| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD 16:57 - Mar 10 with 27586 views | SitfcB |
What a load of twaddle, fair play to him for sticking to his guns, can imagine he disagreed with them when they told him to probably delete the tweet and not to comment in the future. [Post edited 10 Mar 2023 16:58]
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 12:57 - Mar 11 with 2411 views | xrayspecs |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 12:00 - Mar 11 by Herbivore |
No, because he's still a BBC contractor (I believe he's a contractor rather than employee) and their guidelines on social media use cover personal social media use. Saying that views are your own isn't really the disclaimer people think it is, if your social media posts cross a line your employer can still take action. In this instance there are very real questions about whether a sports presenter sharing a view on government policy from his personal Twitter account actually breach the BBC's guidelines. Have seen a few posts on social media suggesting that he's not breached their guidelines. |
What is the difference between criticising human rights abuse during World Cup and current government immigration policy? |  | | |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 13:41 - Mar 11 with 2328 views | jacobnikons |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 07:06 - Mar 11 by DanTheMan |
So you're allowed to state political views, as long as those political views align with the BBC / Government...
Doesn't sound very impartial to me. |
or as in the case of a lot of the 'tolerant' left types on here as long as your political views with their views on the twtd board. Seriously, whatever your political persuasion, anyone who seriously thinks Suella Braverman is acting like a 1930's Nazi is sick. It is insulting all those who suffered under REAL Nazis. This whole thread is not really a football post anymore, its now a political one and like so many on this board their is only one political view allowed on here. The comments like 'Scumbags' and 'Facists' seen in this thread are typical of some of the long time anti brexit, anti tory loud mouths on here, many who embrace the cancel culture when it suits them but not their fellow champagne socialist, leading anti brexit remoaner and viscount vitrue signaller lineker. For what it's worth, I don't think he should be sacked because everyone is entitled to an opinion but when you are paid by a ridiculous, outdated institution funded by taxpayer which is supposed to be impartial and show no political bias, then where do you draw the line? If anything it shows it is time the BBC was defunded because it has not been impartial for years. If you want your 'news' or' your political echo chamber' then watch the likes of Channel 4 and Sky if you are to the left or read the Guardian or the Mirror and watch GB news or TalkTV and read the Telegraph and Mail if you are to the right. [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 13:44]
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 13:45 - Mar 11 with 2312 views | noggin |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 13:41 - Mar 11 by jacobnikons |
or as in the case of a lot of the 'tolerant' left types on here as long as your political views with their views on the twtd board. Seriously, whatever your political persuasion, anyone who seriously thinks Suella Braverman is acting like a 1930's Nazi is sick. It is insulting all those who suffered under REAL Nazis. This whole thread is not really a football post anymore, its now a political one and like so many on this board their is only one political view allowed on here. The comments like 'Scumbags' and 'Facists' seen in this thread are typical of some of the long time anti brexit, anti tory loud mouths on here, many who embrace the cancel culture when it suits them but not their fellow champagne socialist, leading anti brexit remoaner and viscount vitrue signaller lineker. For what it's worth, I don't think he should be sacked because everyone is entitled to an opinion but when you are paid by a ridiculous, outdated institution funded by taxpayer which is supposed to be impartial and show no political bias, then where do you draw the line? If anything it shows it is time the BBC was defunded because it has not been impartial for years. If you want your 'news' or' your political echo chamber' then watch the likes of Channel 4 and Sky if you are to the left or read the Guardian or the Mirror and watch GB news or TalkTV and read the Telegraph and Mail if you are to the right. [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 13:44]
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LOL, tell us you voted tory/brexit, without saying you voted tory/brexit. |  |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 13:46 - Mar 11 with 2305 views | Ryorry |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 13:41 - Mar 11 by jacobnikons |
or as in the case of a lot of the 'tolerant' left types on here as long as your political views with their views on the twtd board. Seriously, whatever your political persuasion, anyone who seriously thinks Suella Braverman is acting like a 1930's Nazi is sick. It is insulting all those who suffered under REAL Nazis. This whole thread is not really a football post anymore, its now a political one and like so many on this board their is only one political view allowed on here. The comments like 'Scumbags' and 'Facists' seen in this thread are typical of some of the long time anti brexit, anti tory loud mouths on here, many who embrace the cancel culture when it suits them but not their fellow champagne socialist, leading anti brexit remoaner and viscount vitrue signaller lineker. For what it's worth, I don't think he should be sacked because everyone is entitled to an opinion but when you are paid by a ridiculous, outdated institution funded by taxpayer which is supposed to be impartial and show no political bias, then where do you draw the line? If anything it shows it is time the BBC was defunded because it has not been impartial for years. If you want your 'news' or' your political echo chamber' then watch the likes of Channel 4 and Sky if you are to the left or read the Guardian or the Mirror and watch GB news or TalkTV and read the Telegraph and Mail if you are to the right. [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 13:44]
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Honestly, where to start with this ...
