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PMQs 14:30 - Jun 22 with 1595 viewsThisIsMyUsername

Is this current so-called government the most incompetent and corrupt (not to mention generally bigoted and xenophobic) in British history?

Relatively speaking, exactly how bad are they?

Genuinely interested in knowing if we are in 'peak' times, or if there was ever worse.

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PMQs on 14:46 - Jun 22 with 1077 viewsgiant_ullaa

Worse would be them getting another term to create more of their mayhem laced with incompetence. This is why I can't understand the left wing of the labour party being more interested in attacking Starmer.

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PMQs on 14:49 - Jun 22 with 1057 viewsBlueNomad

Certainly the worst since before WW1. I think their medacity, promise breaking, (alleged) corruption, law breaking, rule bending, cronyist, unempathic, constitution ignoring, populist, human rights ignoring practices mark them without parallel.

Edit - I'll throw in some deflecting and dog whistling too.

I'm sure I'll think of more.
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PMQs on 15:00 - Jun 22 with 1029 viewsSomethingBlue

Worst in the history of this country, comfortably – both in competence and intent. And capable of becoming far worse than that, unless people wake up very very quickly.

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PMQs on 15:08 - Jun 22 with 984 viewsBlueNomad

PMQs on 14:49 - Jun 22 by BlueNomad

Certainly the worst since before WW1. I think their medacity, promise breaking, (alleged) corruption, law breaking, rule bending, cronyist, unempathic, constitution ignoring, populist, human rights ignoring practices mark them without parallel.

Edit - I'll throw in some deflecting and dog whistling too.

I'm sure I'll think of more.
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Oh - and they've got Tom Hunt cheering them on
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PMQs on 15:28 - Jun 22 with 957 viewsDarth_Koont

PMQs on 15:00 - Jun 22 by SomethingBlue

Worst in the history of this country, comfortably – both in competence and intent. And capable of becoming far worse than that, unless people wake up very very quickly.


Agreed.

Although I’d add that we need to wake up to the competence and intent of the current opposition at the same time. There’s no point in replacing one set of undemocratic, unprincipled liars not fit for government with another.

The major politicians have never been as rubbish, self-serving and utterly unaccountable as they are now. Mainly because nobody is holding them to account in any meaningful and consistent way ... in fact most pundits and too many of the public are happy to look the other way as part of serving their own real but also perceived interests.

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PMQs on 15:32 - Jun 22 with 936 viewsDarth_Koont

PMQs on 14:46 - Jun 22 by giant_ullaa

Worse would be them getting another term to create more of their mayhem laced with incompetence. This is why I can't understand the left wing of the labour party being more interested in attacking Starmer.


See above.

I have zero problem demanding an awful lot better from both of our major parties and our only de facto alternatives at Westminster.

Johnson’s Tories and Starmer’s Labour are both low-water marks. And both are dangerous for the country given the actual needs of the country in 2022 they will blithely ignore.

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PMQs on 15:37 - Jun 22 with 908 viewsunbelievablue

PMQs on 15:28 - Jun 22 by Darth_Koont

Agreed.

Although I’d add that we need to wake up to the competence and intent of the current opposition at the same time. There’s no point in replacing one set of undemocratic, unprincipled liars not fit for government with another.

The major politicians have never been as rubbish, self-serving and utterly unaccountable as they are now. Mainly because nobody is holding them to account in any meaningful and consistent way ... in fact most pundits and too many of the public are happy to look the other way as part of serving their own real but also perceived interests.


"There’s no point in replacing one set of undemocratic, unprincipled liars not fit for government with another."

Although I agree with the sentiment, there absolutely is a point. One set is objectively better for the country than the other.

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PMQs on 15:38 - Jun 22 with 893 viewsDarth_Koont

PMQs on 15:37 - Jun 22 by unbelievablue

"There’s no point in replacing one set of undemocratic, unprincipled liars not fit for government with another."

Although I agree with the sentiment, there absolutely is a point. One set is objectively better for the country than the other.


I’d make that assessment on polling day. Not now.

Objectively both need to be much better in the here and now.

Not least, because “objectively better” for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland doesn’t look like it involves either of these two rubbish choices. Probably something completely different if it carries on like this.
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PMQs on 15:38 - Jun 22 with 887 viewsGlasgowBlue

Worst in my lifetime.

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PMQs on 15:46 - Jun 22 with 866 viewsunbelievablue

PMQs on 15:38 - Jun 22 by Darth_Koont

I’d make that assessment on polling day. Not now.

Objectively both need to be much better in the here and now.

Not least, because “objectively better” for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland doesn’t look like it involves either of these two rubbish choices. Probably something completely different if it carries on like this.
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Yeah I guess I am being England (London) centric.

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PMQs on 16:07 - Jun 22 with 830 viewsDarth_Koont

PMQs on 15:46 - Jun 22 by unbelievablue

Yeah I guess I am being England (London) centric.


