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Anybody else seen 17:48 - Oct 26 with 11471 viewsfactual_blue

that appalling racist picture about rishi?

It shows 10 Downing Street transformed into a corner shop, with the caption 'and he's only been there five hours'.

Unsurprisingly, both people who sent it to me are part of the never, ever racist golfing community.

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Anybody else seen on 17:55 - Oct 26 with 6180 viewsDJR

Yep, but I saw it on a reputable website which condemned it. But sadly, this sort of attitude is not uncommon because if you look at the comments on the Mail website there are many who appear to reject him because he is not "English". And a racist caller to LBC on Saturday mirrored this view.
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Anybody else seen on 18:05 - Oct 26 with 6109 viewsHARRY10

Anybody else seen on 17:55 - Oct 26 by DJR

Yep, but I saw it on a reputable website which condemned it. But sadly, this sort of attitude is not uncommon because if you look at the comments on the Mail website there are many who appear to reject him because he is not "English". And a racist caller to LBC on Saturday mirrored this view.


One of the dubious 'pleasures of being white is having casual racist remarks made to you on the basis you naturally agree

It was one of the keystones of brexit

I never came across anyone making those remarks who supported Remain
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Anybody else seen on 18:19 - Oct 26 with 6076 viewsfactual_blue

Anybody else seen on 17:55 - Oct 26 by DJR

Yep, but I saw it on a reputable website which condemned it. But sadly, this sort of attitude is not uncommon because if you look at the comments on the Mail website there are many who appear to reject him because he is not "English". And a racist caller to LBC on Saturday mirrored this view.


It's a ridiculous picture for several reasons.

1. No commercially astute south Asian businessman would open a shop on a street with no public right of way.

2. It's a Grade One listed building, and so change of use to mixed domestic/retail is extremely unlikely to be granted.

3. As the centre of British government, there are undoubtedly security concerns that would have to be addressed as well.
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Anybody else seen on 18:32 - Oct 26 with 6001 viewsSwansea_Blue

That's not racist you daft sausage. It's just, er, showing that he, er, um... ah! supports businesses. Yes, that's it - he's a great advocate for local businesses

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Anybody else seen on 18:33 - Oct 26 with 5997 viewsCaptainAhab

I look forward to receiving it on WhatsApp later from my mum... When I point out it's racist she'll say, it's funny though.
Thankfully these sorts of attitude are getting more and more outdated and scorned, despite the usual bluster about wokeness
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Anybody else seen on 18:36 - Oct 26 with 5975 viewsMatterhorn

Anybody else seen on 18:19 - Oct 26 by factual_blue

It's a ridiculous picture for several reasons.

1. No commercially astute south Asian businessman would open a shop on a street with no public right of way.

2. It's a Grade One listed building, and so change of use to mixed domestic/retail is extremely unlikely to be granted.

3. As the centre of British government, there are undoubtedly security concerns that would have to be addressed as well.
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After farages twitter post about needing some help to start a new party, how likely is it that him, Johnson, Rees mogg, Patel etc actually do that to satisfy these morons, unfortunately I think they would be quite popular
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Anybody else seen on 18:48 - Oct 26 with 5912 viewsSwansea_Blue

Anybody else seen on 18:19 - Oct 26 by factual_blue

It's a ridiculous picture for several reasons.

1. No commercially astute south Asian businessman would open a shop on a street with no public right of way.

2. It's a Grade One listed building, and so change of use to mixed domestic/retail is extremely unlikely to be granted.

3. As the centre of British government, there are undoubtedly security concerns that would have to be addressed as well.
[Post edited 26 Oct 2022 18:20]


these racists don't think through the practicalities do they?

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Anybody else seen on 19:36 - Oct 26 with 5746 viewsHARRY10

Anybody else seen on 18:36 - Oct 26 by Matterhorn

After farages twitter post about needing some help to start a new party, how likely is it that him, Johnson, Rees mogg, Patel etc actually do that to satisfy these morons, unfortunately I think they would be quite popular


Fartrage will undoubtedly come up with another business, masquerading as a political party to con the Alf Garnett out of their money yet again.