As I'm off out, I'll just suggest you read what Lineker *actually* said ...
Btw my family suffered & fled from the Nazis to the UK; my aunt who I'm named after didn't make it & died in a concentration camp; and far from being insulted by Lineker, I aplaud & thank him for speaking out. [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 13:51]
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 13:48 - Mar 11 with 2293 views | eireblue |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 13:41 - Mar 11 by jacobnikons |
or as in the case of a lot of the 'tolerant' left types on here as long as your political views with their views on the twtd board. Seriously, whatever your political persuasion, anyone who seriously thinks Suella Braverman is acting like a 1930's Nazi is sick. It is insulting all those who suffered under REAL Nazis. This whole thread is not really a football post anymore, its now a political one and like so many on this board their is only one political view allowed on here. The comments like 'Scumbags' and 'Facists' seen in this thread are typical of some of the long time anti brexit, anti tory loud mouths on here, many who embrace the cancel culture when it suits them but not their fellow champagne socialist, leading anti brexit remoaner and viscount vitrue signaller lineker. For what it's worth, I don't think he should be sacked because everyone is entitled to an opinion but when you are paid by a ridiculous, outdated institution funded by taxpayer which is supposed to be impartial and show no political bias, then where do you draw the line? If anything it shows it is time the BBC was defunded because it has not been impartial for years. If you want your 'news' or' your political echo chamber' then watch the likes of Channel 4 and Sky if you are to the left or read the Guardian or the Mirror and watch GB news or TalkTV and read the Telegraph and Mail if you are to the right. [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 13:44]
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 13:55 - Mar 11 with 2246 views | Whos_blue |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 13:46 - Mar 11 by Ryorry |
Honestly, where to start with this ...
As I'm off out, I'll just suggest you read what Lineker *actually* said ...
Btw my family suffered & fled from the Nazis to the UK; my aunt who I'm named after didn't make it & died in a concentration camp; and far from being insulted by Lineker, I aplaud & thank him for speaking out. [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 13:51]
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"As I'm off out, I'll just suggest you read what Lineker *actually* said ..."
You're really expecting them to read the facts after posting that bobbins?!? [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 14:02]
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 13:58 - Mar 11 with 2238 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 23:10 - Mar 10 by Swansea_Blue |
^This. This is what it's actually all about, but we can all be a bit guilty of falling into the outrage trap. And on that note, I enjoyed this (sorry if it's already been posted). Sound on:
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I'm with the dog! |  |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 13:58 - Mar 11 with 2236 views | noggin |
It's just been announced that Tommy Robinson and Nigel Farage will be presenting MOTD from now. | |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 13:58 - Mar 11 with 2236 views | Keno |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 13:41 - Mar 11 by jacobnikons |
or as in the case of a lot of the 'tolerant' left types on here as long as your political views with their views on the twtd board. Seriously, whatever your political persuasion, anyone who seriously thinks Suella Braverman is acting like a 1930's Nazi is sick. It is insulting all those who suffered under REAL Nazis. This whole thread is not really a football post anymore, its now a political one and like so many on this board their is only one political view allowed on here. The comments like 'Scumbags' and 'Facists' seen in this thread are typical of some of the long time anti brexit, anti tory loud mouths on here, many who embrace the cancel culture when it suits them but not their fellow champagne socialist, leading anti brexit remoaner and viscount vitrue signaller lineker. For what it's worth, I don't think he should be sacked because everyone is entitled to an opinion but when you are paid by a ridiculous, outdated institution funded by taxpayer which is supposed to be impartial and show no political bias, then where do you draw the line? If anything it shows it is time the BBC was defunded because it has not been impartial for years. If you want your 'news' or' your political echo chamber' then watch the likes of Channel 4 and Sky if you are to the left or read the Guardian or the Mirror and watch GB news or TalkTV and read the Telegraph and Mail if you are to the right. [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 13:44]
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As someone whose family suffered 5 years of Nazi occupation, with a relative who is honoured for the opposition to that leading to her death, I applaud Lineker speaking out. |  |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 13:59 - Mar 11 with 2217 views | Whos_blue |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 13:48 - Mar 11 by eireblue |
What did you think when a holocaust survivor did confront Braverman on her use of language? |
I very much doubt stuff like that would ever come up on their news/twitter feed algorithms based on that nonsense.
