| Should we have purchased Camara? 16:38 - Dec 22 with 6507 views | FrimleyBlue |
Didn't know he'd already had surgery twice on the same area and now a third...
Quite surprising we spent funds on a player with quite an obvious problem area.
I kinda would understand the risk if it was a free agent but didn't we buy him for 5-700k? |  |
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| Should we have purchased Camara? on 16:41 - Dec 22 with 4641 views | Mullet |
Yes |  |
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| Should we have purchased Camara? on 16:41 - Dec 22 with 4644 views | BrockleyBlue78 |
Should of, would of, could of. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Every transfer involves risk. Hopefully he’ll come back hungrier than ever. |  | | |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 16:46 - Dec 22 with 4600 views | Keno |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 16:41 - Dec 22 by BrockleyBlue78 |
Should of, would of, could of. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Every transfer involves risk. Hopefully he’ll come back hungrier than ever. |
I hope the medical people get to him and sort his diet out
Being hungry wont help his recovery |  |
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| Should we have purchased Camara? on 16:46 - Dec 22 with 4600 views | J2BLUE |
We have a top medical team. He will have been fully assessed. It's just unfortunate. To think we could have somehow seen this coming isn't really fair. |  |
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| Should we have purchased Camara? on 16:54 - Dec 22 with 4522 views | ronnyd |
Perhaps he's a bit of a loose canon. |  | | |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 17:01 - Dec 22 with 4474 views | TalkingBlues |
He hadn't played a minute of football all season when we signed him on deadline day, alongside Ahadme, so there's a few questions to be asked, but I'm guessing this was a punt on somebody that could be a real asset when he managed to get fit and likely Championship ready, so I understand it from that perspective. However, I did not think it was a great signing at the time for £500k given his injury and lack of minutes and certainly not what we needed, which was someone to compete for a place in the side straight away.
You can look at this one from either viewpoint and make a fairly reasonable argument, but the facts are, that we took a gamble and it hasn't paid off, it happens. I think the main thing is, that we won't miss him, because at no stage has he been fit and up to speed, get somebody in January and we will have forgotten about him and hopefully he can sort his body out and be an asset in the future when we secure promotion. |  |
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| Should we have purchased Camara? on 17:08 - Dec 22 with 4430 views | Stenvict |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 16:41 - Dec 22 by BrockleyBlue78 |
Should of, would of, could of. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Every transfer involves risk. Hopefully he’ll come back hungrier than ever. |
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| Should we have purchased Camara? on 17:10 - Dec 22 with 4408 views | jas0999 |
It was a risk which didn’t work out … for this season.
Hopefully he will be fully fit for next season and remains a very good player who could be important for us moving forwards. | | | |
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| Should we have purchased Camara? on 17:16 - Dec 22 with 4366 views | noggin |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 17:08 - Dec 22 by Stenvict |
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You could of just left it. |  |
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| Should we have purchased Camara? on 17:30 - Dec 22 with 4296 views | pointofblue |
He was a risky signing considering he was injured at the time. Did we really need to go through with it? | |
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| Should we have purchased Camara? on 17:31 - Dec 22 with 4285 views | chicoazul |
Final Banter Era signing. |  |
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| Should we have purchased Camara? on 18:46 - Dec 22 with 4132 views | Radlett_blue |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 16:46 - Dec 22 by J2BLUE |
We have a top medical team. He will have been fully assessed. It's just unfortunate. To think we could have somehow seen this coming isn't really fair. |
We knew Camara was injured & unable to play when we signed him so you cannot say it was "unforseeable", especially as the adductor is a complex area of muscles. It was basically a gamble that went wrong, or an error of judgement. Also quite a lot of the old Town style of a player having an operation, trying to come back & then needing another operation. |  |
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| Should we have purchased Camara? on 19:00 - Dec 22 with 4069 views | ibbleobble |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 16:41 - Dec 22 by Mullet |
Yes |
How is the answer a, “yes”!? He’s barely played, is injury prone and is now out and unlikely to feature much again this season. If we go up, whether he then stays or not irrespective of contract length will have a big question mark over it. We were led to believe that our new recruitment network were far more astute than taking gambles.
It’s OK to say negative things about KM, he won’t hear you. This was a gamble and an ill conceived one. | | | |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 19:02 - Dec 22 with 4060 views | Defender110 |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 16:41 - Dec 22 by BrockleyBlue78 |
Should of, would of, could of. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Every transfer involves risk. Hopefully he’ll come back hungrier than ever. |
Agree. If all of this hadn't happened and he had been rattling in the goals and giving the opposition a tough time, we would have all been saying what a bargain he was. The signings made so far have been excellent and we are a world away from the shambles the club was in 18-24 months ago
We just need to trust McKenna and the management team. | | | |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 19:03 - Dec 22 with 4059 views | jayessess |
In order to contribute anything useful on this question I think you'd need a lot more information about his medical than we have access to. |  |
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| Should we have purchased Camara? on 19:10 - Dec 22 with 4014 views | Ely_Blue |
McKenna out!
Knew we shouldn’t have given him the job in the first place , another manager signing crocked players.
