| Cauley Woodrow 17:11 - Jun 21 with 2819 views | Fixed_It |
Signed for Luton. |  |
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| Cauley Woodrow on 17:26 - Jun 21 with 2530 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Good for him. We clearly weren't interested after all. [Post edited 21 Jun 2022 17:27]
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| Cauley Woodrow on 17:37 - Jun 21 with 2460 views | OwainG1992 |
Top 6 championship team.
Yet many didn't feel he was good enough for Ipswich.
Funny old sport. |  |
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| Cauley Woodrow on 17:43 - Jun 21 with 2426 views | ITFC_Jenx |
| Cauley Woodrow on 17:37 - Jun 21 by OwainG1992 |
Top 6 championship team.
Yet many didn't feel he was good enough for Ipswich.
Funny old sport. |
Very good player but much better at dropping deep and linking play rather than leading the line and getting in behind.
Good enough but not what we needed. |  | | |
| Cauley Woodrow on 19:26 - Jun 21 with 2157 views | Bobsthename |
Would of been decent for us looks like playing championship football is the draw not league one i’m worried we can’t attract a 25 plus goal scorer i’m sure he could of delivered. |  | | |
| Cauley Woodrow on 20:04 - Jun 21 with 2058 views | OwainG1992 |
| Cauley Woodrow on 19:26 - Jun 21 by Bobsthename |
Would of been decent for us looks like playing championship football is the draw not league one i’m worried we can’t attract a 25 plus goal scorer i’m sure he could of delivered. |
Very classy footballer.
Good on the ball skillfull. | |
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| Cauley Woodrow on 20:11 - Jun 21 with 2039 views | TomTheWriter |
Good for them.
Woodrow doesn't fit. He's a big man who likes the ball to feet, and wants runners in behind. Are Aluko and Chaplin suddenly going to start burning past defenders?
Under McKenna, we are trying to sign players that fit the style. MK Dons signed Darling from L2, Twine from relegated Swindon. They worked because they fit.
Someone like Woodrow would have been a poorer player for us than someone like Harry McKirdy. Why? Because Woodrow is as slow as Pigott and will drop as deep as Celina did last season. As evidenced, that kind of striker failed. McKirdy sat on the last shoulder for Swindon, and scored handfuls. That kind of striker thrives in this style.
There's a reason McKenna kept Jackson. He is his ideal striker (type, not leading man). Fast, direct, drifts wide to create openings in behind. We don't need a Woodrow to drop deep and hold the ball when Aluko/Celina/Chaplin are already in that pocket of space waiting for it. |  |
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| Cauley Woodrow on 20:17 - Jun 21 with 2010 views | itfcjoe |
| Cauley Woodrow on 20:11 - Jun 21 by TomTheWriter |
Good for them.
Woodrow doesn't fit. He's a big man who likes the ball to feet, and wants runners in behind. Are Aluko and Chaplin suddenly going to start burning past defenders?
Under McKenna, we are trying to sign players that fit the style. MK Dons signed Darling from L2, Twine from relegated Swindon. They worked because they fit.
Someone like Woodrow would have been a poorer player for us than someone like Harry McKirdy. Why? Because Woodrow is as slow as Pigott and will drop as deep as Celina did last season. As evidenced, that kind of striker failed. McKirdy sat on the last shoulder for Swindon, and scored handfuls. That kind of striker thrives in this style.
There's a reason McKenna kept Jackson. He is his ideal striker (type, not leading man). Fast, direct, drifts wide to create openings in behind. We don't need a Woodrow to drop deep and hold the ball when Aluko/Celina/Chaplin are already in that pocket of space waiting for it. |
Woodrow is much more athletic than Pigott, he was a key man in Ismael’s Barnsley side which were the most high pressing team in basically the history of football.
And for all talk of McKenna recruiting to a plan, we were in for Woodrow so he obviously thought he’d have been a good fit |  |
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| Cauley Woodrow on 20:30 - Jun 21 with 1951 views | joey_itfc |
| Cauley Woodrow on 20:17 - Jun 21 by itfcjoe |
Woodrow is much more athletic than Pigott, he was a key man in Ismael’s Barnsley side which were the most high pressing team in basically the history of football.