That said, free speach is at the crux of this, so all views welcome I suppose. | |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 14:14 - Mar 11 with 2147 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 13:41 - Mar 11 by jacobnikons |
or as in the case of a lot of the 'tolerant' left types on here as long as your political views with their views on the twtd board. Seriously, whatever your political persuasion, anyone who seriously thinks Suella Braverman is acting like a 1930's Nazi is sick. It is insulting all those who suffered under REAL Nazis. This whole thread is not really a football post anymore, its now a political one and like so many on this board their is only one political view allowed on here. The comments like 'Scumbags' and 'Facists' seen in this thread are typical of some of the long time anti brexit, anti tory loud mouths on here, many who embrace the cancel culture when it suits them but not their fellow champagne socialist, leading anti brexit remoaner and viscount vitrue signaller lineker. For what it's worth, I don't think he should be sacked because everyone is entitled to an opinion but when you are paid by a ridiculous, outdated institution funded by taxpayer which is supposed to be impartial and show no political bias, then where do you draw the line? If anything it shows it is time the BBC was defunded because it has not been impartial for years. If you want your 'news' or' your political echo chamber' then watch the likes of Channel 4 and Sky if you are to the left or read the Guardian or the Mirror and watch GB news or TalkTV and read the Telegraph and Mail if you are to the right. [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 13:44]
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Marching into Facism and still some bury their heads in the sand.
At least, a reasonable number who used to argue this was an exaggeration are opening their eyes to it now.
This censorship only goes to reinforce the reality of the situation. | |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 14:16 - Mar 11 with 2123 views | DanTheMan |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 13:41 - Mar 11 by jacobnikons |
or as in the case of a lot of the 'tolerant' left types on here as long as your political views with their views on the twtd board. Seriously, whatever your political persuasion, anyone who seriously thinks Suella Braverman is acting like a 1930's Nazi is sick. It is insulting all those who suffered under REAL Nazis. This whole thread is not really a football post anymore, its now a political one and like so many on this board their is only one political view allowed on here. The comments like 'Scumbags' and 'Facists' seen in this thread are typical of some of the long time anti brexit, anti tory loud mouths on here, many who embrace the cancel culture when it suits them but not their fellow champagne socialist, leading anti brexit remoaner and viscount vitrue signaller lineker. For what it's worth, I don't think he should be sacked because everyone is entitled to an opinion but when you are paid by a ridiculous, outdated institution funded by taxpayer which is supposed to be impartial and show no political bias, then where do you draw the line? If anything it shows it is time the BBC was defunded because it has not been impartial for years. If you want your 'news' or' your political echo chamber' then watch the likes of Channel 4 and Sky if you are to the left or read the Guardian or the Mirror and watch GB news or TalkTV and read the Telegraph and Mail if you are to the right. [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 13:44]
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That has almost nothing to do with what I responded to or said. |  |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 14:21 - Mar 11 with 2080 views | DJR |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 13:41 - Mar 11 by jacobnikons |
or as in the case of a lot of the 'tolerant' left types on here as long as your political views with their views on the twtd board. Seriously, whatever your political persuasion, anyone who seriously thinks Suella Braverman is acting like a 1930's Nazi is sick. It is insulting all those who suffered under REAL Nazis. This whole thread is not really a football post anymore, its now a political one and like so many on this board their is only one political view allowed on here. The comments like 'Scumbags' and 'Facists' seen in this thread are typical of some of the long time anti brexit, anti tory loud mouths on here, many who embrace the cancel culture when it suits them but not their fellow champagne socialist, leading anti brexit remoaner and viscount vitrue signaller lineker. For what it's worth, I don't think he should be sacked because everyone is entitled to an opinion but when you are paid by a ridiculous, outdated institution funded by taxpayer which is supposed to be impartial and show no political bias, then where do you draw the line? If anything it shows it is time the BBC was defunded because it has not been impartial for years. If you want your 'news' or' your political echo chamber' then watch the likes of Channel 4 and Sky if you are to the left or read the Guardian or the Mirror and watch GB news or TalkTV and read the Telegraph and Mail if you are to the right. [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 13:44]
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You are fully entitled to your view but I do wonder if those on the right have much to complain about.
