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Diana Ross at Glastonbury 12:55 - Jul 3 with 1917 viewsnoggin

Blimey, they just played Stop in the name of love, on Radio 2. Now I know she's getting on a bit but that was painful to listen to.

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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 13:07 - Jul 3 with 1848 viewsjeera

I couldn't understand why she was there.

I tried to watch but barely got a quarter of the way through the first song.

Being heavily carried by backing singers, it was still very weak.

I switched over. That's not how I want to remember an all-time great.

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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 13:13 - Jul 3 with 1814 viewsjaykay

did people expect pop stars of the 60s , sound like they did in their prime ?

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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 13:16 - Jul 3 with 1801 viewsbluefunk

Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 13:07 - Jul 3 by jeera

I couldn't understand why she was there.

I tried to watch but barely got a quarter of the way through the first song.

Being heavily carried by backing singers, it was still very weak.

I switched over. That's not how I want to remember an all-time great.


She never could sing well enough to carry the reputation she had. She was a triumph of ambition over talent who made sure she’s get too billing by marrying the boss. Far better singers than her got sidelined at Motown as a result, including her band mates Mary Wilson and Florence Ballard, Gladys Knight, Martha Reeves, all of whom were much more talented than Ross
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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 13:16 - Jul 3 with 1799 viewsjeera

Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 13:13 - Jul 3 by jaykay

did people expect pop stars of the 60s , sound like they did in their prime ?


I would have personally preferred to see more recent talent rather the same old I've heard a thousand times.

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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 13:17 - Jul 3 with 1797 viewsnoggin

Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 13:13 - Jul 3 by jaykay

did people expect pop stars of the 60s , sound like they did in their prime ?


No, of course not.

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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 13:22 - Jul 3 with 1768 viewsStu_boy

It was terrible when she tried to get the crowd to sin along and no one in the audience knew the words, sounded flat throughout her set as well
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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 14:15 - Jul 3 with 1665 viewsDubtractor

Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 13:07 - Jul 3 by jeera

I couldn't understand why she was there.

I tried to watch but barely got a quarter of the way through the first song.

Being heavily carried by backing singers, it was still very weak.

I switched over. That's not how I want to remember an all-time great.


"Being heavily carried by backing singers, it was still very weak."

I watched a bit of it live, and that comment nails it. Given that, I'm surprised they are revisiting the set for further coverage.

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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 14:16 - Jul 3 with 1660 viewsStokieBlue

Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 13:13 - Jul 3 by jaykay

did people expect pop stars of the 60s , sound like they did in their prime ?


The Pet Shop Boys sounded incredible.

As good as they ever have I would say and they are pushing 70. It's very much artist dependant.

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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 14:25 - Jul 3 with 1613 viewsBent_double

I said the same when it was live last week, I had to turn the sound down it was that bad.

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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 15:18 - Jul 3 with 1527 viewsjaykay

Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 14:16 - Jul 3 by StokieBlue

The Pet Shop Boys sounded incredible.

As good as they ever have I would say and they are pushing 70. It's very much artist dependant.

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no idea how old the pet shop boys are, althou i know they had hits in the 80s . i agree she was crap but can't believe people thought she would be even ok.
even van morrison who i go to see whenever i can, voice is nowhere what it was.
blues singers get better with old age i suppose , but they normally sit through their sets

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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 15:18 - Jul 3 with 1526 viewsBudapestByBlimp

The singing I can almost forgive, but that penalty
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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 15:54 - Jul 3 with 1449 viewsIllinoisblue

Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 15:18 - Jul 3 by jaykay

no idea how old the pet shop boys are, althou i know they had hits in the 80s . i agree she was crap but can't believe people thought she would be even ok.
even van morrison who i go to see whenever i can, voice is nowhere what it was.
blues singers get better with old age i suppose , but they normally sit through their sets


Neil Tenant is 68. The other one is 65.

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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 15:55 - Jul 3 with 1447 viewsStokieBlue

Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 15:18 - Jul 3 by jaykay

no idea how old the pet shop boys are, althou i know they had hits in the 80s . i agree she was crap but can't believe people thought she would be even ok.
even van morrison who i go to see whenever i can, voice is nowhere what it was.
blues singers get better with old age i suppose , but they normally sit through their sets


I misread your post as "singers in their 60's" which is totally different to the response I gave you.

Still artist dependent though, she is only 10 years older than Tennent.

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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 16:11 - Jul 3 with 1404 viewsGlasgowBlue

Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 13:16 - Jul 3 by jeera

I would have personally preferred to see more recent talent rather the same old I've heard a thousand times.


She was on the Sunday afternoon Legends stage. ELO and Barry Gibb were previous ‘Legends Headliners’ and were absolutely brilliant.