And for all talk of McKenna recruiting to a plan, we were in for Woodrow so he obviously thought he’d have been a good fit |
Any idea what strikers are on the list Joe? | | | |
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| Cauley Woodrow on 20:41 - Jun 21 with 1889 views | Mullet |
| Cauley Woodrow on 20:17 - Jun 21 by itfcjoe |
Woodrow is much more athletic than Pigott, he was a key man in Ismael’s Barnsley side which were the most high pressing team in basically the history of football.
And for all talk of McKenna recruiting to a plan, we were in for Woodrow so he obviously thought he’d have been a good fit |
Yep, I'd have been chuffed with him. |  |
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| Cauley Woodrow on 21:05 - Jun 21 with 1837 views | TomTheWriter |
| Cauley Woodrow on 20:17 - Jun 21 by itfcjoe |
Woodrow is much more athletic than Pigott, he was a key man in Ismael’s Barnsley side which were the most high pressing team in basically the history of football.
And for all talk of McKenna recruiting to a plan, we were in for Woodrow so he obviously thought he’d have been a good fit |
The fact that Barnsley fans are seemingly glad to see him go tells part of the story.
As I've said, Woodrow is not a bad player. He is a very good player for a side that play a 4-2-3-1 with wingers and full-backs getting in behind. That Barnsley team that got in the play-offs had Woodrow up top with Morris, Adeboyejo, Brittain, Styles, Dike getting in behind. Our side relied on Wes Burns and that was it.
We all talk about Celina's lack of goal contributions because of the poor attackers ahead of him. He'd have a field day with the amount of through balls wasted if Woodrow was up top because he'd be stood next to him - that's his game in possession.
I think that if we lose Pigott, then maybe we will recruit someone of his ilk with more mobility, but likely to be a young Prem loan that can be trained by McKenna.
I'd be shocked if McKenna recruited a ball-to-feet striker, because our style works because our midfielders want the ball to feet. Adding one more would be overkill, and would make us so slow in the build up.
Ideally, I'd like to see us start with the 3-4-3 with Ball, Morsy and Chaplin getting on the ball, and then the LWB, Burns, other CAM and striker all on the line waiting to make the run. | |
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| Cauley Woodrow on 21:08 - Jun 21 with 1810 views | gtsb1966 |
| Cauley Woodrow on 20:30 - Jun 21 by joey_itfc |
Any idea what strikers are on the list Joe? |
Can never understand why people ask these questions. People have left ITFC who leaked info. Ipswich is a far more professional business now. |  | | |
| Cauley Woodrow on 21:21 - Jun 21 with 1752 views | itfcjoe |
| Cauley Woodrow on 21:05 - Jun 21 by TomTheWriter |
The fact that Barnsley fans are seemingly glad to see him go tells part of the story.
As I've said, Woodrow is not a bad player. He is a very good player for a side that play a 4-2-3-1 with wingers and full-backs getting in behind. That Barnsley team that got in the play-offs had Woodrow up top with Morris, Adeboyejo, Brittain, Styles, Dike getting in behind. Our side relied on Wes Burns and that was it.
We all talk about Celina's lack of goal contributions because of the poor attackers ahead of him. He'd have a field day with the amount of through balls wasted if Woodrow was up top because he'd be stood next to him - that's his game in possession.
I think that if we lose Pigott, then maybe we will recruit someone of his ilk with more mobility, but likely to be a young Prem loan that can be trained by McKenna.
I'd be shocked if McKenna recruited a ball-to-feet striker, because our style works because our midfielders want the ball to feet. Adding one more would be overkill, and would make us so slow in the build up.
Ideally, I'd like to see us start with the 3-4-3 with Ball, Morsy and Chaplin getting on the ball, and then the LWB, Burns, other CAM and striker all on the line waiting to make the run. |
Barnsley played 433 and Woodrow wasn’t playing a deep role in that under Ismael, he might have dropped deeper under the manager last season but he’s capable of playing higher and has done.
