| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 13:41 - Nov 2 with 2328 views | blueasfook |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 07:12 - Nov 2 by GlasgowBlue |
That’s simply not true Harry. Phil removed your offensive post. Not me. I’m not aware of anyone reporting your post to Phil. He saw it and removed it. The context was completely different to your other post which has not been removed.
You mocked suicide and people with mental health issues. Over the years we have had a number of board members bravely talk about their struggles with mental health issues. I posted about my own daughter who was self harming during lockdown. Tractorboyjames has posted above that your post was offensive and a little too close to home. People with mental health issues or those of us who have friends or loved ones who suffer from mental health issues shouldn’t have to see your crass and offensive remarks, which is why Phil removed them.
This is Phil’s board. He makes the rules. If you don’t like them then piss off. [Post edited 2 Nov 2022 9:58]
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or just piss off anyway. The guy doesn't seem to know any other way of communicating other than being offensive about people. |  |
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| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 13:48 - Nov 2 with 2310 views | StokieBlue |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 13:41 - Nov 2 by blueasfook |
or just piss off anyway. The guy doesn't seem to know any other way of communicating other than being offensive about people. |
So exactly like you then?
The number of offensive things you've posted on here since your return which have had to be removed is far above anyone else I can think of.
Not defending Harry who I do feel goes well over the line, just pointing out the hypocrisy of your post.
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| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 14:13 - Nov 2 with 2245 views | monytowbray |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 14:04 - Oct 31 by Darth_Koont |
Indeed. Harry is no progressive. He just seems to be unhealthily (and sometimes offensively) obsessed with red vs blue politics. [Post edited 31 Oct 2022 14:05]
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Also incredibly disingenuous to claim the board progressives are fine with it and haven’t called him out. I have at least twice, sure you and many others have too.
Unlike say, the actual true claim that Glassers was happy to call up a questionable comment from Bankster about transphobia but when his posting allies are being ACTUALLY transphobic he’s no where to be seen.
Problem with the sh1t throwing that is so heavily promoted within his side of politics is it doesn’t take long to find the actual cognitive dissonance. But I think Glassers knows this therefore disingenuous would be the correct term. |  |
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| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 16:24 - Nov 2 with 2174 views | HARRY10 |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 11:54 - Nov 2 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Have to disagree here - you are conflating two different things. Nobody’s has jumped in to defend Farage - everyone knows he’s a C.
But that doesn’t give him the right to make jokes about mental health and suicide. It’s not funny and actually quite upsetting that he thinks it is. No more amusing than than his previous jokes mocking the blind or Jehovah’s Witness. He’s had multiple offensive posts pulled - quite frankly he’s a b3llend whoever he votes for.
There’s a bit of “he’s on my team so I’ll let the bigotry pass”. Last I’ll say on it as I’ve put him on ignore but hopefully others will continue to call out his bigotry. |
Given you never read the post, you claiming that I made jokes " about mental health and suicide " is exceedingly stupid, even for you.
I have not had multiple posts removed. Nor mocked the blind. It was a comment about Stevie Wonder. I have utter contempt for such mental parasites as the Jehovahs Witnesses, and the damage they cause.
Perhaps you righties might be better to spend your time reading stuff like this
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/dwp-benefit-death-suicide-reports
Or would rather we had some distraction to divert people from reading about such stuff. Vulnerable people driven to suicide by the actions of a rightie government. Never mind the tens of thousands of others put through hideous stress as this government tries to find replacements to cover for the hundreds of thousands of EU workers blocked, through pandering to you righties.
There are no doubt thousands who will be contemplating suicide as the only way out, caused for the callous acts of a rightie government.
They won't however decide the answer is to try to burn alive children and others. Something righties on the internet have praised. This cretin was a hero, they claim. A true Patriot, not a suicide bomber.
They have different coloured skin. Though I realise that comment will no doubt set you righties off with squeaks of racism.
Because if you really were concerned with suicide and mental health then you would be railing against a government that is the cause of so much stress.. but then these subjects are little more than sticks to try to deflect from the government by some spurious nonsense about what I think.
