| Bersant Celina 15:06 - Jun 15 with 3751 views | clive_baker |
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| Bersant Celina on 15:14 - Jun 15 with 3234 views | Kieran_Knows |
Back with us, hopefully. |  |
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| Bersant Celina on 15:43 - Jun 15 with 3156 views | BiGDonnie |
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| Bersant Celina on 18:24 - Jun 15 with 2996 views | ITFC_Josh |
Andy warren suggested we might be looking at other targets so might not be here |  | | |
| Bersant Celina on 18:34 - Jun 15 with 2973 views | jayessess |
| Bersant Celina on 18:24 - Jun 15 by ITFC_Josh |
Andy warren suggested we might be looking at other targets so might not be here |
If Celina's there to be got strikes me as a pretty high risk strategy to be looking elsewhere. The pool of better attacking midfielders that are realistically in our range can't be that big... |  |
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| Bersant Celina on 18:45 - Jun 15 with 2955 views | PhilTWTD |
I know Preston had shown strong interest and at the time we hadn't offered anything, although still retain an interest. Definitely other people under consideration and we're in no hurry, seeing who might be available for us, as in whether players expected to join Championship clubs might not make those moves. |  | | |
| Bersant Celina on 18:51 - Jun 15 with 2906 views | OwainG1992 |
| Bersant Celina on 18:45 - Jun 15 by PhilTWTD |
I know Preston had shown strong interest and at the time we hadn't offered anything, although still retain an interest. Definitely other people under consideration and we're in no hurry, seeing who might be available for us, as in whether players expected to join Championship clubs might not make those moves. |
Cheers for the update on this Phil.
Celina is a big talent who clearly loves this club.
That being said I wouldn't be upset if we went down a different route.
Just feel we could do with more consistency. |  |
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| Bersant Celina on 19:06 - Jun 15 with 2838 views | jayessess |
| Bersant Celina on 18:51 - Jun 15 by OwainG1992 |
Cheers for the update on this Phil.
Celina is a big talent who clearly loves this club.
That being said I wouldn't be upset if we went down a different route.
Just feel we could do with more consistency. |
I think we're going to find it incredibly difficult to get a new attacking midfielder we can be confident will contribute more consistently than Celina.
Celina notched a goal or an assist every 177 minutes. There's only a very small handful of attacking midfielders beating him on that last season and I suspect if you take out set pieces it drops to near enough 0. [Post edited 15 Jun 2022 20:00]
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| Bersant Celina on 21:52 - Jun 15 with 2562 views | chicoazul |
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| Bersant Celina on 22:42 - Jun 15 with 2465 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Bersant Celina on 19:06 - Jun 15 by jayessess |
I think we're going to find it incredibly difficult to get a new attacking midfielder we can be confident will contribute more consistently than Celina.
Celina notched a goal or an assist every 177 minutes. There's only a very small handful of attacking midfielders beating him on that last season and I suspect if you take out set pieces it drops to near enough 0. [Post edited 15 Jun 2022 20:00]
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Thank you.. Im not sure where this-pint about Celina being inconsistent have come from. Without him in the team, we looked much worse. |  |
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| Bersant Celina on 22:51 - Jun 15 with 2448 views | StokieBlue |
| Bersant Celina on 22:42 - Jun 15 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Thank you.. Im not sure where this-pint about Celina being inconsistent have come from. Without him in the team, we looked much worse. |
It's a pre-determined narrative which many had when he joined. Unless he's involved every minute of every match, scoring and assisting then he's not in the game enough.
It's then wilfully ignored that he puts lots of chances on a plate for others who then miss them and thus people point to his stats (which are still good anyway) whilst ignoring the greater context which is that he can't actually control all of his own assist stats.
If we can get him, we clearly should. If we have a quality forward he will provide the chances.
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| Bersant Celina on 23:01 - Jun 15 with 2397 views | jayessess |
| Bersant Celina on 22:42 - Jun 15 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Thank you.. Im not sure where this-pint about Celina being inconsistent have come from. Without him in the team, we looked much worse. |
Realistically Celina the nearest thing to a dead cert we could sign in that position. Lot of talk about Morgan Rogers, for instance, but his only season at this level was less productive than Celina last year (despite playing in a better team). Bannan's put forward as the best AM in the division but again, his goal contributions were less regular than Santi's. Also, every reason to imagine with a good pre-season, consistent fitness and a better drilled collective around him, he'll find a higher level still.
