| That hockey incident 19:09 - Oct 30 with 8373 views | blueasfook |
Keep seeing that video on X and its a shocker. I'm no hockey expert but it's looks intentional to me. He moved into the guy and stuck his leg out. Apparently the guy has a bit of a rep for being a dirty player. Nottinghamshire police are investigating it. Wouldn't be surprised to see a manslaughter charge. |  |
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| That hockey incident on 19:10 - Oct 30 with 6397 views | JakeITFC |
I’m not an expert, but I’m going to say he didn’t mean to drop kick someone in the neck with a hockey skate. |  | | |
| That hockey incident on 19:10 - Oct 30 with 6393 views | _clive_baker_ |
I know nothing about Ice Hockey so really have no idea what I'm looking at, but I saw some (presumably more informed people than me) saying he was pushed and it would've been hard to avoid contact. Must say as a layman I'm not sure why his blade needed to be that high. Horrendous outcome nonetheless, must've been horrible to witness live. |  | | |
| That hockey incident on 19:16 - Oct 30 with 6319 views | SitfcB |
| That hockey incident on 19:10 - Oct 30 by _clive_baker_ |
I know nothing about Ice Hockey so really have no idea what I'm looking at, but I saw some (presumably more informed people than me) saying he was pushed and it would've been hard to avoid contact. Must say as a layman I'm not sure why his blade needed to be that high. Horrendous outcome nonetheless, must've been horrible to witness live. |
Definitely wasn’t pushed, wasn’t anyone behind him. |  |
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| That hockey incident on 19:33 - Oct 30 with 6215 views | blueasfook |
| That hockey incident on 19:16 - Oct 30 by SitfcB |
Definitely wasn’t pushed, wasn’t anyone behind him. |
I watched in slo mo and he's not pushed no. He seems to move across the back of his team mate and then his leg is up and he boots the guy in the neck. Utterly reckless. | |
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| That hockey incident on 19:36 - Oct 30 with 6189 views | MJallday |
I hadn’t seen the video until looking.
It’s not clear that it was intentional, but it’s certainly not a natural position for him
To fall in even after a shunt. However I’m not a hockey expert.
I can see a MS charge being raised here. |  |
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| That hockey incident on 19:36 - Oct 30 with 6183 views | _clive_baker_ |
| That hockey incident on 19:16 - Oct 30 by SitfcB |
Definitely wasn’t pushed, wasn’t anyone behind him. |
He makes contact with the other opponent literally a split second before he clatters the bloke though. | | | |
| That hockey incident on 19:59 - Oct 30 with 6068 views | Mullet |
It's horrible. Tragic too.
Never seen anything like it in hockey. But I've only watched a few games. The twitter speculation and troll accounts making it about race is awful too. |  |
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| That hockey incident on 20:26 - Oct 30 with 5900 views | Illinoisblue |
Looked more reckless than intentional. Very odd to see a hockey player’s leg that high. Assuming it was just an accident… he’s going to feel awful for the rest of his life. Also; why don’t hockey players wear neck guards as a mandatory piece of equipment? Seems an obvious thing to do |  |
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| That hockey incident on 20:32 - Oct 30 with 5863 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Why would you go out of your way to watch this, nevermind in slow motion too? |  |
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| That hockey incident on 20:32 - Oct 30 with 5862 views | Kievthegreat |
| That hockey incident on 19:59 - Oct 30 by Mullet |
It's horrible. Tragic too.
Never seen anything like it in hockey. But I've only watched a few games. The twitter speculation and troll accounts making it about race is awful too. |
It's very much American right wing twitter pushing this. Some very transparently pushing the racist angle all because the player whose skate causes the injury is black.