They've had 13 years of the Tories and Brexit and much of the media in their pocket but are still moaning that things aren't fair for them. |  | | |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 14:33 - Mar 11 with 2042 views | PioneerBlue |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 07:06 - Mar 11 by DanTheMan |
So you're allowed to state political views, as long as those political views align with the BBC / Government...
Doesn't sound very impartial to me. |
I work for a company and I am not allowed to use social media nor say certain things in public forums that are not in the interests of the company. Thems the rules. I know there are consequences in the event that I decide to operate outside the policy/guidelines. In themselves they don’t stop me doing / saying anything but it’s clear there is recourse by the company in the event that I wish to express my freedom to speak.
It’s not rocket science. Is it?
My issue with Lineker is not really what he says, you can take or leave. It is the fact he’s paid by tax payers to opine on football related matters, he is choosing to use the platform the beeb has afforded him to build profile and now what he says is hurting the beebs legal requirements to be impartial. Lineker was a fabulous footballer. If he wants to use the personality and platform then he should run for election as an mp or create a pressure group. He would probably get a lot of votes! [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 21:13]
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 14:37 - Mar 11 with 2016 views | noggin |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 14:33 - Mar 11 by PioneerBlue |
I work for a company and I am not allowed to use social media nor say certain things in public forums that are not in the interests of the company. Thems the rules. I know there are consequences in the event that I decide to operate outside the policy/guidelines. In themselves they don’t stop me doing / saying anything but it’s clear there is recourse by the company in the event that I wish to express my freedom to speak.
It’s not rocket science. Is it?
My issue with Lineker is not really what he says, you can take or leave. It is the fact he’s paid by tax payers to opine on football related matters, he is choosing to use the platform the beeb has afforded him to build profile and now what he says is hurting the beebs legal requirements to be impartial. Lineker was a fabulous footballer. If he wants to use the personality and platform then he should run for election as an mp or create a pressure group. He would probably get a lot of votes! [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 21:13]
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That policy doesn't sound legal to me. Maybe I've been in Norway too long. | |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 14:52 - Mar 11 with 1970 views | Ryorry |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 14:33 - Mar 11 by PioneerBlue |
I work for a company and I am not allowed to use social media nor say certain things in public forums that are not in the interests of the company. Thems the rules. I know there are consequences in the event that I decide to operate outside the policy/guidelines. In themselves they don’t stop me doing / saying anything but it’s clear there is recourse by the company in the event that I wish to express my freedom to speak.
It’s not rocket science. Is it?
My issue with Lineker is not really what he says, you can take or leave. It is the fact he’s paid by tax payers to opine on football related matters, he is choosing to use the platform the beeb has afforded him to build profile and now what he says is hurting the beebs legal requirements to be impartial. Lineker was a fabulous footballer. If he wants to use the personality and platform then he should run for election as an mp or create a pressure group. He would probably get a lot of votes! [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 21:13]
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But you can use social media posting with an anonymous handle (PioneerBlue on here), ie one that doesn't identify you personally?
Say you signed up for Twitter as MisterX, made no reference to your company but did oppose its sector? For instance, if you worked for an oil producer but opposed the use of fossil fuels - surely you could do that, or do you have to make some sort of declaration - & get penalised if found out?
Apols for the questions, just curious. | |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 15:02 - Mar 11 with 1937 views | Zapers |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 14:33 - Mar 11 by PioneerBlue |
I work for a company and I am not allowed to use social media nor say certain things in public forums that are not in the interests of the company. Thems the rules. I know there are consequences in the event that I decide to operate outside the policy/guidelines. In themselves they don’t stop me doing / saying anything but it’s clear there is recourse by the company in the event that I wish to express my freedom to speak.
