| Hermann Hreidarsson 20:00 - Apr 14 with 2008 views | Kropotkin123 |
Read Phil's articles and it got me thinking... Was Hermann overrated?
I was a teen during his time at Town and thought he was fantastic. But, he got relegated from the premiership a record 5 times. Was he unlucky or did he flatter to decieve?
EDIT: Why are people downvoting me when I asked a question and said I thought he was fantastic? Pretty pathetic. [Post edited 15 Apr 2023 9:49]
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| Hermann Hreidarsson on 20:06 - Apr 14 with 1963 views | homer_123 |
Quality bat sh1t crazy player but yes....relegation player sadly. |  |
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| Hermann Hreidarsson on 20:09 - Apr 14 with 1941 views | Churchman |
I don’t think so. I thought he was excellent. Big, strong he had presence and a good level of skill.
Relegation with us was down to a number of factors, none of which included him. |  | | |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 20:42 - Apr 14 with 1884 views | bournemouthblue |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 20:09 - Apr 14 by Churchman |
I don’t think so. I thought he was excellent. Big, strong he had presence and a good level of skill.
Relegation with us was down to a number of factors, none of which included him. |
Agreed, good player but had a bat habit of ending up at relegation battlers |  |
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| Hermann Hreidarsson on 20:57 - Apr 14 with 1837 views | Wallingford_Boy |
Probably.
Players like him we look back on fondly, but he was no Linighan, De Vos, Mogga, Bramble, etc. |  |
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| Hermann Hreidarsson on 21:01 - Apr 14 with 1817 views | blueoxford |
No. Legend |  | | |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 23:23 - Apr 14 with 1676 views | Churchman |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 20:57 - Apr 14 by Wallingford_Boy |
Probably.
Players like him we look back on fondly, but he was no Linighan, De Vos, Mogga, Bramble, etc. |
He was a better player than Alky Linighan (who I did like) and Titus who was so promising but for me never quite fulfilled it. Mowbray was a better player in his prime and experience compensated when he played for us. I think he was a better footballer than De Vos skill wise, but Jason was a great captain and a real rock in the middle there.
I liked all of them in their different ways and Mark Venus too. Him and Mowbray and of course Hermann after TM retired, the opponents day was more often than not a long one. John McGreal wasn’t bad either. | | | |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 01:37 - Apr 15 with 1586 views | bournemouthblue |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 23:23 - Apr 14 by Churchman |
He was a better player than Alky Linighan (who I did like) and Titus who was so promising but for me never quite fulfilled it. Mowbray was a better player in his prime and experience compensated when he played for us. I think he was a better footballer than De Vos skill wise, but Jason was a great captain and a real rock in the middle there.
I liked all of them in their different ways and Mark Venus too. Him and Mowbray and of course Hermann after TM retired, the opponents day was more often than not a long one. John McGreal wasn’t bad either. |
De Vos was an absolute unit and leader, it would have nice to see him partnered with some proper defensive players | |
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| Hermann Hreidarsson on 07:12 - Apr 15 with 1464 views | Steve_M |
He was a good, strong, very mobile defender but not quite good enough to play centrally in a back four, concentration never looked quite good enough. The relegation thing reflected who he played for, he had two even before he joined us - None of those teams were established top division sides although Charlton came close.
So, more circumstantial than unlucky and he was good enough to get moves back to clubs on the up after each relegation. |  |
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| Hermann Hreidarsson on 08:10 - Apr 15 with 1365 views | Sharkey |
He showed up as Sol Campbell's assistant at Southend, in the season they were relegated from the league. I don't know how that link-up came about.
His name was mispronounced throughout his career, but I guess he didn't mind. (It should be Hraytharsson.) |  | | |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 08:18 - Apr 15 with 1350 views | Pique |
In fairness Hermann won the FA Cup as part of a defence in which he played alongside Sol Campbell, Sylvan Distin and Glen Johnson, so it's not like his career was a total downer! |  | | |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 08:22 - Apr 15 with 1341 views | Sharkey |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 08:18 - Apr 15 by Pique |
In fairness Hermann won the FA Cup as part of a defence in which he played alongside Sol Campbell, Sylvan Distin and Glen Johnson, so it's not like his career was a total downer! |
Ah , - you just answered my 'question' about how he knew Sol Campbell. | | | |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 08:25 - Apr 15 with 1331 views | Pique |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 08:22 - Apr 15 by Sharkey |
Ah , - you just answered my 'question' about how he knew Sol Campbell. |
Yep, from the days when 'Arry was splashing the cash at Pompey! | | | |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 10:46 - Apr 15 with 1192 views | Swansea_Blue |
He wasn’t overrated as much as a cult character. A good player if not great, but played with his heart on his sleeve. He was fab (but not Fab). |  |
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| Hermann Hreidarsson on 11:58 - Apr 15 with 1112 views | stonojnr |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 20:42 - Apr 14 by bournemouthblue |
Agreed, good player but had a bat habit of ending up at relegation battlers |
by which you mean he had a habit of playing for clubs who ended up in relegation battles.
he was a quality defender for us, was sad to see him leave town, and our defence was quite rubbish without his presence for some while afterwards. | | | |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 12:12 - Apr 15 with 1095 views | charlie1 |
Remember his home debut against Man U.