As has been noted, while he's skating towards Adam Johnson, he gets bumped by the other Panthers player (nothing wrong with that) at which point the skate comes up. The idea of being bumped off balance and less than half a second later skating on one leg and managing to aim a kick at someone is incredulous. The problem with slowing it down is that it gives a false perspective of time. The time from initial contact with the first player to the final contact is a fraction of a second. Of course if you slow it down it'll look more deliberate. |  | | |
| That hockey incident on 20:33 - Oct 30 with 5858 views | gainsboroughblue |
| That hockey incident on 20:26 - Oct 30 by Illinoisblue |
Looked more reckless than intentional. Very odd to see a hockey player’s leg that high. Assuming it was just an accident… he’s going to feel awful for the rest of his life. Also; why don’t hockey players wear neck guards as a mandatory piece of equipment? Seems an obvious thing to do |
Was reading earlier that the Oxford City team have immediately made neck guards mandatory following this incident and it's expected the league will follow suit. |  |
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| That hockey incident on 20:37 - Oct 30 with 5820 views | Kievthegreat |
| That hockey incident on 20:26 - Oct 30 by Illinoisblue |
Looked more reckless than intentional. Very odd to see a hockey player’s leg that high. Assuming it was just an accident… he’s going to feel awful for the rest of his life. Also; why don’t hockey players wear neck guards as a mandatory piece of equipment? Seems an obvious thing to do |
There are mandatory neck guards until the age of 18 in most countries, similar to the rules around full face visors.
However when players turn 18, they almost all ditch them for half visors and no neck protectors because of comfort and to not inhibit movement. There is also a stupid element of bravado, where players would be mocked if they wore extra equipment/full face visor because they're in kids gear.
Worth noting the English and Scottish Ice Hockey authorities will be making them mandatory for all games and training for all ages from 1st Jan 2024. The UK wide Elite League (where this game took place) hasn't made any statement yet, but I'd expect similar rules to be brought in by then as well. [Post edited 30 Oct 2023 20:39]
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| That hockey incident on 20:40 - Oct 30 with 5797 views | Plums |
| That hockey incident on 20:32 - Oct 30 by Kievthegreat |
It's very much American right wing twitter pushing this. Some very transparently pushing the racist angle all because the player whose skate causes the injury is black.
As has been noted, while he's skating towards Adam Johnson, he gets bumped by the other Panthers player (nothing wrong with that) at which point the skate comes up. The idea of being bumped off balance and less than half a second later skating on one leg and managing to aim a kick at someone is incredulous. The problem with slowing it down is that it gives a false perspective of time. The time from initial contact with the first player to the final contact is a fraction of a second. Of course if you slow it down it'll look more deliberate. |
I spoke to a Panthers ST holder today who said exactly what you have. They see it as no more than a tragic, freak accident. I haven't seen it myself and have no desire to.
RIP Adam Johnson |  |
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| That hockey incident on 20:53 - Oct 30 with 5712 views | Kievthegreat |
| That hockey incident on 20:40 - Oct 30 by Plums |
I spoke to a Panthers ST holder today who said exactly what you have. They see it as no more than a tragic, freak accident. I haven't seen it myself and have no desire to.
RIP Adam Johnson |
I'm a Panthers ST holder myself and even though I'm not a fan of Matt Petgrave (he's a big, aggressive and very good defender who plays for our biggest rivals), but having seen the speed these guys play at and how fast paced everything is, the idea he deliberately did it is crazy. Could it be reckless? Maybe if you're unbelievably harsh. The guy is skating at speed, gets bumped and is trying to keep going to stay upright and get to doing his job.
Considering most of the people making these rash judgements probably can't skate without holding on to the side of the rink, they probably can't comprehend skating and manoeuvring and balancing when going on when your traveling as fast as Usain Bolt on ice. | | | |
| That hockey incident on 20:54 - Oct 30 with 5707 views | blueasfook |
| That hockey incident on 20:32 - Oct 30 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Why would you go out of your way to watch this, nevermind in slow motion too? |
Why not? People die in accidents. That's life petal. I was just trying to make up my own mind if I thought it was accidental or deliberate | |
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| That hockey incident on 21:37 - Oct 30 with 5493 views | tractorboy1978 |
| That hockey incident on 20:54 - Oct 30 by blueasfook |
Why not? People die in accidents. That's life petal. I was just trying to make up my own mind if I thought it was accidental or deliberate |
I think it’s pretty despicable to accuse a professional ice hockey player of intentionally blading another professional. |  | | |
| That hockey incident on 21:39 - Oct 30 with 5487 views | Kievthegreat |
| That hockey incident on 20:32 - Oct 30 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Why would you go out of your way to watch this, nevermind in slow motion too? |
As someone who accidentally has seen footage when searching for updates hoping Adam Johnson would survive, the clips circulating now all cut out at the moment of impact and don't show the aftermath, so they are quite sterile (but still enormously disrespectful to the him and his family). The original clips showed the aftermath and it was genuinely one of the most horrific things I've ever seen. Lots of people were blocking and reporting videos as they started surfacing on twitter, but bots were just posting it incessantly.
