| VAR 13:11 - May 24 with 3268 views | IpswichRising |
Sheffield Wednesday fans are moaning at the use of VAR for Monday's play off final, they are probably scared at getting players sent off and goals chalked off for offside, how ironic would it be for them to lose by having a goal ruled out |  | | |  |
| VAR on 13:13 - May 24 with 3207 views | hoppy |
Do they realise it will be used for both teams? |  |
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| VAR on 13:14 - May 24 with 3191 views | Herbivore |
Sheffield Wednesday fans moaning about something? Surely not! |  |
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| VAR on 13:22 - May 24 with 3158 views | SheffordBlue |
I do think it's odd it's come in for the final only. Would be better to have the same standards for the whole season in my opinion. | |
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| VAR on 13:34 - May 24 with 3096 views | yorkshireblue |
| VAR on 13:22 - May 24 by SheffordBlue |
I do think it's odd it's come in for the final only. Would be better to have the same standards for the whole season in my opinion. |
Yeah I agree.
Which is what the Owls I've spoken to have mentioned. I've not seen any complaints, per se, just that it's odd or annoyance in general about VAR.
Lots of "we don't want it as it's rubbish" rather than "we don't want it as it disadvatages us" |  | | |
| VAR on 14:10 - May 24 with 2976 views | EastTownBlue |
| VAR on 13:22 - May 24 by SheffordBlue |
I do think it's odd it's come in for the final only. Would be better to have the same standards for the whole season in my opinion. |
It doesn’t bother me in the play offs. When the Premier League clubs enter the FA Cup third round where their grounds have VAR and non PL grounds don’t it doesn’t make sense. | | | |
| VAR on 14:17 - May 24 with 2954 views | Radlett_blue |
| VAR on 13:22 - May 24 by SheffordBlue |
I do think it's odd it's come in for the final only. Would be better to have the same standards for the whole season in my opinion. |
The usual irrational position where people object to change.
One is entitled to dislike the advent of VAR, but the theory behind it is that more correct decisions are reached & some howlers are over-ruled. It is not designed to help any time. Therefore, objecting to its use in a one off final - with a lot of stake - is irrational. Of course, fans of both Wednesday & Barnsley will moan about the introduction of VAR if it leads to a decision against their team and/or if their team loses the final. |  |
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| VAR on 14:26 - May 24 with 2904 views | SheffordBlue |
| VAR on 14:17 - May 24 by Radlett_blue |
The usual irrational position where people object to change.
One is entitled to dislike the advent of VAR, but the theory behind it is that more correct decisions are reached & some howlers are over-ruled. It is not designed to help any time. Therefore, objecting to its use in a one off final - with a lot of stake - is irrational. Of course, fans of both Wednesday & Barnsley will moan about the introduction of VAR if it leads to a decision against their team and/or if their team loses the final. |
I take your point but I think there's an element of 'fairness' at play here that comes from having the same officiating standards throughout the entire competition and that includes the potential for wrong decisions.
I think VAR would have sent a Sheff Weds player off in the 2nd leg of their semi. In the final they could benefit from exactly the same circumstances leading to a Barnsley player being sent off by VAR. One fewer incorrect decision - Yes. Fair - I don't think so. | |
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| VAR on 14:28 - May 24 with 2896 views | SE1blue |
| VAR on 14:17 - May 24 by Radlett_blue |
The usual irrational position where people object to change.
One is entitled to dislike the advent of VAR, but the theory behind it is that more correct decisions are reached & some howlers are over-ruled. It is not designed to help any time. Therefore, objecting to its use in a one off final - with a lot of stake - is irrational. Of course, fans of both Wednesday & Barnsley will moan about the introduction of VAR if it leads to a decision against their team and/or if their team loses the final. |
I can understand a little bit of their 'annoyance' as it does smack a little of 'we can't be arsed to invest in VAR for lower league clubs but now you're at our home of football, we can't allow any embarrassing errors' etc.
There have been some terrible decisions and refereeing this season, so if what you say about VAR is true and it's worth having, then they should have stumped up and invested in this for everyone earlier. Huge amounts of potential income rests on footballing decisions each week for smaller clubs, not just at the play-off final. |  |
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| VAR on 14:49 - May 24 with 2825 views | Radlett_blue |
| VAR on 14:28 - May 24 by SE1blue |
I can understand a little bit of their 'annoyance' as it does smack a little of 'we can't be arsed to invest in VAR for lower league clubs but now you're at our home of football, we can't allow any embarrassing errors' etc.
There have been some terrible decisions and refereeing this season, so if what you say about VAR is true and it's worth having, then they should have stumped up and invested in this for everyone earlier. Huge amounts of potential income rests on footballing decisions each week for smaller clubs, not just at the play-off final. |
The PL has the money to fund VAR. The football League doesn't. It's available at Wembley so it's irrational not to use it. [Post edited 25 May 2023 9:25]
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| VAR on 15:00 - May 24 with 2785 views | ITFC_Forever |
| VAR on 14:17 - May 24 by Radlett_blue |
The usual irrational position where people object to change.