And that's it from me. Feel free to make up anything else, as you no doubt will. |  | | |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 18:15 - Nov 2 with 2134 views | DJR |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 14:13 - Nov 2 by monytowbray |
Also incredibly disingenuous to claim the board progressives are fine with it and haven’t called him out. I have at least twice, sure you and many others have too.
Unlike say, the actual true claim that Glassers was happy to call up a questionable comment from Bankster about transphobia but when his posting allies are being ACTUALLY transphobic he’s no where to be seen.
Problem with the sh1t throwing that is so heavily promoted within his side of politics is it doesn’t take long to find the actual cognitive dissonance. But I think Glassers knows this therefore disingenuous would be the correct term. |
Without wishing to interfere in the current spat, I've never really liked the term progressive as someone from the left. I think it must be because I wasn't really aware of the term until Nick Clegg started using it to excess. Indeed, if the expression includes someone like him, count me out. |  | | |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 18:20 - Nov 2 with 2131 views | PhilTWTD |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 07:12 - Nov 2 by GlasgowBlue |
That’s simply not true Harry. Phil removed your offensive post. Not me. I’m not aware of anyone reporting your post to Phil. He saw it and removed it. The context was completely different to your other post which has not been removed.
You mocked suicide and people with mental health issues. Over the years we have had a number of board members bravely talk about their struggles with mental health issues. I posted about my own daughter who was self harming during lockdown. Tractorboyjames has posted above that your post was offensive and a little too close to home. People with mental health issues or those of us who have friends or loved ones who suffer from mental health issues shouldn’t have to see your crass and offensive remarks, which is why Phil removed them.
This is Phil’s board. He makes the rules. If you don’t like them then piss off. [Post edited 2 Nov 2022 9:58]
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Someone reported it and as there were a few negative comments about it I removed it. |  | | |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 20:07 - Nov 2 with 2064 views | monytowbray |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 18:15 - Nov 2 by DJR |
Without wishing to interfere in the current spat, I've never really liked the term progressive as someone from the left. I think it must be because I wasn't really aware of the term until Nick Clegg started using it to excess. Indeed, if the expression includes someone like him, count me out. |
To Glassers any libertarian movement slightly less Thatchery than Thatcher is the left and anything further left of that he’ll smear out of fear. | |
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| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 21:50 - Nov 2 with 2013 views | DJR |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 18:32 - Nov 1 by DJR |
It looks like the attack was hate-filled as counter-terrorism police are now involved, and from the article below it looks like the man was a racist. Interesting to know where the mental health story came from. In any event, it seems premature for Sue Ellen to have stoked tensions by referring to invasion when the full picture of the reason for the attack had not emerged.
https://inews.co.uk/news/crime/suspect-dover-petrol-bomb-attack-counter-terror-p |
More details emerge which further call into question Sue Ellen's racist rhetoric. Also, rather strange that it only emerged after she spoke in the Commons that two people had been injured in the attack. It seems to me she was deliberately trying to play down the incident. But then again, the attacker was "one of us" to use the rhetoric that people like him use.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/02/migrant-centre-attacker-planned-
https://hopenothate.org.uk/2022/11/02/dover-attackers-twitter-reveals-strong-sup
EDIT: Hope Not Hate has said that it has recorded 165 incidents of activity from far-right and anti-refugee activists at immigration facilities so far this year which makes Home Secretary's stance even more chilling. [Post edited 2 Nov 2022 22:01]
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| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 22:12 - Nov 2 with 1992 views | PassionNotAnger |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 20:07 - Nov 2 by monytowbray |
To Glassers any libertarian movement slightly less Thatchery than Thatcher is the left and anything further left of that he’ll smear out of fear. |
Classic TWTD, a pile on about inappropriate comments for a controversial poster, yet not one single comment against a “ “popular” poster (Lucan) defending the nasty racial stereotyping (and some just blatant racist) WhatsApp messages about Sunak on a thread with hundreds of views.
Clearly being upset and speaking out about racism and prejudice isn’t required if you like the poster in question | | | |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 22:20 - Nov 2 with 1910 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 22:12 - Nov 2 by PassionNotAnger |
Classic TWTD, a pile on about inappropriate comments for a controversial poster, yet not one single comment against a “ “popular” poster (Lucan) defending the nasty racial stereotyping (and some just blatant racist) WhatsApp messages about Sunak on a thread with hundreds of views.