And that's before the MAGA right wing grifters got in on it. Now the internet is bombarded with calling Petgrave a murderer for what was a horrific accident. He already will need a lifetime of counselling, 10,000s of racists on twitter calling him a murderer won't help. | | | |
| That hockey incident on 21:56 - Oct 30 with 5414 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| That hockey incident on 20:54 - Oct 30 by blueasfook |
Why not? People die in accidents. That's life petal. I was just trying to make up my own mind if I thought it was accidental or deliberate |
Because that really matters Big Man. | |
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| That hockey incident on 22:29 - Oct 30 with 5309 views | Nutkins_Return |
| That hockey incident on 20:54 - Oct 30 by blueasfook |
Why not? People die in accidents. That's life petal. I was just trying to make up my own mind if I thought it was accidental or deliberate |
"Why not?"(because it's completely weird), "people die in accidents" (weird point) And then calling someone "petal" as if their soft for finding the idea of watching that a bit odd. In slow motion ffs!
That's a creepy old post to be honest. | |
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| That hockey incident on 22:39 - Oct 30 with 5256 views | BlueBadger |
| That hockey incident on 20:54 - Oct 30 by blueasfook |
Why not? People die in accidents. That's life petal. I was just trying to make up my own mind if I thought it was accidental or deliberate |
You're not looking like the billy big-b0ll0cks banter lord you think you do here. |  |
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| That hockey incident on 22:40 - Oct 30 with 5242 views | Swansea_Blue |
| That hockey incident on 22:29 - Oct 30 by Nutkins_Return |
"Why not?"(because it's completely weird), "people die in accidents" (weird point) And then calling someone "petal" as if their soft for finding the idea of watching that a bit odd. In slow motion ffs!
That's a creepy old post to be honest. |
It’s very weird indeed. I’m glad you found the words I was struggling to find. |  |
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| That hockey incident on 22:57 - Oct 30 with 5177 views | BondiBlue |
| That hockey incident on 21:39 - Oct 30 by Kievthegreat |
As someone who accidentally has seen footage when searching for updates hoping Adam Johnson would survive, the clips circulating now all cut out at the moment of impact and don't show the aftermath, so they are quite sterile (but still enormously disrespectful to the him and his family). The original clips showed the aftermath and it was genuinely one of the most horrific things I've ever seen. Lots of people were blocking and reporting videos as they started surfacing on twitter, but bots were just posting it incessantly.
And that's before the MAGA right wing grifters got in on it. Now the internet is bombarded with calling Petgrave a murderer for what was a horrific accident. He already will need a lifetime of counselling, 10,000s of racists on twitter calling him a murderer won't help. |
The sydney shark attack vids have got the same treatment, thankfully. I learned my lesson watching them and i'm not going to watch this. If you're lucky enough not to have to witness something so awful, i'd recommend not trying to find a way to. | |
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| That hockey incident on 23:09 - Oct 30 with 5149 views | mikeybloo88 |
I have watched hockey regularly, mostly NHL, for 40 years...I’ve seen plenty of big hits and checks but never seen anything which caused a players leg to go up like that. No way do I think Petgrave deliberately intended to cut him with his skate but it does look to me like he was targeting him and trying to block him with his trailing leg...hard to tell if there was any contact on Petgrave or if his front skate caught in the ice which may have caused his leg to fly up. I’m giving benefit of the doubt because the alternative is pretty unthinkable... |  | | |
| That hockey incident on 00:58 - Oct 31 with 4999 views | Kievthegreat |
The opinion of Adam Johnson's teammate:
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| That hockey incident on 01:06 - Oct 31 with 4956 views | tcblue |
Hockey is my second love, I've not seen.the incident ,- on purpose - but I know nobody would try to do this purposefully.
There have been other incidents of the like - I'm not aware of fatal ones - Clint Malarchuk being the one I remember most.
Neck protection comes up periodically and there's really not a great solution been found, partially because the trade off between safety and comfort is huge, the more comfortable ones are little more than tight fitting snoods - probably not much use against a blade attached to a sixteen stone man travelling at speed.
I do wonder - and again, I've purposefully not watched it - if some of the improvements could be in terms of the specialist medical training for first responders. That was what saved Chuck's life. | | | |
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