It’s not rocket science. Is it?
My issue with Lineker is not really what he says, you can take or leave. It is the fact he’s paid by tax payers to opine on football related matters, he is choosing to use the platform the beeb has afforded him to build profile and now what he says is hurting the beebs legal requirements to be impartial. Lineker was a fabulous footballer. If he wants to use the personality and platform then he should run for election as an mp or create a pressure group. He would probably get a lot of votes! [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 21:13]
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This, but you won't be heard. | | | |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 15:44 - Mar 11 with 1865 views | eireblue |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 14:33 - Mar 11 by PioneerBlue |
I work for a company and I am not allowed to use social media nor say certain things in public forums that are not in the interests of the company. Thems the rules. I know there are consequences in the event that I decide to operate outside the policy/guidelines. In themselves they don’t stop me doing / saying anything but it’s clear there is recourse by the company in the event that I wish to express my freedom to speak.
It’s not rocket science. Is it?
My issue with Lineker is not really what he says, you can take or leave. It is the fact he’s paid by tax payers to opine on football related matters, he is choosing to use the platform the beeb has afforded him to build profile and now what he says is hurting the beebs legal requirements to be impartial. Lineker was a fabulous footballer. If he wants to use the personality and platform then he should run for election as an mp or create a pressure group. He would probably get a lot of votes! [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 21:13]
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Lineker is allowed to use Social media, and didn’t say anything about the BBC.
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 15:59 - Mar 11 with 1842 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 14:33 - Mar 11 by PioneerBlue |
I work for a company and I am not allowed to use social media nor say certain things in public forums that are not in the interests of the company. Thems the rules. I know there are consequences in the event that I decide to operate outside the policy/guidelines. In themselves they don’t stop me doing / saying anything but it’s clear there is recourse by the company in the event that I wish to express my freedom to speak.
It’s not rocket science. Is it?
My issue with Lineker is not really what he says, you can take or leave. It is the fact he’s paid by tax payers to opine on football related matters, he is choosing to use the platform the beeb has afforded him to build profile and now what he says is hurting the beebs legal requirements to be impartial. Lineker was a fabulous footballer. If he wants to use the personality and platform then he should run for election as an mp or create a pressure group. He would probably get a lot of votes! [Post edited 11 Mar 2023 21:13]
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Couple of points;
"using the platform the beeb has afforded him to build profile"
I think all his years as a top flight and England striker probably afforded him that profile, not the BBC.
"now what he says is hurting beebs legal need to be impartial."
And yet they're not bothered about the countless other situations where there hasn't been impartiality as mentioned in this thread and others.
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 15:59 - Mar 11 with 1847 views | Whos_blue |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 15:02 - Mar 11 by Zapers |
This, but you won't be heard. |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 17:44 - Mar 11 with 1749 views | Keno |
do you think think thread might give Sitters his 10 pager? | |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 17:47 - Mar 11 with 1738 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 14:37 - Mar 11 by noggin |
That policy doesn't sound legal to me. Maybe I've been in Norway too long. |
Maybe this country has become a lot more Fascist. | |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 17:48 - Mar 11 with 1726 views | Herbivore |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 12:57 - Mar 11 by xrayspecs |
What is the difference between criticising human rights abuse during World Cup and current government immigration policy? |
The government are okay with the former but not the latter. Sadly the Beeb is currently being run by the Tories for the Tories. |  |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 17:52 - Mar 11 with 1689 views | Keno |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 17:48 - Mar 11 by Herbivore |
The government are okay with the former but not the latter. Sadly the Beeb is currently being run by the Tories for the Tories. |
Isnt that in the UK constitution....
Government of the Tories, by the Tories, for the Tories | |
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| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 17:52 - Mar 11 with 1690 views | Herbivore |
| Lineker to step back from presenting MOTD on 14:21 - Mar 11 by DJR |
You are fully entitled to your view but I do wonder if those on the right have much to complain about.
They've had 13 years of the Tories and Brexit and much of the media in their pocket but are still moaning that things aren't fair for them. |
Much easier than owning the failure and disaster they've wrought on the country. | |
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