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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover 16:28 - Oct 30 with 7418 viewsNthsuffolkblue

What is this about? Man reported to have taken his own life afterwards.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/petrol-bombs-thrown-at-border-force-immigra

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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 19:27 - Oct 30 with 4142 viewsHARRY10

Farage, perhaps ?
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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 19:37 - Oct 30 with 4151 viewsFtnfwest

Is this possibly a Serbian v Albanian thing?
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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 12:56 - Oct 31 with 3617 viewsSwansea_Blue

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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 13:28 - Oct 31 with 3559 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 12:56 - Oct 31 by Swansea_Blue

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Usual suspect.

Disgusting joke about mental health issues. Given that so many people suffer, and ultimately lose their life as a result, it’s f**** insensitive to say the least.

EDIT: he can have the achievement of being the only person on my ignore list now. Thoroughly unpleasant poster.
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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 13:49 - Oct 31 with 3432 viewsGlasgowBlue

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 13:28 - Oct 31 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Usual suspect.

Disgusting joke about mental health issues. Given that so many people suffer, and ultimately lose their life as a result, it’s f**** insensitive to say the least.

EDIT: he can have the achievement of being the only person on my ignore list now. Thoroughly unpleasant poster.
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Yep. We can add jokes about suicide and mental health issues to Harry's list of shame that already includes racism, misogyny and body shaming.

But hey, he's a progressive. So most on here turn a blind eye to it.

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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 13:59 - Oct 31 with 3453 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 13:49 - Oct 31 by GlasgowBlue

Yep. We can add jokes about suicide and mental health issues to Harry's list of shame that already includes racism, misogyny and body shaming.

But hey, he's a progressive. So most on here turn a blind eye to it.


“But hey, he's a progressive”

He’s about as progressive as Mick McCarthy’s football…
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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 14:04 - Oct 31 with 3401 viewsDarth_Koont

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 13:59 - Oct 31 by SuperKieranMcKenna

“But hey, he's a progressive”

He’s about as progressive as Mick McCarthy’s football…


Indeed. Harry is no progressive. He just seems to be unhealthily (and sometimes offensively) obsessed with red vs blue politics.
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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 15:47 - Oct 31 with 3315 viewsMattinLondon

White bloke throws petrol bombs - it’s certainly not terror and it’s all about mental health. Black or brown fella does exactly the same and it’s all about wanting to bring down the British way of life.
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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 21:29 - Oct 31 with 3182 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 15:47 - Oct 31 by MattinLondon

White bloke throws petrol bombs - it’s certainly not terror and it’s all about mental health. Black or brown fella does exactly the same and it’s all about wanting to bring down the British way of life.


I did wonder why they have been so quick to rule out terror. It appears the chap drove a considerable distance to commit this act. Still no clearer why he did it.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/dead-firebombing-suspect-in-immigration-cen

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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 07:15 - Nov 1 with 3059 viewsnoggin

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 19:27 - Oct 30 by HARRY10

Farage, perhaps ?


He has certainly stoked the fires with his racist rhetoric.

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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 08:14 - Nov 1 with 3010 viewsDJR

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 19:27 - Oct 30 by HARRY10

Farage, perhaps ?


My initial thought was Braverman.
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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 08:23 - Nov 1 with 2998 viewsBlueStreak

Terrorism as simple as that.
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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 08:39 - Nov 1 with 2962 viewsHARRY10

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 08:14 - Nov 1 by DJR

My initial thought was Braverman.


"Yep. We can add jokes about suicide and mental health issues to DJR's list of shame that already includes racism, misogyny and body shaming.

But hey, he's a progressive. So most on here turn a blind eye to it. "


I wonder if the self righteous righties will be having a hissy fit about your suggesting that someone who has put out offensive comments about immigration could have been responsible for this act.

It should be noted that on the Daily Mail comments (within the hour) page there were dozens of posts referring to this chap as a hero, and RIP.