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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 16:13 - Jul 3 with 1383 viewsGlasgowBlue

Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 13:16 - Jul 3 by bluefunk

She never could sing well enough to carry the reputation she had. She was a triumph of ambition over talent who made sure she’s get too billing by marrying the boss. Far better singers than her got sidelined at Motown as a result, including her band mates Mary Wilson and Florence Ballard, Gladys Knight, Martha Reeves, all of whom were much more talented than Ross


Berry Gordy thought Florence Ballard sounded to black to crack the white audience. He also thought she was a little to ‘plump’.

But yes, a far superior singer than Diana Ross.

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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 16:19 - Jul 3 with 1362 viewsGlasgowBlue

Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 14:16 - Jul 3 by StokieBlue

The Pet Shop Boys sounded incredible.

As good as they ever have I would say and they are pushing 70. It's very much artist dependant.

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I love the PSB but in fairness Neil Tennant never had a great voice to lose. His nasally whine absolutely suits the music he performs. But he’d never have hit the heights of Ain’t No Mountain High Enough or Good Morning Heartache from Lady Sings The BLues.

It’s like comparing apples with oranges.

Performers like Tennant, Phil Oakey and others from that genre were never great singers as such so won’t suffer from a declining singing voice due to age.

As I say, nothing against the PSB. Have been on board with them since ‘Please’ in 1986. I even used to buy their budget remix albums.
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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 17:43 - Jul 3 with 1227 viewsStokieBlue

Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 16:19 - Jul 3 by GlasgowBlue

I love the PSB but in fairness Neil Tennant never had a great voice to lose. His nasally whine absolutely suits the music he performs. But he’d never have hit the heights of Ain’t No Mountain High Enough or Good Morning Heartache from Lady Sings The BLues.

It’s like comparing apples with oranges.

Performers like Tennant, Phil Oakey and others from that genre were never great singers as such so won’t suffer from a declining singing voice due to age.

As I say, nothing against the PSB. Have been on board with them since ‘Please’ in 1986. I even used to buy their budget remix albums.
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Saying someone can't perform songs that other people can is rather irrelevant when comparing how a specific individual performed their own songs 40 years ago and today. The consistency of the artist over time was what was being highlighted.

So as per my original post, I think it's entirely artist dependant.

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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 18:05 - Jul 3 with 1186 viewsGlasgowBlue

Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 17:43 - Jul 3 by StokieBlue

Saying someone can't perform songs that other people can is rather irrelevant when comparing how a specific individual performed their own songs 40 years ago and today. The consistency of the artist over time was what was being highlighted.

So as per my original post, I think it's entirely artist dependant.

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You seem to have missed my point.

The people who seem to have lost their voices are people who could sing well in the first place. Diana Ross is an example given. Rod Stewart is another.

Rod Stewart was one of the finest white blues singers of his generation. He can't perform his songs with any credibility at all as his voice has deteriorated.

Neil Tennant is not, and has never been a singer on the classic sense. He will probably sound the same when he 99 years old. He's not attempting to hit notes. It's a monotone nasally whine which is used to very good effect.

So when you and somebody else were comparing Ross and Tennant's ages, and their ability to still perform it was like comparing apples with oranges.

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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 18:08 - Jul 3 with 1178 viewsStokieBlue

Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 18:05 - Jul 3 by GlasgowBlue

You seem to have missed my point.

The people who seem to have lost their voices are people who could sing well in the first place. Diana Ross is an example given. Rod Stewart is another.

Rod Stewart was one of the finest white blues singers of his generation. He can't perform his songs with any credibility at all as his voice has deteriorated.

Neil Tennant is not, and has never been a singer on the classic sense. He will probably sound the same when he 99 years old. He's not attempting to hit notes. It's a monotone nasally whine which is used to very good effect.

So when you and somebody else were comparing Ross and Tennant's ages, and their ability to still perform it was like comparing apples with oranges.


So it's artist dependant then?

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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 18:11 - Jul 3 with 1162 viewsGlasgowBlue

Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 18:08 - Jul 3 by StokieBlue

So it's artist dependant then?

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I'd say it was genre dependent rather than artist.

Blues, Rock and Soul singers voices will deteriorate due to age. Non singers less so.
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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 20:04 - Jul 3 with 1034 viewsjaykay

Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 18:08 - Jul 3 by StokieBlue

So it's artist dependant then?

SB


lets just say i couldn't sing in the 60s which were my prime years, and i still sound the same in my 70s still tone death

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Diana Ross at Glastonbury on 20:04 - Jul 3 with 1037 viewsDinDjarin

It's a sad state of affairs when most of the headliners were older than me and I'm a 71 child.

Who will be headlining in 20 yrs.

Best I saw was Jack White and he's no spring chicken anymore.
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