| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 15:32 - Feb 28 with 2231 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 14:24 - Feb 28 by giant_stow |
For whats its worth boss, its not new that the Tory party is racist - they're just tiring of hiding it now.
Labour on the other hand should always be better than that. They're rightly held to higher standards as equality and fair treatment for all is part of the party's make up. That's why I and others so got the hump with the whole affair.
So yes, there may have been less anti-Semites in the labour party, than islamophobes in the tory party, but it was bang on to kick off over those that were there. The implication from Bankster's post is that it wasn't... that it was just a piffling issue - thats why he got my downvote in any case (I'm sure he's devastated ). |
When there are clear cut genuine cases then individuals should be expelled whatever the party. The issues in Labour back then were inflated for political ends. I'd people can't see that then I believe they are naive in the extreme.
Just imagine if those standards were applied to the current mob. |  |
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| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 15:35 - Feb 28 with 2220 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 14:33 - Feb 28 by GlasgowBlue |
Ah right. The thread was about me all along. You should have said right from the start. |
No it wasn't it was to stop you all calling each other c#nts!! I am allowed to reply to Leitrim though and I took a wild guess as to who he was referring to. | |
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| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 15:37 - Feb 28 with 2210 views | GlasgowBlue |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 15:35 - Feb 28 by BanksterDebtSlave |
No it wasn't it was to stop you all calling each other c#nts!! I am allowed to reply to Leitrim though and I took a wild guess as to who he was referring to. |
Careful now. Children may read your post and you'll get a nasty ticking off from Leitrim. |  |
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| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 15:52 - Feb 28 with 2191 views | BlueBadger |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 15:32 - Feb 28 by BanksterDebtSlave |
When there are clear cut genuine cases then individuals should be expelled whatever the party. The issues in Labour back then were inflated for political ends. I'd people can't see that then I believe they are naive in the extreme.
Just imagine if those standards were applied to the current mob. |
There were genuine cases. They didn't.
Serial offender Ken Livingstone, for example, was allowed to quietly slither away under his own steam without ever seeing any real disciplinary action.
The Tories getting an easier ride over it doesn't excuse the utterly half-arsed approach the Dear Leader took to British Irony. [Post edited 28 Feb 2024 19:16]
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| Yeah, the "Rachel Riley and chums" comment.... on 15:52 - Feb 28 with 2181 views | Bloots |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 14:47 - Feb 28 by GlasgowBlue |
And why reference Rachel Riley, a Jewish woman who has been on the receiving end of endless online anti semitic abuse for speaking up against anti Jewish racism? Even worse, "Rachel Riley and her chums", chums being other Jews.
Not much different to the language used by Lee Anderson when referencing Sadiq Khan and his "mates".
So Banksy starts a thread to prove that right wing Islamophobia is far worse than left wing anti semitism, and in his attempt to do so he uses the sort of phrases that comes from the Islamophobic right. You really couldn't make it up. |
...totally baffled me.
It's personal comments like that that merely validate J2's follow up comment.
Plus she's really hot so should be left alone. |  |
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| Yeah, the "Rachel Riley and chums" comment.... on 15:54 - Feb 28 with 2171 views | J2BLUE |
| Yeah, the "Rachel Riley and chums" comment.... on 15:52 - Feb 28 by Bloots |
...totally baffled me.
It's personal comments like that that merely validate J2's follow up comment.
Plus she's really hot so should be left alone. |
An up vote AND a mention.
I am at half mast. |  |
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| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 16:01 - Feb 28 with 2146 views | bournemouthblue |
When they are wheeling out Tom 'I'm not racist but have real concerns' Hunt to defend Lee Anderson, you know they are desperate
This is the same Tom Hunt who denied members of the far right being present at a protest they literally organised
https://eastangliabylines.co.uk/exclusive-claims-by-refugee-row-mp-of-no-far-rig
I would call all fair minded Tories out there, some proclaiming to be anti-racists to call this out for what is and root out the nutters who have taken over your party, you must be incredibly embarrassed what is going on presently [Post edited 28 Feb 2024 16:01]
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| Have another upvote.... on 16:03 - Feb 28 with 2138 views | Bloots |
| Yeah, the "Rachel Riley and chums" comment.... on 15:54 - Feb 28 by J2BLUE |
An up vote AND a mention.
