| Labour are part of the problem when they should be the solution 09:59 - Jun 3 with 4466 views | Darth_Koont |
“We need political leadership that recognises the scale of the problems we are faced with, and the courage to offer a transformative vision and solutions to match
Sadly, @UKLabour seem to be offering a managerial upgrade at best
That is why I’m proud to join @TheGreenParty”
He’s spot on in his thread and article.
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| Labour are part of the problem when they should be the solution on 08:32 - Jun 4 with 1151 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Labour are part of the problem when they should be the solution on 23:10 - Jun 3 by HARRY10 |
It does appear that Starmer looks at the polls, see Labours continuing lead and thinks...... ''I better fck that up"
What on earth possessed him to spout his recent 'making Brexit work' sh yte. Even Sunakackered is rowing back on that now. It is like he is taking a penalty against an undefended goal. So he decides to back heel it with his non kicking foot.
There is so much that is wrong, not simply through warped ideology but through years of incompetence.
Let's hear him talk of how the utilities are going to be run better. If not through public ownership, then at least far better enforced regulation. Apply equal taxation to businesses and not allow private schools to claim they are some sort of charity. Stop the idiocy of HS2 and instead work towards covering the country with fast fibre. Take out 10 landlords a day and shoot them, 'pour encourage les autres'
State that the UK will build wind turbines onshore. If they look
'unsightly' they are not as unsightly as recent electric bills have been.
Increase inheritance tax on housing. Someone works hard, builds up a business wants to hand it down to his family....fine. Someone bought a house in the 70's and seen a massive increase in its value while doing nothing...claw it back, to built housing for the next generation. Maybe at the same multiples of their wages as in the 70s.
Starmer needs to show that him and his lot are in Parliament to help others..... not as Tories, who are there to help themselves, be it through fraud, bribery, backhanders etc. |
Is that the sound of a penny dropping Harry? |  |
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| Labour are part of the problem when they should be the solution on 13:47 - Jun 4 with 1026 views | HARRY10 |
| Labour are part of the problem when they should be the solution on 08:32 - Jun 4 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Is that the sound of a penny dropping Harry? |
Yes. I never knew Labour might not always be the political voice of trade union movement until I read your student union level of appraisal.
So thanks, Rik. |  | | |
| Labour are part of the problem when they should be the solution on 16:30 - Jun 4 with 973 views | nodge_blue |
| Labour are part of the problem when they should be the solution on 23:10 - Jun 3 by HARRY10 |
It does appear that Starmer looks at the polls, see Labours continuing lead and thinks...... ''I better fck that up"
What on earth possessed him to spout his recent 'making Brexit work' sh yte. Even Sunakackered is rowing back on that now. It is like he is taking a penalty against an undefended goal. So he decides to back heel it with his non kicking foot.
There is so much that is wrong, not simply through warped ideology but through years of incompetence.
Let's hear him talk of how the utilities are going to be run better. If not through public ownership, then at least far better enforced regulation. Apply equal taxation to businesses and not allow private schools to claim they are some sort of charity. Stop the idiocy of HS2 and instead work towards covering the country with fast fibre. Take out 10 landlords a day and shoot them, 'pour encourage les autres'
State that the UK will build wind turbines onshore. If they look
'unsightly' they are not as unsightly as recent electric bills have been.
Increase inheritance tax on housing. Someone works hard, builds up a business wants to hand it down to his family....fine. Someone bought a house in the 70's and seen a massive increase in its value while doing nothing...claw it back, to built housing for the next generation. Maybe at the same multiples of their wages as in the 70s.