Clearly being upset and speaking out about racism and prejudice isn’t required if you like the poster in question |
Do you come on here for the sole reason of making a pratt of yourself?
Anybody else seen by GlasgowBlue 31 Oct 2022 7:15That’s false equivalence to compare a bit of age old rivalry banter between the British and the French, with racial stereotypes and tropes against a BAME community who have been othered and dehumanised for centuries.
That’s twice in less than a week that you’ve waded in with your size fives and ended up looking foolish. [Post edited 2 Nov 2022 22:21]
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| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 03:49 - Nov 3 with 1901 views | monytowbray |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 22:12 - Nov 2 by PassionNotAnger |
Classic TWTD, a pile on about inappropriate comments for a controversial poster, yet not one single comment against a “ “popular” poster (Lucan) defending the nasty racial stereotyping (and some just blatant racist) WhatsApp messages about Sunak on a thread with hundreds of views.
Clearly being upset and speaking out about racism and prejudice isn’t required if you like the poster in question |
Yeah but REFUGEE ACTION AVATAR. “Slacktivism” or something. | |
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| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 07:15 - Nov 3 with 1804 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 03:49 - Nov 3 by monytowbray |
Yeah but REFUGEE ACTION AVATAR. “Slacktivism” or something. |
Hmmm. Some people regularly supply food, clothing and toys to refugee support groups. Some people raise money and regularly donate to refugee support groups. Some people have marched at protests on Westminster in support of refugees, have engaged with refugees face to face and heard their stories.
Whilst other people have bitch and moan on a football message board.
edited due to crass and insensitive remarks made towards Callis for which I apologise. [Post edited 3 Nov 2022 10:33]
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| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 09:19 - Nov 3 with 1819 views | monytowbray |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 07:15 - Nov 3 by GlasgowBlue |
Hmmm. Some people regularly supply food, clothing and toys to refugee support groups. Some people raise money and regularly donate to refugee support groups. Some people have marched at protests on Westminster in support of refugees, have engaged with refugees face to face and heard their stories.
Whilst other people have bitch and moan on a football message board.
edited due to crass and insensitive remarks made towards Callis for which I apologise. [Post edited 3 Nov 2022 10:33]
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Ha, I’m glad my mental health during lockdown after my time in London (which you know nothing about) is something you think is worthy to have a pop at. Classy as ever. And what does that have to do with the matter at hand exactly? What does leaving London pre-lockdown to not be stuck in a place with little escape and the location of considerable previous trauma have do to with refugees? Desperate. You are ironically proving my point with such bile, which was exactly why I posted the quote “Slacktivism” in the first place - seems you are happy to accuse others of it (wrongly should I add) but expect us all to revel in your character when you put a picture on the internet.
Would you like to remind the forum what you did during lockdown v1? Which was rally a harassment campaign against me. POLITICAL POINT SCORING. REVELLING IN THE DEAD. Etc. For simply pointing out obvious cronyism, flawed science from Tufton St and failures of government that led to needless death. Actually you praised Rishi almost in tears because your business or something. I was right. You on the other hand defended them and goaded me with abuse to the point of me getting a temporary ban.
We all saw it. You’ve spent years supporting Brexit and the Tories. You have far more blood on your hands than updating your avatar or the odd charity run can undo.
You were a actually a considerable and vocal cheerleader for Brexit too, with your butterfly flagshagging Spectator avatar. Own your past sh1t if you want to start claiming you care or f**k off quite frankly, you don’t get to rebrand to save face. [Post edited 3 Nov 2022 9:22]
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| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 09:45 - Nov 3 with 1800 views | noggin |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 09:19 - Nov 3 by monytowbray |
Ha, I’m glad my mental health during lockdown after my time in London (which you know nothing about) is something you think is worthy to have a pop at. Classy as ever. And what does that have to do with the matter at hand exactly? What does leaving London pre-lockdown to not be stuck in a place with little escape and the location of considerable previous trauma have do to with refugees? Desperate. You are ironically proving my point with such bile, which was exactly why I posted the quote “Slacktivism” in the first place - seems you are happy to accuse others of it (wrongly should I add) but expect us all to revel in your character when you put a picture on the internet.