No, that’s England as a whole. If I was in the North East with a lot of the similar problems and challenges facing the other home nations then it might well have to be the lesser of two evils all the time.

But I’d add that political movements outside the Tory/Labour duopoly have managed to shape our debate and help pull the big parties in a different direction. The whole UKIP/Brexit thing for example — even though that was for evil.

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PMQs on 16:12 - Jun 22 with 811 viewsjeera

DaveU strikes again.

The silent down-arrower.

Some reasoning would be nice, a few positives he can see the rest of us cannot.

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PMQs on 16:55 - Jun 22 with 737 viewsSwansea_Blue

PMQs on 16:12 - Jun 22 by jeera

DaveU strikes again.

The silent down-arrower.

Some reasoning would be nice, a few positives he can see the rest of us cannot.


Surprised Phil puts up with the patheticness of it. Certainly adds nothing to the forum and just seems to want to wind people up (as we've no way of knowing otherwise), whether it's real or a 'comedy' creation.

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PMQs on 16:57 - Jun 22 with 710 viewsjeera

PMQs on 16:55 - Jun 22 by Swansea_Blue

Surprised Phil puts up with the patheticness of it. Certainly adds nothing to the forum and just seems to want to wind people up (as we've no way of knowing otherwise), whether it's real or a 'comedy' creation.


I just want to hear his reasoning.

He might have some valid points to make.

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PMQs on 16:57 - Jun 22 with 711 viewsFixed_It

PMQs on 16:12 - Jun 22 by jeera

DaveU strikes again.

The silent down-arrower.

Some reasoning would be nice, a few positives he can see the rest of us cannot.


Difficult to justify the unjustifiable I guess...

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PMQs on 16:59 - Jun 22 with 697 viewsSwansea_Blue

PMQs on 16:57 - Jun 22 by jeera

I just want to hear his reasoning.

He might have some valid points to make.


Maybe the lesser spotted DaveU will make an appearance one day, but I wouldn't hold your breath!

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PMQs on 17:01 - Jun 22 with 696 viewseireblue

PMQs on 16:55 - Jun 22 by Swansea_Blue

Surprised Phil puts up with the patheticness of it. Certainly adds nothing to the forum and just seems to want to wind people up (as we've no way of knowing otherwise), whether it's real or a 'comedy' creation.


I just take joy in the fact that DaveU is perfectly representing the Shy Tories.

Even on an anonymous message board, we have someone that is so embarrassed and shameful of their support, they can only bring themselves to silently vote.
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PMQs on 17:10 - Jun 22 with 679 viewsmutters

As with a lot of things only time and reflection can say whether something was good or bad but it certainly feels like we have one of the worst if the not the worst government in living memory.

It also feels like the last 5 or so PMs would all be at the bottom of any list well!

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PMQs on 17:13 - Jun 22 with 667 viewsBlueBadger

PMQs on 15:38 - Jun 22 by GlasgowBlue

Worst in my lifetime.


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PMQs on 17:14 - Jun 22 with 662 viewsBlueBadger

PMQs on 17:10 - Jun 22 by mutters

As with a lot of things only time and reflection can say whether something was good or bad but it certainly feels like we have one of the worst if the not the worst government in living memory.

It also feels like the last 5 or so PMs would all be at the bottom of any list well!


I thought Cameron was a pygmy and a fraud, but he looks positively Chuchillian compared to what's followed.
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PMQs on 17:17 - Jun 22 with 649 viewsBlueBadger

PMQs on 14:46 - Jun 22 by giant_ullaa

Worse would be them getting another term to create more of their mayhem laced with incompetence. This is why I can't understand the left wing of the labour party being more interested in attacking Starmer.




I always think of this when I see some of more devout cultists getting going.

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PMQs on 17:50 - Jun 22 with 594 viewsBlueBadger

PMQs on 16:57 - Jun 22 by Fixed_It

Difficult to justify the unjustifiable I guess...


Literally the only time anyone turns out to defend them now is when Mad Harry points out that Boris might not be in the peak of physical condition.

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PMQs on 18:14 - Jun 22 with 570 viewsmutters

PMQs on 17:14 - Jun 22 by BlueBadger

I thought Cameron was a pygmy and a fraud, but he looks positively Chuchillian compared to what's followed.
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What a statement to make 😂

Then once the laughter dies down the reality of the situation kicks in.

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PMQs on 18:35 - Jun 22 with 553 viewsfactual_blue

PMQs on 17:50 - Jun 22 by BlueBadger

Literally the only time anyone turns out to defend them now is when Mad Harry points out that Boris might not be in the peak of physical condition.


Don't be silly. boris goes running every day.

And he's had a personal trainer since the NHS kept him alive.

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PMQs on 18:35 - Jun 22 with 551 viewsmylittletown

PMQs on 18:14 - Jun 22 by mutters

What a statement to make 😂

Then once the laughter dies down the reality of the situation kicks in.

In the words of a famous golden droid.....



No, Cameron is the arrogant c**t who caused all this.
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