They played a long ball over the top and Hermann and Andy Cole both turned on the halfway line for a straight foot race towards our goal.
Those big old Icelandic arms and legs pumped like pistons and left Cole for dead, turned the ball out toward left back and thumped it clear up the line.
Loved him. Never gave less than 100% for us. | | | |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 12:14 - Apr 15 with 1080 views | Herbivore |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 01:37 - Apr 15 by bournemouthblue |
De Vos was an absolute unit and leader, it would have nice to see him partnered with some proper defensive players |
De Vos was quality but he spent his career playing in the second tier and below. Hermann spent his best years playing in the Prem and he never looked out of place. An absolute specimen. |  |
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| Hermann Hreidarsson on 12:38 - Apr 15 with 1019 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 20:57 - Apr 14 by Wallingford_Boy |
Probably.
Players like him we look back on fondly, but he was no Linighan, De Vos, Mogga, Bramble, etc. |
None of those was better than Hermann. Bramble and Mogga for one season are the only ones who come close.
Was Hermann overrated? Yes, but only by those who thought he was a top international centre back and should have won the World Cup.
He may have been relegated several times but that was because plenty of Premier League managers rated him. He played 36 times when we finished 5th. Then he was in our relegation before playing 4 successive seasons in the Premier League with Charlton. When relegated, he spent 3 more Premier League seasons playing regularly at Portsmouth. He then dropped to the Championship. Total Premier League appearances and seasons: 332 over 11 seasons.
Cf: Linighan 277 appearances for Town only 112 in the Prem across 3 seasons.
De Vos never played in the Premier League for anyone. Closest he got was losing a Championship play-off semi-final with us.
Bramble had 13 seasons in the Premier League but only made 290 appearances across that time. He may have been as good as Hermann but his injury record meant he spent far less time on the pitch and he was far more prone to errors than Hermann was.
When Mogga played for us in his final season he was immense. Over the course of his career he was never at the same level that Hermann was. For one season, he was playing at the same standard and for that and everything else around him, Mogga is rightly a legend. He was never really better than Hermann, though. |  |
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| Hermann Hreidarsson on 12:48 - Apr 15 with 997 views | DBaldy |
I've only seen Matt Clarke play a couple of times & so I could be wide of the mark here, but he reminds me of Hermann with his style of play and attitude/commitment | | | |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 12:51 - Apr 15 with 981 views | charlie1 |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 12:48 - Apr 15 by DBaldy |
I've only seen Matt Clarke play a couple of times & so I could be wide of the mark here, but he reminds me of Hermann with his style of play and attitude/commitment |
Hard to tell in the 4 games he played for us. | | | |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 13:01 - Apr 15 with 952 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 12:51 - Apr 15 by charlie1 |
Hard to tell in the 4 games he played for us. |
Do you think he meant Harry Clarke? I can see the merit of the comparison but a long way for Harry to go. | |
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| Hermann Hreidarsson on 13:03 - Apr 15 with 935 views | DBaldy |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 13:01 - Apr 15 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Do you think he meant Harry Clarke? I can see the merit of the comparison but a long way for Harry to go. |
LOL yes Harry Clarke, no idea where Matt came from!
I know his mum through work as well so that's extra embarrassing.... | | | |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 14:40 - Apr 15 with 816 views | NeedhamChris |
It's all relative isn't it. There are players that wouldn't have been in the top 10 back in 2001 that will still be significantly ahead of the current crop of players.
Inevitable that some of your worst PL players will be better than our best League one players | |
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| Hermann Hreidarsson on 20:29 - Apr 15 with 700 views | bournemouthblue |
| Hermann Hreidarsson on 12:14 - Apr 15 by Herbivore |
De Vos was quality but he spent his career playing in the second tier and below. Hermann spent his best years playing in the Prem and he never looked out of place. An absolute specimen. |
I'm by no means comparing the too
I did like De Vos though, he was a great signing by Royle, just a shame we couldn't bring any other defensive players with his kind of credentials, we'd have made it to the Prem that season if we had | |
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