He’s a cut above Joe Pigott and there’s a reason why a Championship side who have recruited so well they’ve got into the top 6 on a tiny budget has gone for him. If we’d have got him here he’d have been a cracking signing - good players trump systems | |
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| Cauley Woodrow on 21:23 - Jun 21 with 1734 views | itfcjoe |
| Cauley Woodrow on 20:30 - Jun 21 by joey_itfc |
Any idea what strikers are on the list Joe? |
Phil has reported Woodrow and then George Hirst as well so safe to assume they are as he won’t put his name on stories like that without very solid info [Post edited 21 Jun 2022 21:52]
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| Cauley Woodrow on 21:39 - Jun 21 with 1649 views | Big_Jase |
| Cauley Woodrow on 21:23 - Jun 21 by itfcjoe |
Phil has reported Woodrow and then George Hirst as well so safe to assume they are as he won’t put his name on stories like that without very solid info [Post edited 21 Jun 2022 21:52]
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But Tom thinks he knows everything about our recruitment because he makes a few pretty graphs on twitter so you couldn’t possibly be right there Joe. |  |
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| Cauley Woodrow on 21:49 - Jun 21 with 1618 views | PhilTWTD |
| Cauley Woodrow on 21:23 - Jun 21 by itfcjoe |
Phil has reported Woodrow and then George Hirst as well so safe to assume they are as he won’t put his name on stories like that without very solid info [Post edited 21 Jun 2022 21:52]
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They were both my stories! On the list was how they were described to me. As per the thread above, I think those targeted will have had different attributes, which ones are brought in to some extent relating to who else is signed. I know they're keen to add pace and Ladapo is someone who can run in behind.
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| ITK Legend, innit. (n/t) on 21:51 - Jun 21 with 1598 views | Bloots |
| Cauley Woodrow on 21:49 - Jun 21 by PhilTWTD |
They were both my stories! On the list was how they were described to me. As per the thread above, I think those targeted will have had different attributes, which ones are brought in to some extent relating to who else is signed. I know they're keen to add pace and Ladapo is someone who can run in behind.
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| Cauley Woodrow on 21:53 - Jun 21 with 1581 views | itfcjoe |
| Cauley Woodrow on 21:49 - Jun 21 by PhilTWTD |
They were both my stories! On the list was how they were described to me. As per the thread above, I think those targeted will have had different attributes, which ones are brought in to some extent relating to who else is signed. I know they're keen to add pace and Ladapo is someone who can run in behind.
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Sorry Phil, have edited - I thought you had said Jack Taylor and they the strikers - apologies!
Think Sheff Weds were in for Woodrow as well | |
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| Cauley Woodrow on 21:56 - Jun 21 with 1545 views | PhilTWTD |
| Cauley Woodrow on 21:53 - Jun 21 by itfcjoe |
Sorry Phil, have edited - I thought you had said Jack Taylor and they the strikers - apologies!
Think Sheff Weds were in for Woodrow as well |
No problem, Taylor wasn't me, as you say. That makes sense, I suspect we'll be shopping in similar markets. | | | |
| ITK Legend, innit. (n/t) on 21:57 - Jun 21 with 1518 views | PhilTWTD |
| ITK Legend, innit. (n/t) on 21:51 - Jun 21 by Bloots |
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I'll get that tattooed on my forehead. | | | |
| Cauley Woodrow on 22:00 - Jun 21 with 1483 views | TomTheWriter |
| Cauley Woodrow on 21:21 - Jun 21 by itfcjoe |
Barnsley played 433 and Woodrow wasn’t playing a deep role in that under Ismael, he might have dropped deeper under the manager last season but he’s capable of playing higher and has done.
He’s a cut above Joe Pigott and there’s a reason why a Championship side who have recruited so well they’ve got into the top 6 on a tiny budget has gone for him. If we’d have got him here he’d have been a cracking signing - good players trump systems |
I've said all along that he is a good player. Woodrow might dominate at Luton because he'll have Adebayo, Cornick, Jordan Clark making the runs of him. From the looks of it they played 3-5-2 all season, so he'll be dropping in and receiving the ball to allow Adebayo to break in behind. That is where he is most dangerous.
He is a cut above Pigott. Said that as well. If Pigott was our number one striker, then Woodrow would have been top of the Wishlist. We can't change the fact that McKenna clearly favours a direct, progressive attacker who drifts wide and plays on the last shoulder. He had the choice between an out-of-contract, injury prone James Norwood or a three-year, fully fit striker in Joe Pigott, and he went with the latter.