Which does go someway to highlight the 'rightie' mindset. Those on the Mail at least.
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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 18:32 - Nov 1 with 2889 viewsDJR

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 15:47 - Oct 31 by MattinLondon

White bloke throws petrol bombs - it’s certainly not terror and it’s all about mental health. Black or brown fella does exactly the same and it’s all about wanting to bring down the British way of life.


It looks like the attack was hate-filled as counter-terrorism police are now involved, and from the article below it looks like the man was a racist. Interesting to know where the mental health story came from. In any event, it seems premature for Sue Ellen to have stoked tensions by referring to invasion when the full picture of the reason for the attack had not emerged.

https://inews.co.uk/news/crime/suspect-dover-petrol-bomb-attack-counter-terror-p
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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 18:36 - Nov 1 with 2859 viewsHARRY10

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 18:32 - Nov 1 by DJR

It looks like the attack was hate-filled as counter-terrorism police are now involved, and from the article below it looks like the man was a racist. Interesting to know where the mental health story came from. In any event, it seems premature for Sue Ellen to have stoked tensions by referring to invasion when the full picture of the reason for the attack had not emerged.

https://inews.co.uk/news/crime/suspect-dover-petrol-bomb-attack-counter-terror-p


A fall back cover story used by righties. Hess, he was mad claimed the fanatically sane, err...Adolf Hitler.

If it was that he was merely a racist, the perhaps by joke that it was Farage was not so far out after all.
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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 19:51 - Nov 1 with 2820 viewsSwansea_Blue

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 18:36 - Nov 1 by HARRY10

A fall back cover story used by righties. Hess, he was mad claimed the fanatically sane, err...Adolf Hitler.

If it was that he was merely a racist, the perhaps by joke that it was Farage was not so far out after all.


Seems like you might be owed an apology.

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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 20:30 - Nov 1 with 2755 viewsGlasgowBlue

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 19:51 - Nov 1 by Swansea_Blue

Seems like you might be owed an apology.


He isn't owed an apology. He made a distasteful joke at the expense of suicide and mental heath issues.

It wasn't reported as abuse, yet Phil felt that it was should be removed.

So unless you think jokes about suicide and mental health issues are a laughing matter then perhaps you'll re-evaluate your post.

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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 20:42 - Nov 1 with 2752 viewsMattinLondon

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 18:32 - Nov 1 by DJR

It looks like the attack was hate-filled as counter-terrorism police are now involved, and from the article below it looks like the man was a racist. Interesting to know where the mental health story came from. In any event, it seems premature for Sue Ellen to have stoked tensions by referring to invasion when the full picture of the reason for the attack had not emerged.

https://inews.co.uk/news/crime/suspect-dover-petrol-bomb-attack-counter-terror-p


The next time that there is a terrorist attack perpetrated by a Muslim the media narrative will be that the Muslim community should do more to weed out radicalised individuals. It’s almost the same narrative when a black personality commits a heinous crime. Black families failing the younger generations.

But if a white bloke performs a terrorist attack the media never questions whether or not their use of language radicalises individuals. A lot of the right-wing press are as bad as any fundamentalist preacher. But obviously it’s all about mental health issues rather than vile racism.
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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 20:50 - Nov 1 with 2750 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 19:51 - Nov 1 by Swansea_Blue

Seems like you might be owed an apology.


It was grossly offensive- a topic that’s a bit close to home for me.

He’s had a number of bigoted posts removed (more than any other poster I can think of). No wonder some think he’s a parody account to discredit the left. Sadly leads to deniability for him, but at least I won’t be able to see them now.
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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 23:41 - Nov 1 with 2659 viewsHARRY10

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 20:30 - Nov 1 by GlasgowBlue

He isn't owed an apology. He made a distasteful joke at the expense of suicide and mental heath issues.

It wasn't reported as abuse, yet Phil felt that it was should be removed.

So unless you think jokes about suicide and mental health issues are a laughing matter then perhaps you'll re-evaluate your post.