The rest will stay put - demonstrating the idiocy of PR. Infiltrate a major party and attempt to steer it in the direction you wish see various Trots re Labour

They could leave and get 10% of the vote and 10% of the MPs..... and have 0% of the decision making.

Sunak is much like the rest. Self serving and willing to do what it takes to stay in power. he should take john Majors line of put up or fck off.

These right wing nutters will stalk the political scene within weeks, be warned
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Anybody else seen on 19:41 - Oct 26 with 5731 viewsSwansea_Blue

Anybody else seen on 18:36 - Oct 26 by Matterhorn

After farages twitter post about needing some help to start a new party, how likely is it that him, Johnson, Rees mogg, Patel etc actually do that to satisfy these morons, unfortunately I think they would be quite popular


The good news is I don’t think they’d be very popular. The bad news is because the current Government are scratching their racist/xenophobic itch.

When someone in government makes the outrageous suggestion that we should provide safe, legal routes for asylum seekers to reach the UK and have an efficient process for dealing with their claims, then I could see something like another UKIP split.

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Anybody else seen on 21:11 - Oct 26 with 5529 viewsBlueBadger

I have seen similar, only involving Larry the cat. You can probably guess the rest. These are the same people who will be voting for him grudgingly because he's 'one of the good ones'.

I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
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Anybody else seen on 00:40 - Oct 27 with 5276 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Anybody else seen on 18:19 - Oct 26 by factual_blue

It's a ridiculous picture for several reasons.

1. No commercially astute south Asian businessman would open a shop on a street with no public right of way.

2. It's a Grade One listed building, and so change of use to mixed domestic/retail is extremely unlikely to be granted.

3. As the centre of British government, there are undoubtedly security concerns that would have to be addressed as well.
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4. Probably too much competition in the area given that there is an open-late Off Licence within wheelie case dragging distance.
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Anybody else seen on 08:25 - Oct 27 with 5101 viewsMalcolmMeatballHead

Is it any different to some of you lot calling Boris a 'fat C**t' like a lot of you seem to take pleasure in doing?
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Anybody else seen on 08:53 - Oct 27 with 5008 viewsPinewoodblue

Anybody else seen on 21:11 - Oct 26 by BlueBadger

I have seen similar, only involving Larry the cat. You can probably guess the rest. These are the same people who will be voting for him grudgingly because he's 'one of the good ones'.


The one I’ve seen involving Larry he is explaining how he has taken in another stray and not sure how long he will stay. Then some comment about the previous stray being a pain in the ‘not neck’.

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Anybody else seen on 09:00 - Oct 27 with 4986 viewsZx1988

Anybody else seen on 08:25 - Oct 27 by MalcolmMeatballHead

Is it any different to some of you lot calling Boris a 'fat C**t' like a lot of you seem to take pleasure in doing?


Yes, Nadine, it's massively different.
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Anybody else seen on 09:07 - Oct 27 with 4963 viewsusm

Thanks for sharing Facters....

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Anybody else seen on 09:27 - Oct 27 with 4908 viewsGlasgowBlue

Anybody else seen on 08:25 - Oct 27 by MalcolmMeatballHead

Is it any different to some of you lot calling Boris a 'fat C**t' like a lot of you seem to take pleasure in doing?


Quite a lot of difference. In general, fat people are fat because of their lifestyle choices. I accept there are people with medical conditions who are over weight through no fault of their own. There are also mental health issues that drive people into over eating.

However, body shaming is unacceptable and hurtful. People classed as obese have been driven to suicide due to relentless bullying due to their appearance. I don’t like it and I hate seeing people on here turn a blind eye to it just because it is aimed at somebody who they loathe and detest.

However, racism and racial stereotypes or tropes have been used for centuries to either dehumanise people of colour, discriminate against them, mock and abuse them or keep them “in their place”.

People of colour have no choice in their skin colour. They will be abused for it. As their parents were, and their parents before. People have been put in chains and used as slaves because they were deemed inferior because if their skin colour.

So neither is acceptable, but racism if by far more abhorrent than body shaming.