One is entitled to dislike the advent of VAR, but the theory behind it is that more correct decisions are reached & some howlers are over-ruled. It is not designed to help any time. Therefore, objecting to its use in a one off final - with a lot of stake - is irrational. Of course, fans of both Wednesday & Barnsley will moan about the introduction of VAR if it leads to a decision against their team and/or if their team loses the final. |
Didn't do Forest any harm last season .... wasn't VAR used and still didn't overrule the incomptent, waddling, last-game-before-retirement Moss for the two penalties Hudds should have had? |  |
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| VAR on 15:06 - May 24 with 2748 views | Keno |
| VAR on 15:00 - May 24 by ITFC_Forever |
Didn't do Forest any harm last season .... wasn't VAR used and still didn't overrule the incomptent, waddling, last-game-before-retirement Moss for the two penalties Hudds should have had? |
If only there had been VAR in 1975!!!
That cheating ******* **** Welsh ******* **** B'stard wouldnt have cost up the FA Cup
Not that I am still bitter about it anything [Post edited 24 May 2023 15:06]
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| VAR on 15:22 - May 24 with 2679 views | hoppy |
| VAR on 14:17 - May 24 by Radlett_blue |
The usual irrational position where people object to change.
One is entitled to dislike the advent of VAR, but the theory behind it is that more correct decisions are reached & some howlers are over-ruled. It is not designed to help any time. Therefore, objecting to its use in a one off final - with a lot of stake - is irrational. Of course, fans of both Wednesday & Barnsley will moan about the introduction of VAR if it leads to a decision against their team and/or if their team loses the final. |
Had it been in place through the season, there would've been several decisions even just in our own games that would've made big differences - Harness' disallowed goal, a Sheff Weds player being sent off at PR in the first half after review on VAR just a couple of examples... but being the same for both teams in a one-off final if it's available, makes sense to use it, rather than switch it off and wishing later it hadn't been. | |
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| VAR on 15:31 - May 24 with 2627 views | GeoffSentence |
| VAR on 15:06 - May 24 by Keno |
If only there had been VAR in 1975!!!
That cheating ******* **** Welsh ******* **** B'stard wouldnt have cost up the FA Cup
Not that I am still bitter about it anything [Post edited 24 May 2023 15:06]
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If we'd had it this season we probably would have four more points vs Sheffield Wednsday and two more vs Barnsley |  |
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| VAR on 15:51 - May 24 with 2544 views | Basuco |
Why would anyone not want the correct decision to be made? The fact that the video referee's are sometimes unable to come to the correct decision even with slow motion replay's is another question. |  | | |
| VAR on 15:59 - May 24 with 2517 views | SE1blue |
| VAR on 14:49 - May 24 by Radlett_blue |
The PL has the money to fund VAR. The football League doesn't. It's available at Wembley so it's irrational not to use it. [Post edited 25 May 2023 9:25]
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Oh I agree, you don't drink PG Tips at afternoon tea in the Ritz.
I just think it should be all in for everyone, all season. | |
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| VAR on 17:20 - May 24 with 2325 views | Trequartista |
| VAR on 13:22 - May 24 by SheffordBlue |
I do think it's odd it's come in for the final only. Would be better to have the same standards for the whole season in my opinion. |
I think the same standards should apply at all levels of professional football, i.e. get rid of VAR |  |
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| VAR on 19:36 - May 24 with 2142 views | ArnieM |
According to a number of Owls fans on FB only 1 fan racially abused their manager. So they also have selective memory. |  |
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| VAR on 19:56 - May 24 with 2107 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
If a VAR decision goes against them it will still be Moore’s fault. | | | |
| VAR on 20:05 - May 24 with 2086 views | Swansea_Blue |
| VAR on 13:22 - May 24 by SheffordBlue |
I do think it's odd it's come in for the final only. Would be better to have the same standards for the whole season in my opinion. |
I’m the opposite. It’s a shame they’re only using it in 1 game, but 1 is better than none. |  |
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| VAR on 20:46 - May 24 with 2026 views | Nutkins_Return |
| VAR on 15:22 - May 24 by hoppy |
Had it been in place through the season, there would've been several decisions even just in our own games that would've made big differences - Harness' disallowed goal, a Sheff Weds player being sent off at PR in the first half after review on VAR just a couple of examples... but being the same for both teams in a one-off final if it's available, makes sense to use it, rather than switch it off and wishing later it hadn't been. |
Yep. Can't understand the problem whatsoever. It's a final. They will get the best officials available at this level also which isn't the case for every match. They are playing at Wembley which isn't available in the season etc etc. Non story. People listen to much to the likes of Shearer slating VAR. It's improved massively but nobody talks about that because the moaning rhetoric was set.
On VAR more generally I for one would have bloody loved VAR this season. We would have won the league. (Not really the point - change happens, progress happens. Seldom ever smooth). | |
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