| Oh Jeremy on 12:58 - Mar 27 with 5134 views | giant_stow |
just started reading and immediately got to '...in his posh Islington North seat.'
grr, lazy journo - Holloway road, Finsbury park and archway are definitely gentrifying, but are in no way posh. |  |
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| Oh Jeremy on 13:13 - Mar 27 with 5070 views | Ryorry |
That'll just divide Labour even further, the absolute last thing we need.
Silly move, they should have just let him carry on ploughing his own lonesome furrow, he would have self-destructed, & then quietly disappeared beneath the waves without any fuss or anyone else being blamed. |  |
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| Oh Jeremy on 13:15 - Mar 27 with 5070 views | blueasfook |
If he had an ounce of integrity or humility he would stand down anyway after the damage he did to the Labour party.
Only way to get rid of the bad smell of anti-semitism enablement is to banish it, it would seem. |  |
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| Oh Jeremy on 13:15 - Mar 27 with 5054 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Oh Jeremy on 12:58 - Mar 27 by giant_stow |
just started reading and immediately got to '...in his posh Islington North seat.'
grr, lazy journo - Holloway road, Finsbury park and archway are definitely gentrifying, but are in no way posh. |
Lazy journalism?…it’s the Sun…
I guess his house is probably worth ~3* the national average though. |  | | |
| Oh Jeremy on 13:20 - Mar 27 with 5011 views | Herbivore |
When the Sun are reporting on Labour in approving tones you know that Labour have shifted far too far rightwards. |  |
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| Oh Jeremy on 13:20 - Mar 27 with 4998 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Oh Jeremy on 13:13 - Mar 27 by Ryorry |
That'll just divide Labour even further, the absolute last thing we need.
Silly move, they should have just let him carry on ploughing his own lonesome furrow, he would have self-destructed, & then quietly disappeared beneath the waves without any fuss or anyone else being blamed. |
“ quietly disappeared beneath the waves without any fuss or anyone else being blamed”
Should have done that after losing a popularity contest to Teresa May…
Stepped aside, let someone else carry out his manifesto = election won/change enacted. | | | |
| Oh Jeremy on 13:28 - Mar 27 with 4959 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Oh Jeremy on 13:20 - Mar 27 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
“ quietly disappeared beneath the waves without any fuss or anyone else being blamed”
Should have done that after losing a popularity contest to Teresa May…
Stepped aside, let someone else carry out his manifesto = election won/change enacted. |
Maybe he feared that if he stepped aside, the person who following him wouldn't carry out his manifesto despite initially promising to...
I'm about to move to an area that's in Islington North, so looking forward to getting more of an insight to the CLP's views. |  | | |
| Oh Jeremy on 13:45 - Mar 27 with 4881 views | Blueschev |
| Oh Jeremy on 13:28 - Mar 27 by Clapham_Junction |
Maybe he feared that if he stepped aside, the person who following him wouldn't carry out his manifesto despite initially promising to...
I'm about to move to an area that's in Islington North, so looking forward to getting more of an insight to the CLP's views. |
I've yet to cancel the direct debit, but I'm struggling to justify remaining as a member to be honest. The current situation is ludicrous. |  | | |
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| Oh Jeremy on 13:57 - Mar 27 with 4808 views | leitrimblue |
No room for Socialists in the Labour party |  | | |
| Oh Jeremy on 14:10 - Mar 27 with 4715 views | leitrimblue |
It's what Jeremy Clarkson would have wanted | | | |
| Oh Jeremy on 14:11 - Mar 27 with 4702 views | Blueschev |
The purging of the left is frankly disgusting, and terrible for democracy in this country, which is already a bit of a sham. [Post edited 27 Mar 2023 14:12]
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| Oh Jeremy on 14:20 - Mar 27 with 4650 views | Herbivore |
| Oh Jeremy on 14:11 - Mar 27 by Blueschev |
The purging of the left is frankly disgusting, and terrible for democracy in this country, which is already a bit of a sham. [Post edited 27 Mar 2023 14:12]
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Anyone genuinely left wing, or even left of centre left, is once again politically homeless in the UK. | |
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| Oh Jeremy on 14:22 - Mar 27 with 4627 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Oh Jeremy on 14:20 - Mar 27 by Herbivore |
Anyone genuinely left wing, or even left of centre left, is once again politically homeless in the UK. |
Greens, SNP, Plaid, Communist Party of Britain? | | | |
| Oh Jeremy on 14:31 - Mar 27 with 4590 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Oh Jeremy on 14:22 - Mar 27 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Greens, SNP, Plaid, Communist Party of Britain? |
SNP? 48% of SNP members have just voted for Kate Forbes, a candidate whose views on same sex marriage and abortion would make Trump blush.