Edit. I started writing this reply to highlight the difference between body shaming and racism but as I’ve typed it I’m even more annoyed that body shaming is seen as acceptable ad condoned on here. It shouldn’t be.
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Anybody else seen on 09:37 - Oct 27 with 4843 viewsDanTheMan

Anybody else seen on 09:27 - Oct 27 by GlasgowBlue

Quite a lot of difference. In general, fat people are fat because of their lifestyle choices. I accept there are people with medical conditions who are over weight through no fault of their own. There are also mental health issues that drive people into over eating.

However, body shaming is unacceptable and hurtful. People classed as obese have been driven to suicide due to relentless bullying due to their appearance. I don’t like it and I hate seeing people on here turn a blind eye to it just because it is aimed at somebody who they loathe and detest.

However, racism and racial stereotypes or tropes have been used for centuries to either dehumanise people of colour, discriminate against them, mock and abuse them or keep them “in their place”.

People of colour have no choice in their skin colour. They will be abused for it. As their parents were, and their parents before. People have been put in chains and used as slaves because they were deemed inferior because if their skin colour.

So neither is acceptable, but racism if by far more abhorrent than body shaming.

Edit. I started writing this reply to highlight the difference between body shaming and racism but as I’ve typed it I’m even more annoyed that body shaming is seen as acceptable ad condoned on here. It shouldn’t be.
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Basically, if you're criticising someone, just keep their physical attributes out of it.

With Boris there is so much to criticise without brining his weight into it.

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Anybody else seen on 10:08 - Oct 27 with 4762 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Anybody else seen on 09:37 - Oct 27 by DanTheMan

Basically, if you're criticising someone, just keep their physical attributes out of it.

With Boris there is so much to criticise without brining his weight into it.


You’ve just made 95pc of Harry’s posts redundant…
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Anybody else seen on 10:11 - Oct 27 with 4745 viewsGlasgowBlue

Anybody else seen on 09:37 - Oct 27 by DanTheMan

Basically, if you're criticising someone, just keep their physical attributes out of it.

With Boris there is so much to criticise without brining his weight into it.


Very much this. Attack Johnson for being a vile and deplorable human being. There is so much to attack him for that doesn't involve body shaming. I didn't like it when people on the right used to do the same to Diane Abbott.

It's like when people attack Braveman and Patel as the daughters of immigrants when highlighting their loathsome immigration policies. It is defining them by their colour. They don't have to be grateful that this country gave their parents a home and life here. It shouldn't define them. They are loathsome and vile individuals in their own right. It's basically telling them that they should be grateful for where they are now and that should define them as politicians.

No it shouldn't. C**ts are c**ts. Whether they are white or POC. Straight or gay. Overweight or thin.

One thing we are starting to see with a diverse Parliamentary Conservative party with so many members of the BAME community being represented in high offices of State is that POC can hold positions that not all of us agree with. They shouldn't be put into a box or labeled.

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Ironically the other 5pc.... on 10:13 - Oct 27 with 4747 viewsBloots

Anybody else seen on 10:08 - Oct 27 by SuperKieranMcKenna

You’ve just made 95pc of Harry’s posts redundant…


....is him calling JRM a "stick insect".

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Anybody else seen on 10:28 - Oct 27 with 4684 viewsEwan_Oozami

Anybody else seen on 19:36 - Oct 26 by HARRY10

Fartrage will undoubtedly come up with another business, masquerading as a political party to con the Alf Garnett out of their money yet again.

The rest will stay put - demonstrating the idiocy of PR. Infiltrate a major party and attempt to steer it in the direction you wish see various Trots re Labour

They could leave and get 10% of the vote and 10% of the MPs..... and have 0% of the decision making.

Sunak is much like the rest. Self serving and willing to do what it takes to stay in power. he should take john Majors line of put up or fck off.

These right wing nutters will stalk the political scene within weeks, be warned


Ah, wondered when the daily PR bash would happen!

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Anybody else seen on 10:53 - Oct 27 with 4647 viewsDanTheMan

Anybody else seen on 10:11 - Oct 27 by GlasgowBlue

Very much this. Attack Johnson for being a vile and deplorable human being. There is so much to attack him for that doesn't involve body shaming. I didn't like it when people on the right used to do the same to Diane Abbott.

It's like when people attack Braveman and Patel as the daughters of immigrants when highlighting their loathsome immigration policies. It is defining them by their colour. They don't have to be grateful that this country gave their parents a home and life here. It shouldn't define them. They are loathsome and vile individuals in their own right. It's basically telling them that they should be grateful for where they are now and that should define them as politicians.