Starmer needs to show that him and his lot are in Parliament to help others..... not as Tories, who are there to help themselves, be it through fraud, bribery, backhanders etc. |
Are you shooting pub landlords or the housing ones? Or both...is it just a landlord thing? |  |
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| Labour are part of the problem when they should be the solution on 13:11 - Jun 5 with 866 views | unbelievablue |
| Labour are part of the problem when they should be the solution on 12:07 - Jun 3 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Don't disagree with anything you've said there. Just HOW do we demand better? What do your regular posts attacking Starmer actually achieve? They're not going to get rid of him any time soon, so all it can possibly do (if it's doing anything) is push a few undecideds somewhere else. |
Yes, this is my issue here. 'We should demand better' is a philosophical position more than anything else, and it often ends up in apathy/not engaging with the current system etc.
That's a fair choice given the lack of real options, but feels a bit pointless to start threads about it again and again. |  |
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| Labour are part of the problem when they should be the solution on 13:22 - Jun 5 with 819 views | leitrimblue |
| Labour are part of the problem when they should be the solution on 16:30 - Jun 4 by nodge_blue |
Are you shooting pub landlords or the housing ones? Or both...is it just a landlord thing? |
Perhaps start with all Lords and work our way up from there? Someone save Charlie for me |  | | |
| Labour are part of the problem when they should be the solution on 13:57 - Jun 5 with 773 views | hype313 |
| Labour are part of the problem when they should be the solution on 11:41 - Jun 3 by Darth_Koont |
Or we could demand an awful lot better. We’ve sleepwalked to where we are now because of the global and national challenges we’ve failed to address over decades and have brought us austerity, Brexit, wage stagnation, low productivity, growing inequality and poverty, fecked-up housing, low investment, poor public services, a traumatised NHS, personal debt and enormous government debt that hasn’t shifted the metrics but now means we can’t spend what we need. And so on and so on, not least that people already on the margins have less and less protection and security.
Let’s make that choice between “Sh1t” and “Sh1tter” when there is literally no other choice in a GE. But let’s not pretend that the choice is fit for purpose, democratically or socio-economically. |
One day some on here might wake up and smell the coffee and come to the realisation that none of the parties will offer anything like the kind of world you want to live in. And if a party did come in and offer that they would be killed off by the MSM.
Can't believe people can't see the divide and conquer route these charlatans put upon society.
As Mar Twain said “If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it.” |  |
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| Labour are part of the problem when they should be the solution on 14:12 - Jun 5 with 741 views | lowhouseblue |
| Labour are part of the problem when they should be the solution on 13:57 - Jun 5 by hype313 |
One day some on here might wake up and smell the coffee and come to the realisation that none of the parties will offer anything like the kind of world you want to live in. And if a party did come in and offer that they would be killed off by the MSM.
Can't believe people can't see the divide and conquer route these charlatans put upon society.
As Mar Twain said “If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it.” |
only in one of the world's more prosperous, privileged, free, open, liberal, and law driven countries would someone take such a view. if the uk isn't the sort of world you want to live in i suspect you have quite a blinkered view on the alternatives which are out there. check your privilege as millennials are rumoured to say. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Labour are part of the problem when they should be the solution on 14:22 - Jun 5 with 709 views | hype313 |
| Labour are part of the problem when they should be the solution on 14:12 - Jun 5 by lowhouseblue |
only in one of the world's more prosperous, privileged, free, open, liberal, and law driven countries would someone take such a view. if the uk isn't the sort of world you want to live in i suspect you have quite a blinkered view on the alternatives which are out there. check your privilege as millennials are rumoured to say. |
It's not me that has a blinkered view, I'm well aware of the fact that I was lucky to be born in the UK as opposed to South Sudan.
However, this constant arguing on here between the parties is laughable, I try and live my life as best as I can under the circumstances, Labour get in? hardly going to dramatically change my life, albeit I won't have to witness the faux outrage by people surprised that politicians don't have morals. But, if the best the opposition can offer is that they're not as bad as the current shower then apologies if I'm not jumping for joy at their offering.
I've seen both Labour and Conservative politicians promising a land of milk and honey, when it just ends up with lies, controversy and careers ended.
Rinse and repeat. [Post edited 5 Jun 2023 14:23]
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