And the other 52% voted for a man who missed the vote on same sex marriage after coming under pressure from the religious right. |  |
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| Oh Jeremy on 14:31 - Mar 27 with 4592 views | Herbivore |
| Oh Jeremy on 14:22 - Mar 27 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Greens, SNP, Plaid, Communist Party of Britain? |
Greens are environmentalists which makes them left on some issues but not universally so. SNP are predominantly focused on independence and as their leadership campaign has shown, there is a real mixed bag of views within the party, many of which aren't left at all. Also can't vote for them unless you're in Scotland, same goes for Plaid Cymru. Communist Party of Britain don't have the clout to stand nationally (can't recall seeing them on a ballot to be honest). Given that we have right wing and centre right parties at a UK level, it's a worry that the left isn't really represented in the same way and is evidence of the continual drift rightwards in our politics. | |
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| Oh Jeremy on 14:35 - Mar 27 with 4575 views | Blueschev |
| Oh Jeremy on 14:22 - Mar 27 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Greens, SNP, Plaid, Communist Party of Britain? |
None of those parties will even be on the ballot in my constituency. Due to our undemocratic system, the idea that there is genuine choice is flawed at best. And now that Labour have decided to do the Tories dirty work for them and destroy the left, bothering to vote seems almost futile. It's all very depressing. | | | |
| Oh Jeremy on 14:47 - Mar 27 with 4520 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Oh Jeremy on 14:31 - Mar 27 by GlasgowBlue |
SNP? 48% of SNP members have just voted for Kate Forbes, a candidate whose views on same sex marriage and abortion would make Trump blush.
And the other 52% voted for a man who missed the vote on same sex marriage after coming under pressure from the religious right. |
You can be economically left and not socially progressive.
Nb. See Harry10. | | | |
| Oh Jeremy on 14:49 - Mar 27 with 4516 views | lowhouseblue |
| Oh Jeremy on 14:20 - Mar 27 by Herbivore |
Anyone genuinely left wing, or even left of centre left, is once again politically homeless in the UK. |
they could build their own home and see how many people vote for it. |  |
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| Oh Jeremy on 15:00 - Mar 27 with 4454 views | Blueschev |
| Oh Jeremy on 14:49 - Mar 27 by lowhouseblue |
they could build their own home and see how many people vote for it. |
I thought it was the left of the party that were the Stalinists. | | | |
| Oh Jeremy on 15:00 - Mar 27 with 4451 views | Herbivore |
| Oh Jeremy on 14:49 - Mar 27 by lowhouseblue |
they could build their own home and see how many people vote for it. |
You've already got the Tories, lowhouse, not sure why you feel the need to take Labour as well. | |
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| Oh Jeremy on 15:03 - Mar 27 with 4430 views | BlueRaider |
| Oh Jeremy on 14:22 - Mar 27 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Greens, SNP, Plaid, Communist Party of Britain? |
Another reason that we need PR, it will enable both the main parties to split, leaving a centre left party, a centre right one and some other parties on the fringes | |
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| Oh Jeremy on 15:05 - Mar 27 with 4426 views | Blueschev |
| Oh Jeremy on 15:00 - Mar 27 by Herbivore |
You've already got the Tories, lowhouse, not sure why you feel the need to take Labour as well. |
You need to be realistic here. If you want real change, the best thing to do is pretend that you don't. Then you might get some, or something. | | | |
| Oh Jeremy on 15:08 - Mar 27 with 4402 views | lowhouseblue |
| Oh Jeremy on 15:00 - Mar 27 by Herbivore |
You've already got the Tories, lowhouse, not sure why you feel the need to take Labour as well. |
i'm very happy with labour - now a progressive and electable party. if there are people who want something different then they should have the balls to stand on what it is they want and see what the electorate think. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Oh Jeremy on 15:10 - Mar 27 with 4379 views | Herbivore |
| Oh Jeremy on 15:05 - Mar 27 by Blueschev |
You need to be realistic here. If you want real change, the best thing to do is pretend that you don't. Then you might get some, or something. |
Indeed. I find it odd that there are some who claim to be progressive and to want a more equal society but feel the way to do so is to go in the opposite direction to that politically so that we don't scare people and then at some unspecified point in the future we might be able to gradually start making some very small changes to our rigged system. | |
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