. |
Getting stick is part and parcel of supporting a club. I really don't think it would matter once parity is restored. | |
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| Derby County - in simple terms on 13:42 - Jun 13 with 1937 views | Radlett_blue |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 11:44 - Jun 13 by JammyDodgerrr |
Can't ever see the stadium issue being sorted to be honest. I think it's game over for them, to be honest. |
Morris seems to be playing dog in the manger with the ground, rather like Ken Booth did with Millmoor. Rotherham used a different stadium for a few years before their new stadium was ready. Something similar could happen here. |  |
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| Derby County - in simple terms on 13:49 - Jun 13 with 1884 views | WeWereZombies |
| Derby County - in simple terms on 11:56 - Jun 13 by tivo |
Just call them Derbyshire :) Makes them sound posh to American Suitors |
Pat Jennings as Director of Football? |  |
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