Would you like to remind the forum what you did during lockdown v1? Which was rally a harassment campaign against me. POLITICAL POINT SCORING. REVELLING IN THE DEAD. Etc. For simply pointing out obvious cronyism, flawed science from Tufton St and failures of government that led to needless death. Actually you praised Rishi almost in tears because your business or something. I was right. You on the other hand defended them and goaded me with abuse to the point of me getting a temporary ban.
We all saw it. You’ve spent years supporting Brexit and the Tories. You have far more blood on your hands than updating your avatar or the odd charity run can undo.
You were a actually a considerable and vocal cheerleader for Brexit too, with your butterfly flagshagging Spectator avatar. Own your past sh1t if you want to start claiming you care or f**k off quite frankly, you don’t get to rebrand to save face. [Post edited 3 Nov 2022 9:22]
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Pop him on ignore mate, I did and the forum is much more enjoyable. |  |
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| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 09:48 - Nov 3 with 1751 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 09:19 - Nov 3 by monytowbray |
Ha, I’m glad my mental health during lockdown after my time in London (which you know nothing about) is something you think is worthy to have a pop at. Classy as ever. And what does that have to do with the matter at hand exactly? What does leaving London pre-lockdown to not be stuck in a place with little escape and the location of considerable previous trauma have do to with refugees? Desperate. You are ironically proving my point with such bile, which was exactly why I posted the quote “Slacktivism” in the first place - seems you are happy to accuse others of it (wrongly should I add) but expect us all to revel in your character when you put a picture on the internet.
Would you like to remind the forum what you did during lockdown v1? Which was rally a harassment campaign against me. POLITICAL POINT SCORING. REVELLING IN THE DEAD. Etc. For simply pointing out obvious cronyism, flawed science from Tufton St and failures of government that led to needless death. Actually you praised Rishi almost in tears because your business or something. I was right. You on the other hand defended them and goaded me with abuse to the point of me getting a temporary ban.
We all saw it. You’ve spent years supporting Brexit and the Tories. You have far more blood on your hands than updating your avatar or the odd charity run can undo.
You were a actually a considerable and vocal cheerleader for Brexit too, with your butterfly flagshagging Spectator avatar. Own your past sh1t if you want to start claiming you care or f**k off quite frankly, you don’t get to rebrand to save face. [Post edited 3 Nov 2022 9:22]
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That post demonstrates perfectly that you are a man with a fork in a world of soup. I bid you good day. | |
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| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 10:00 - Nov 3 with 1768 views | monytowbray |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 09:48 - Nov 3 by GlasgowBlue |
That post demonstrates perfectly that you are a man with a fork in a world of soup. I bid you good day. |
Yeah, nothing to address. Pretend it didn't happen. Glassers has checked his Excel sheet of historic thread links for rebuttal and realised even he can't spin his way out of that take.
Utter disingenious tvvat. | |
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| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 10:06 - Nov 3 with 1763 views | leitrimblue |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 07:15 - Nov 3 by GlasgowBlue |
Hmmm. Some people regularly supply food, clothing and toys to refugee support groups. Some people raise money and regularly donate to refugee support groups. Some people have marched at protests on Westminster in support of refugees, have engaged with refugees face to face and heard their stories.
Whilst other people have bitch and moan on a football message board.
edited due to crass and insensitive remarks made towards Callis for which I apologise. [Post edited 3 Nov 2022 10:33]
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'People with mental health issues or those of us who have friends or loved ones who suffer from mental health issues shouldn't have to see your crass and offensive remarks' (GB 2022) |  | | |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 10:25 - Nov 3 with 1742 views | giant_stow |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 10:06 - Nov 3 by leitrimblue |
'People with mental health issues or those of us who have friends or loved ones who suffer from mental health issues shouldn't have to see your crass and offensive remarks' (GB 2022) |
this is a fair point GB |  |
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| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 10:32 - Nov 3 with 1696 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 10:25 - Nov 3 by giant_stow |
this is a fair point GB |
It probably is and I apologise to Callis for my remarks. I didn't consider the mental health issue being the reason he left London. I remembered it as being because Boris Johnson was letting covid rip through London.
Agai, if Callis left due to mental health issues then I own those remarks, won't shy away from them and apologise unreservedly.