Woodrow will go on and score a handful for Luton, because they don't play progressive, possession football with the emphasis on getting our midfielders or the ball and our attackers forcing the defence to face their own goal. | |
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| Cauley Woodrow on 22:04 - Jun 21 with 1441 views | TomTheWriter |
| Cauley Woodrow on 21:23 - Jun 21 by itfcjoe |
Phil has reported Woodrow and then George Hirst as well so safe to assume they are as he won’t put his name on stories like that without very solid info [Post edited 21 Jun 2022 21:52]
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George Hirst is a very good shout. Watched a lot of his clips back for the recruitment piece. Likes to drop deep, but instead of passing the ball on, he turns and runs at the defenders. One of those 'gets bums of seats' type striker. That's something we need more of, runners with the ball.
Do wonder how important Edwards could be if he stays fully fit in pre-season, and has McKenna teaching him for a prolonged period of time. We need someone high up the field to get on the ball more and run at the full-back/wide centre back instead of Burns doing it all. Maybe the LW spot in a 3-4-3 could be in the offing for him, if he works on his end product!! | |
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| Cauley Woodrow on 22:09 - Jun 21 with 1399 views | itfcjoe |
| Cauley Woodrow on 22:00 - Jun 21 by TomTheWriter |
I've said all along that he is a good player. Woodrow might dominate at Luton because he'll have Adebayo, Cornick, Jordan Clark making the runs of him. From the looks of it they played 3-5-2 all season, so he'll be dropping in and receiving the ball to allow Adebayo to break in behind. That is where he is most dangerous.
He is a cut above Pigott. Said that as well. If Pigott was our number one striker, then Woodrow would have been top of the Wishlist. We can't change the fact that McKenna clearly favours a direct, progressive attacker who drifts wide and plays on the last shoulder. He had the choice between an out-of-contract, injury prone James Norwood or a three-year, fully fit striker in Joe Pigott, and he went with the latter.
Woodrow will go on and score a handful for Luton, because they don't play progressive, possession football with the emphasis on getting our midfielders or the ball and our attackers forcing the defence to face their own goal. |
I think it’s too early to say exactly what McKenna wants, there were games like Burton at home where we played Pigott and Jackson and used JP as a pivot to play off to let KJ go in behind.
And realistically he stopped picking Pigott because he was woefully out of form, if he was playing well he’d have no doubt played more | |
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| Cauley Woodrow on 22:25 - Jun 21 with 1284 views | TomTheWriter |
| Cauley Woodrow on 22:09 - Jun 21 by itfcjoe |
I think it’s too early to say exactly what McKenna wants, there were games like Burton at home where we played Pigott and Jackson and used JP as a pivot to play off to let KJ go in behind.
And realistically he stopped picking Pigott because he was woefully out of form, if he was playing well he’d have no doubt played more |
I do feel like Pigott's downfall was from a mixture of circumstances - the biggest factor being the form of Macauley Bonne. Pigott in a 4-2-3-1 was very impressive for Wimbledon, and he showed glimpses early on in the season. 'Goal' against Burton, penalty against Wimbledon.
I think it was Bonne's all action performance against MK Dons that sealed Pigott's spot behind MB, and then eventually behind Pigott. Cook's constant rotation didn't help either. JP started 2 games in a row once all season, and that was Game 1 and Game 2. | |
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| Cauley Woodrow on 09:10 - Jun 22 with 817 views | itfcjoe |
| Cauley Woodrow on 22:25 - Jun 21 by TomTheWriter |
I do feel like Pigott's downfall was from a mixture of circumstances - the biggest factor being the form of Macauley Bonne. Pigott in a 4-2-3-1 was very impressive for Wimbledon, and he showed glimpses early on in the season. 'Goal' against Burton, penalty against Wimbledon.
I think it was Bonne's all action performance against MK Dons that sealed Pigott's spot behind MB, and then eventually behind Pigott. Cook's constant rotation didn't help either. JP started 2 games in a row once all season, and that was Game 1 and Game 2. |
Bonne justs cored a lot of goals and only room for one of them - by the time Bonne stopped scoring Pigott looked totally shot confidence wise - in reality he didn't score a single open play goal all season, or have an assist bar a Pizza Cup game against Gillingham reserves | |
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| Cauley Woodrow on 09:15 - Jun 22 with 804 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Cauley Woodrow on 21:08 - Jun 21 by gtsb1966 |
Can never understand why people ask these questions. People have left ITFC who leaked info. Ipswich is a far more professional business now. |
'People have left ITFC who leaked info' ... clearly not true as how would the likes of Phil and Stu Watson get their news?! (yes, I appreciate sometimes it comes direct from players/agents) |  |
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