I shall always struggle to post a worthy joke-as long as GB news is on this forum. Someone who would give Hans Christian Anderson a run for his money.

For the record the post removed was the same as the one still there, only I used Nigel instead of Fartrage.

I doubt the irony of GB News getting himself worked up in defence of someone who threw petrol bombs intending them to cause harm. Fartrage has used incendiary language time and time again. Something I do not feel is the actions of a sane man. Hence the comment.

Note the irony of a rightie trying to 'cancel' someone.

Perhaps he might have another read of the Daily Mail comments and those elsewhere who described this bomber as a martyr, a true patriot and a freedom fighter..... hoping to burn children to death.

Much as with the bloater, where GB news uses the vacuous newspeak term fat shaming, when I mocked the bloaters hypocrisy. He was the bloater who told the country that should take more exercise, to get fit and lose weight, when he continued to pile in the pounds. Hence the comments about the evidence...his weight.

To expect GB news to apologise would be to expect a skunk to apologise for the smell he creates. As that's what a skunk does and .............
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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 07:12 - Nov 2 with 2559 viewsGlasgowBlue

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 23:41 - Nov 1 by HARRY10

I shall always struggle to post a worthy joke-as long as GB news is on this forum. Someone who would give Hans Christian Anderson a run for his money.

For the record the post removed was the same as the one still there, only I used Nigel instead of Fartrage.

I doubt the irony of GB News getting himself worked up in defence of someone who threw petrol bombs intending them to cause harm. Fartrage has used incendiary language time and time again. Something I do not feel is the actions of a sane man. Hence the comment.

Note the irony of a rightie trying to 'cancel' someone.

Perhaps he might have another read of the Daily Mail comments and those elsewhere who described this bomber as a martyr, a true patriot and a freedom fighter..... hoping to burn children to death.

Much as with the bloater, where GB news uses the vacuous newspeak term fat shaming, when I mocked the bloaters hypocrisy. He was the bloater who told the country that should take more exercise, to get fit and lose weight, when he continued to pile in the pounds. Hence the comments about the evidence...his weight.

To expect GB news to apologise would be to expect a skunk to apologise for the smell he creates. As that's what a skunk does and .............


That’s simply not true Harry. Phil removed your offensive post. Not me. I’m not aware of anyone reporting your post to Phil. He saw it and removed it. The context was completely different to your other post which has not been removed.

You mocked suicide and people with mental health issues. Over the years we have had a number of board members bravely talk about their struggles with mental health issues. I posted about my own daughter who was self harming during lockdown. Tractorboyjames has posted above that your post was offensive and a little too close to home. People with mental health issues or those of us who have friends or loved ones who suffer from mental health issues shouldn’t have to see your crass and offensive remarks, which is why Phil removed them.

This is Phil’s board. He makes the rules. If you don’t like them then piss off.
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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 11:23 - Nov 2 with 2470 viewsSwansea_Blue

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 20:30 - Nov 1 by GlasgowBlue

He isn't owed an apology. He made a distasteful joke at the expense of suicide and mental heath issues.

It wasn't reported as abuse, yet Phil felt that it was should be removed.

So unless you think jokes about suicide and mental health issues are a laughing matter then perhaps you'll re-evaluate your post.


That's not how I read it at the time and I thought it was clear his main argument was against the demonisation of asylum seekers by the likes of Farage.

Obviously his second post was taken down, so any claims cannot be validated. On his first post that's still up that you also claimed was a sick joke, I don't agree it's anything of the sort. He's pointing out that it's the likes of Farage that radicalises people. That's true, irrespective of whether they have mental health problems or not (and there's still no proof in this case that was a factor, but it has been taken over by the anti-terrorism authorities). The poor guy who took his own life had social media pages full of the vile hate mongering people like Farage and Tommy Robinson push.

Harry's not the enemy even if his posts are full of rhetoric and can be tasteless. The people like Farage/Braverman/the DW, Express, etc., are the problem. They are the ones trying to divide us by demonising asylum seekers and immigrants in general. That's where people's ire should be directed imo.