I was angry at him calling into question my commitment to Refugee Action and didn't consider the wider implication of my post.
I have since edited. | |
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| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 13:39 - Nov 3 with 1644 views | PassionNotAnger |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 22:20 - Nov 2 by GlasgowBlue |
Do you come on here for the sole reason of making a pratt of yourself?
Anybody else seen by GlasgowBlue 31 Oct 2022 7:15That’s false equivalence to compare a bit of age old rivalry banter between the British and the French, with racial stereotypes and tropes against a BAME community who have been othered and dehumanised for centuries.
That’s twice in less than a week that you’ve waded in with your size fives and ended up looking foolish. [Post edited 2 Nov 2022 22:21]
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You really are a wolf in sheeps clothing aren’t you? A thoroughly unpleasant individual to anyone that doesn’t confirm to your thought processes. You previously indicated you weren’t going to engage further with me after I pointed out your contradiction and hypocrisy. Might be best if you actually stick to that given my post on this thread wasnt in anyway directed at you. | | | |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 14:47 - Nov 3 with 1557 views | Seablu |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 10:00 - Nov 3 by monytowbray |
Yeah, nothing to address. Pretend it didn't happen. Glassers has checked his Excel sheet of historic thread links for rebuttal and realised even he can't spin his way out of that take.
Utter disingenious tvvat. |
He’s crawled off to lick his wounds and sulk for a bit before breezing back pretending nothing happened.
Classic MO of the narcissist. [Post edited 3 Nov 2022 14:52]
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| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 14:58 - Nov 3 with 1541 views | HARRY10 |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 12:45 - Nov 2 by Swansea_Blue |
As I mentioned to Glassers, it wasn’t obvious to me he was making jokes about mental health. We can’t resolve that though. Maybe I just read his second post wrongly or missed something; it’s certainly possible, as Harry gets a bit carried away (obsessive) in his rhetoric at times! |
To clarify. My second post was in response to the Daily Mails false claim that this man jad been issued with mental health. There was no eveidence for this, if only on the basis that the police had not even named him at that point. My six word (or so comment)was that it must have been a former ukip leader. I used his christaiun name. Nothing else.
That righties appeared a 'sqeaki' and a' bleatin long after Phil removed that post tells you all you need to know.
I have not had numerous posts removed. Odd that someone who has blocked me should know
I make no apologies for countering rightie lies forcefully, or mocking those constant lies.
Fairly early on in this thread I stated out how this individual had the intent to burn children. This has now been confirmed
"Andrew Leak said he planned to “obliterate Muslim children” an hour before his firebomb attack in Dover, it has been revealed, amid continuing questions about why it took police so long to treat the incident as terrorism.
In his final tweet before the attack, Leak, 66, said: “We will obliterate them Muslim children [they] are now our target. And there [sic] disgusting women will be targeted mothers and sisters Is burn alive”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/02/migrant-centre-attacker-planned-
Which has not been condemned by the righties. In fact, as with the Daily Mail's comments, he is seen as a hero, a patriot, a defender of England etc. i can only wonder (or perhaps not) what the response would be were this to have been a Muslim making this attack with the intent to kill and main white people.
Which is the real problem here. One in which righties are all too willing to make accusations before any facts have emerged, and judgements based on an anti brown, anti certain religion basis.
Unable to respond to such evidence their only ploy is to conjure up some 'yeh but Corbyn' rightie deflection. If you fall for that, that is your choice. just as it was the choice of those who believed Farage on Brexit. | | | |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 17:06 - Nov 3 with 1484 views | jaykay |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 14:47 - Nov 3 by Seablu |
He’s crawled off to lick his wounds and sulk for a bit before breezing back pretending nothing happened.
Classic MO of the narcissist. [Post edited 3 Nov 2022 14:52]
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| forensic experts say footers and spruces fingerprints were not found at the scene after the weekends rows |
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| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 17:27 - Nov 3 with 1476 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 17:06 - Nov 3 by jaykay |
careful retract and retract will be summoned soon to down vote this |
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| Attack at UK border force new centre in Dover on 17:31 - Nov 3 with 1477 views | Swansea_Blue |
Blimey, wish I'd not resurrected this now. Stand down everyone lol.
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