No it shouldn't. C**ts are c**ts. Whether they are white or POC. Straight or gay. Overweight or thin.

One thing we are starting to see with a diverse Parliamentary Conservative party with so many members of the BAME community being represented in high offices of State is that POC can hold positions that not all of us agree with. They shouldn't be put into a box or labeled.


I'd actually disagree with the immigration policies thing, as it has nothing to do with their skin colour but more to do with their family and themselves benefitting from a policy and then choosing to pull the ladder up. I don't think that's unfair to criticise, but happy to have that discussion!

I'd liken it to people to a lot of MPs getting free University and then pulling the ladder up for that as well.

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Anybody else seen on 13:11 - Oct 27 with 4512 viewsGlasgowBlue

Anybody else seen on 10:53 - Oct 27 by DanTheMan

I'd actually disagree with the immigration policies thing, as it has nothing to do with their skin colour but more to do with their family and themselves benefitting from a policy and then choosing to pull the ladder up. I don't think that's unfair to criticise, but happy to have that discussion!

I'd liken it to people to a lot of MPs getting free University and then pulling the ladder up for that as well.


We'll not agree on this one Dan. But it's a pet hate of mine.

I believe people should be judged on their own merits. Or lack of. Everyone should be a blank canvass.

There is a reason why one of th examples in the IHRA Definition of Antisemitism has is “Drawing of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis”.*

It's not attacking the Israelis for their appalling actions towards Palestinians. There are plenty of examples of nations acting appallingly towards other peoples. Any of those comparisons would be fine. But by comparing their actions to what happened to Jews under the Nazis it is attacking Israelis for their Jewishness.

So by extension, I think attacking 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants on their immigration policies by invoking how they themselves ended up being British citizens is defining them by their ethnicity.

As I say, we'll disagree on this but that's my view.

*For those wanting to take this thread down a well trodden road, don't bother. I was using the IHRA example purely for the purpose of this thread.

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Anybody else seen on 13:46 - Oct 27 with 4420 viewsPassionNotAnger

Anybody else seen on 09:27 - Oct 27 by GlasgowBlue

Quite a lot of difference. In general, fat people are fat because of their lifestyle choices. I accept there are people with medical conditions who are over weight through no fault of their own. There are also mental health issues that drive people into over eating.

However, body shaming is unacceptable and hurtful. People classed as obese have been driven to suicide due to relentless bullying due to their appearance. I don’t like it and I hate seeing people on here turn a blind eye to it just because it is aimed at somebody who they loathe and detest.

However, racism and racial stereotypes or tropes have been used for centuries to either dehumanise people of colour, discriminate against them, mock and abuse them or keep them “in their place”.

People of colour have no choice in their skin colour. They will be abused for it. As their parents were, and their parents before. People have been put in chains and used as slaves because they were deemed inferior because if their skin colour.

So neither is acceptable, but racism if by far more abhorrent than body shaming.

Edit. I started writing this reply to highlight the difference between body shaming and racism but as I’ve typed it I’m even more annoyed that body shaming is seen as acceptable ad condoned on here. It shouldn’t be.
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But when you labeled the response of some morons following a positive LFC tweet as “typical scousers” that type of lazy trope is acceptable?

For balance though, I do agree with you entirely on this particular post
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Anybody else seen on 13:58 - Oct 27 with 4385 viewsGlasgowBlue

Anybody else seen on 13:46 - Oct 27 by PassionNotAnger

But when you labeled the response of some morons following a positive LFC tweet as “typical scousers” that type of lazy trope is acceptable?

For balance though, I do agree with you entirely on this particular post


You’re attributing words to me that I didn’t use.

When LFC tweeted sending wishes to their Jewish fans for Yom Kippur, there were a number of antisemitic replies from their supporters.

I actually posted that Liverpool fans were showing their usual lack of class. This followed their recent distasteful chants regarding the late Queen and historical tweets on Jewish holidays. That is completely irrelevant to the debate we are having in this thread.

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You are desperately trying to shoehorn that in to this one for some bizarre reason.
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