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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 11:37 - Nov 2 with 2410 viewsGlasgowBlue

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 11:23 - Nov 2 by Swansea_Blue

That's not how I read it at the time and I thought it was clear his main argument was against the demonisation of asylum seekers by the likes of Farage.

Obviously his second post was taken down, so any claims cannot be validated. On his first post that's still up that you also claimed was a sick joke, I don't agree it's anything of the sort. He's pointing out that it's the likes of Farage that radicalises people. That's true, irrespective of whether they have mental health problems or not (and there's still no proof in this case that was a factor, but it has been taken over by the anti-terrorism authorities). The poor guy who took his own life had social media pages full of the vile hate mongering people like Farage and Tommy Robinson push.

Harry's not the enemy even if his posts are full of rhetoric and can be tasteless. The people like Farage/Braverman/the DW, Express, etc., are the problem. They are the ones trying to divide us by demonising asylum seekers and immigrants in general. That's where people's ire should be directed imo.


Yet two of us saw it entirely differently and aPhl removed the posts despite no report of abuse.

The first post that still remains is fine in isolation. But in the context of his second, it wasn't.

At the time of his post there was no information available that could give him any justification for his post.

He constantly gets a pass from some people on this board even when he strays into racism and misogyny. Please don't defend the mocking of suicide and mental health issues.

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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 11:54 - Nov 2 with 2430 viewsSuperKieranMcKenna

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 11:23 - Nov 2 by Swansea_Blue

That's not how I read it at the time and I thought it was clear his main argument was against the demonisation of asylum seekers by the likes of Farage.

Obviously his second post was taken down, so any claims cannot be validated. On his first post that's still up that you also claimed was a sick joke, I don't agree it's anything of the sort. He's pointing out that it's the likes of Farage that radicalises people. That's true, irrespective of whether they have mental health problems or not (and there's still no proof in this case that was a factor, but it has been taken over by the anti-terrorism authorities). The poor guy who took his own life had social media pages full of the vile hate mongering people like Farage and Tommy Robinson push.

Harry's not the enemy even if his posts are full of rhetoric and can be tasteless. The people like Farage/Braverman/the DW, Express, etc., are the problem. They are the ones trying to divide us by demonising asylum seekers and immigrants in general. That's where people's ire should be directed imo.


Have to disagree here - you are conflating two different things. Nobody’s has jumped in to defend Farage - everyone knows he’s a C.

But that doesn’t give him the right to make jokes about mental health and suicide. It’s not funny and actually quite upsetting that he thinks it is. No more amusing than than his previous jokes mocking the blind or Jehovah’s Witness. He’s had multiple offensive posts pulled - quite frankly he’s a b3llend whoever he votes for.

There’s a bit of “he’s on my team so I’ll let the bigotry pass”. Last I’ll say on it as I’ve put him on ignore but hopefully others will continue to call out his bigotry.
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Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 12:45 - Nov 2 with 2380 viewsSwansea_Blue

Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 11:54 - Nov 2 by SuperKieranMcKenna

Have to disagree here - you are conflating two different things. Nobody’s has jumped in to defend Farage - everyone knows he’s a C.

But that doesn’t give him the right to make jokes about mental health and suicide. It’s not funny and actually quite upsetting that he thinks it is. No more amusing than than his previous jokes mocking the blind or Jehovah’s Witness. He’s had multiple offensive posts pulled - quite frankly he’s a b3llend whoever he votes for.

There’s a bit of “he’s on my team so I’ll let the bigotry pass”. Last I’ll say on it as I’ve put him on ignore but hopefully others will continue to call out his bigotry.


As I mentioned to Glassers, it wasn’t obvious to me he was making jokes about mental health. We can’t resolve that though. Maybe I just read his second post wrongly or missed something; it’s certainly possible, as Harry gets a bit carried away (obsessive) in his rhetoric at times!

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