We might find someone just as good or better, who fits McKenna's plan more, but amidst competition from Championship clubs it's going to be very tough. | |
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| Bersant Celina on 23:19 - Jun 15 with 2335 views | eireblue |
Midfield, high up the field and very much in an attacking role, that would be my guess. |  | | |
| Bersant Celina on 00:05 - Jun 16 with 2245 views | BigCommon |
I hope he's here....I drew a line under Cook's reign, and judged players on what they did under McKenna... Cellina's fitness coupled with Cooks "way", imo, hampered his consistency a little in the first half of the season. He looked like he was being asked to do a lot more chasing about.. I think, once KM settled the side down and gave Bersant a clear role in that inside left pocket, plus , him, getting somewhere near full fitness. He was much more consistent.. Our left hand side in general, was less consistent than our right hand side. Had we had a solid LWB for Bersant to build a partnership with, and some more clinical finishing from the forwards. Then Bersants stats would be far more impressive, imo... Fingers crossed we see him again , this season.. |  | | |
| Bersant Celina on 06:30 - Jun 16 with 2043 views | Chrisd |
| Bersant Celina on 18:45 - Jun 15 by PhilTWTD |
I know Preston had shown strong interest and at the time we hadn't offered anything, although still retain an interest. Definitely other people under consideration and we're in no hurry, seeing who might be available for us, as in whether players expected to join Championship clubs might not make those moves. |
I think that speaks volumes. If KM was particularly interested then he’d make sure Celina was a top priority this summer. The fact we seem to be considering other options and in no great rush, appears to suggest that KM isn’t 100% convinced. [Post edited 16 Jun 2022 7:05]
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| Bersant Celina on 07:25 - Jun 16 with 1921 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Bersant Celina on 06:30 - Jun 16 by Chrisd |
I think that speaks volumes. If KM was particularly interested then he’d make sure Celina was a top priority this summer. The fact we seem to be considering other options and in no great rush, appears to suggest that KM isn’t 100% convinced. [Post edited 16 Jun 2022 7:05]
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If KM Is looking at alternatives. Does that mean he has a pre determined narrative when it comes to Celina? |  |
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| Bersant Celina on 07:50 - Jun 16 with 1878 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Bersant Celina on 06:30 - Jun 16 by Chrisd |
I think that speaks volumes. If KM was particularly interested then he’d make sure Celina was a top priority this summer. The fact we seem to be considering other options and in no great rush, appears to suggest that KM isn’t 100% convinced. [Post edited 16 Jun 2022 7:05]
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I think this is a little unfair on McK. Dijon paid £4m for Celina and he's out of contract next summer. It's entirely reasonable that they will want to recoup some of their fee, meaning Celina is likely to be the most expensive option available.
Makes perfect sense that the money guys would want McK to explore other options first, its not out of the question that Celina is indeed McK's no1 choice, but he's going through the motions first.
I'm sure, if there is a bid for Celina, we'd be in there too. |  |
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| Bersant Celina on 07:56 - Jun 16 with 1852 views | StokieBlue |
| Bersant Celina on 07:25 - Jun 16 by FrimleyBlue |
If KM Is looking at alternatives. Does that mean he has a pre determined narrative when it comes to Celina? |
Certainly not as predetermined as someone who would call a new manager "smarmy" after 45 seconds of their first press conference.
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| Bersant Celina on 07:59 - Jun 16 with 1835 views | StokieBlue |
| Bersant Celina on 06:30 - Jun 16 by Chrisd |
I think that speaks volumes. If KM was particularly interested then he’d make sure Celina was a top priority this summer. The fact we seem to be considering other options and in no great rush, appears to suggest that KM isn’t 100% convinced. [Post edited 16 Jun 2022 7:05]
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It speaks volumes that a manager sensibly assesses all the options available to them?
We have no idea on the Celina situation, perhaps Dijon are only willing to sell and not loan? Perhaps we will consider buying but depends how much a quality striker costs and thus we can't make any moves until after that position is secured?
These things aren't assessed as atomic events, they will all be correlated.
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| Bersant Celina on 08:08 - Jun 16 with 1789 views | Dyland |
At the mighty ITFC you big womble :)
If he's not here it will be because someone has made a better offer, and good luck to him. |  |
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| Bersant Celina on 08:31 - Jun 16 with 1710 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Bersant Celina on 07:56 - Jun 16 by StokieBlue |
Certainly not as predetermined as someone who would call a new manager "smarmy" after 45 seconds of their first press conference.
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| Bersant Celina on 08:34 - Jun 16 with 1699 views | BiGDonnie |
| Bersant Celina on 07:25 - Jun 16 by FrimleyBlue |
If KM Is looking at alternatives. Does that mean he has a pre determined narrative when it comes to Celina? |
LOL - look at you trying to string together proper sentences! | |
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| Bersant Celina on 08:36 - Jun 16 with 1673 views | BiGDonnie |
| Bersant Celina on 08:31 - Jun 16 by FrimleyBlue |
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| Bersant Celina on 08:37 - Jun 16 with 1662 views | Chrisd |
| Bersant Celina on 07:59 - Jun 16 by StokieBlue |
It speaks volumes that a manager sensibly assesses all the options available to them?
We have no idea on the Celina situation, perhaps Dijon are only willing to sell and not loan? Perhaps we will consider buying but depends how much a quality striker costs and thus we can't make any moves until after that position is secured?
These things aren't assessed as atomic events, they will all be correlated.
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It also suggests that it doesn’t mean that he’s an automatic choice which is suggested on here. If he was a prime target - loan or permanent - you’d be wanting to get that deal done asap before another club steps in. [Post edited 16 Jun 2022 8:40]
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| Bersant Celina on 08:42 - Jun 16 with 1642 views | BiGDonnie |
| Bersant Celina on 08:37 - Jun 16 by Chrisd |
It also suggests that it doesn’t mean that he’s an automatic choice which is suggested on here. If he was a prime target - loan or permanent - you’d be wanting to get that deal done asap before another club steps in. [Post edited 16 Jun 2022 8:40]
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| Bersant Celina on 08:43 - Jun 16 with 1624 views | Parky |
| Bersant Celina on 18:45 - Jun 15 by PhilTWTD |
I know Preston had shown strong interest and at the time we hadn't offered anything, although still retain an interest. Definitely other people under consideration and we're in no hurry, seeing who might be available for us, as in whether players expected to join Championship clubs might not make those moves. |
Bradley Dack one of the other ones under consideration? | | | |
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