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| Should we have purchased Camara? on 19:10 - Dec 22 with 4013 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 16:46 - Dec 22 by J2BLUE |
We have a top medical team. He will have been fully assessed. It's just unfortunate. To think we could have somehow seen this coming isn't really fair. |
Not sure about that tbh. He was a deadline day signing with an existing injury, which hasn’t cured. I think it’s perfectly legitimate to question whether the medical was as thorough as it should have been. | |
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| Should we have purchased Camara? on 19:23 - Dec 22 with 3962 views | dickie |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 16:54 - Dec 22 by ronnyd |
Perhaps he's a bit of a loose canon. |
Shutter your mouth! | | | |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 19:41 - Dec 22 with 3885 views | Bobsthename |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 16:46 - Dec 22 by J2BLUE |
We have a top medical team. He will have been fully assessed. It's just unfortunate. To think we could have somehow seen this coming isn't really fair. |
Not playing for plymouth in their friendlies must of been a red flag unless they knew he was moving on but i see similarities to Huws i’m afraid not good for us. | | | |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 19:45 - Dec 22 with 3878 views | ITFC1977 |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 19:00 - Dec 22 by ibbleobble |
How is the answer a, “yes”!? He’s barely played, is injury prone and is now out and unlikely to feature much again this season. If we go up, whether he then stays or not irrespective of contract length will have a big question mark over it. We were led to believe that our new recruitment network were far more astute than taking gambles.
It’s OK to say negative things about KM, he won’t hear you. This was a gamble and an ill conceived one. |
Injury prone? He played 103 matches in 3 years for Crawley between 2017 and 2020 and then 80 matches between 2020 and 2022 for Plymouth. I think your injury prone is different to mine. But don’t let facts get in the way, I’m glad that this is the level we have to go to to be negative nowadays. COYB’S | | | |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 19:51 - Dec 22 with 3859 views | LeoMuff |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 19:45 - Dec 22 by ITFC1977 |
Injury prone? He played 103 matches in 3 years for Crawley between 2017 and 2020 and then 80 matches between 2020 and 2022 for Plymouth. I think your injury prone is different to mine. But don’t let facts get in the way, I’m glad that this is the level we have to go to to be negative nowadays. COYB’S |
As you point out he had a very good injury record and the vibe in the South West was that the injury was very minor or quite possibly a fictional one to expedite a move or prevent injury from devaluating his next contract.
He will have got a thorough medical on this and was clearly passed fit a month ago to play for us, it’s just bad luck and hopefully will be fixed with this surgery in time for our romp to the championship 😬 |  |
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| Should we have purchased Camara? on 20:06 - Dec 22 with 3801 views | ibbleobble |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 19:45 - Dec 22 by ITFC1977 |
Injury prone? He played 103 matches in 3 years for Crawley between 2017 and 2020 and then 80 matches between 2020 and 2022 for Plymouth. I think your injury prone is different to mine. But don’t let facts get in the way, I’m glad that this is the level we have to go to to be negative nowadays. COYB’S |
He’s had a persistent groin injury for the last year which now needs surgery. Prior to that he’s had ankle and hamstring injuries. If you go in for surgery, that’s pretty major.
It’s not being negative, it’s simply stating the obvious. He’s had priors and now needs surgery to address the priors, a recurring injury, hence injury prone as his groin is suspect.
If it’s facts you’re after, you’d be best to leave Wikipedia alone. | | | |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 21:05 - Dec 22 with 3610 views | ITFC1977 |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 20:06 - Dec 22 by ibbleobble |
He’s had a persistent groin injury for the last year which now needs surgery. Prior to that he’s had ankle and hamstring injuries. If you go in for surgery, that’s pretty major.
It’s not being negative, it’s simply stating the obvious. He’s had priors and now needs surgery to address the priors, a recurring injury, hence injury prone as his groin is suspect.
If it’s facts you’re after, you’d be best to leave Wikipedia alone. |
When you say he’s had a persistent groin injury for a year, he’s been with us for 6 months so he had a groin injury for a max of 6 months so no real red flag there. It seems like you’re including his time here with your evaluation which obviously isn’t fair, your original point was criticising our new “ recruitment network “. If you’re expecting them to be able to read the future I think your expectations are slightly high for a league 1 club. | | | |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 21:16 - Dec 22 with 3560 views | ITFC1977 |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 20:06 - Dec 22 by ibbleobble |
He’s had a persistent groin injury for the last year which now needs surgery. Prior to that he’s had ankle and hamstring injuries. If you go in for surgery, that’s pretty major.
It’s not being negative, it’s simply stating the obvious. He’s had priors and now needs surgery to address the priors, a recurring injury, hence injury prone as his groin is suspect.
If it’s facts you’re after, you’d be best to leave Wikipedia alone. |
I think how much he’s played in the last 5 years, is a good indication as to how injury prone he is( obviously I looked on Wikipedia to get them details, perhaps you should have). Your ankle and hamstring claims, I don’t know the extent of them, although they have no baring on his time here, and hasn’t affected his game time over the last 5 years so couldn’t have been too substantial.
It was a risk, hasn’t paid off so far, we’ve took one of our main rivals best players ( Plymouth forums were gutted he left) and we’re still second. But if you want to blame the “ recruitment network “ and you think that makes sense, no worries | | | |
| Should we have purchased Camara? on 21:30 - Dec 22 with 3501 views | SheffordBlue |
While he has day to day running of the club Mark Ashton has spoken before about having to provide robust justification for some decisions to the owners via the board. You would think with the risk of signing of an injured player that this is the sort of decision that would have led to a discussion between CEO and Chairman of the risks/rewards of doing it.
I would be surprised if there weren't some checks and balances in place here to ensure that informed decisions were made around significant expenditure. | |
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