I am at half mast. |
....go and treat yourself. | |
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| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 16:09 - Feb 28 with 2118 views | leitrimblue |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 15:37 - Feb 28 by GlasgowBlue |
Careful now. Children may read your post and you'll get a nasty ticking off from Leitrim. |
Or you could just treat people on here as you would in real life.
I'm pretty sure your not running around calling people C-units to their face on a daily basis? |  | | |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 17:03 - Feb 28 with 2027 views | GlasgowBlue |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 16:09 - Feb 28 by leitrimblue |
Or you could just treat people on here as you would in real life.
I'm pretty sure your not running around calling people C-units to their face on a daily basis? |
If they accused me of using my family's ethnicity as a flag of convenience, I certainly would. I don't hide behind a keyboard. Happy to repeat it on the rare occasion we may meet. Maybe if one of my children is with me you could tell them how you believe I have been using them as a political football?
But I thought it was the fact that I used a 'bleeped' out swear word on a board that is read by children that offended you? Not that it was aimed at you.
"Your use of the C word on a forum accessible by children is quite poor."
"You would be happy for young children to be exposed to the C word?"
If you are so offended that children may see the word spelt out as c$%t then why haven't you pulled up Keno for using the word Kunt?
You're a busted fraud.
Any chance that you or Banksy could address this?
If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... by GlasgowBlue 28 Feb 2024 15:09That's odd. Because when Lowhouse posted about Diane Abbott claiming that Irish, Jewish and Traveller people do not suffer from 'racism, your first comment was:
"Are people really suggesting that the most racially abused sections of society are white"?
Oh and Banksy downvoted Lowhouse's post. He was obviously comfortable with his name being on that downvote list for that
https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/557342/page:1
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| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 17:12 - Feb 28 with 2012 views | leitrimblue |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 17:03 - Feb 28 by GlasgowBlue |
If they accused me of using my family's ethnicity as a flag of convenience, I certainly would. I don't hide behind a keyboard. Happy to repeat it on the rare occasion we may meet. Maybe if one of my children is with me you could tell them how you believe I have been using them as a political football?
But I thought it was the fact that I used a 'bleeped' out swear word on a board that is read by children that offended you? Not that it was aimed at you.
"Your use of the C word on a forum accessible by children is quite poor."
"You would be happy for young children to be exposed to the C word?"
If you are so offended that children may see the word spelt out as c$%t then why haven't you pulled up Keno for using the word Kunt?
You're a busted fraud.
Any chance that you or Banksy could address this?
If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... by GlasgowBlue 28 Feb 2024 15:09That's odd. Because when Lowhouse posted about Diane Abbott claiming that Irish, Jewish and Traveller people do not suffer from 'racism, your first comment was:
"Are people really suggesting that the most racially abused sections of society are white"?
Oh and Banksy downvoted Lowhouse's post. He was obviously comfortable with his name being on that downvote list for that
https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/557342/page:1
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Pretty sure I addressed that a couple of hours ago ?( this thread around 3:20)
Nobody used your family ethnicity as a flag of convenience as you well know.
Stop acting the big un, you know full well you wouldn't be swearing and calling people C-units in real life.
Not sure why you feel the need to act so manly on here,pretty sure not like that in real life | | | |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 17:23 - Feb 28 with 1980 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 14:47 - Feb 28 by GlasgowBlue |
And why reference Rachel Riley, a Jewish woman who has been on the receiving end of endless online anti semitic abuse for speaking up against anti Jewish racism? Even worse, "Rachel Riley and her chums", chums being other Jews.
Not much different to the language used by Lee Anderson when referencing Sadiq Khan and his "mates".
So Banksy starts a thread to prove that right wing Islamophobia is far worse than left wing anti semitism, and in his attempt to do so he uses the sort of phrases that comes from the Islamophobic right. You really couldn't make it up. |
Rachel's chums would be a compliant media, right wing/centrist Labour and some other Jews happy to push a particular narrative. You really shouldn't put words into other people's mouths.
Perhaps it is to avoid the question as to how an avowed antiracist failed to notice what was all around him for the decades you were involved with the Conservative party. | |
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| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 17:27 - Feb 28 with 1957 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 17:03 - Feb 28 by GlasgowBlue |
If they accused me of using my family's ethnicity as a flag of convenience, I certainly would. I don't hide behind a keyboard. Happy to repeat it on the rare occasion we may meet. Maybe if one of my children is with me you could tell them how you believe I have been using them as a political football?
But I thought it was the fact that I used a 'bleeped' out swear word on a board that is read by children that offended you? Not that it was aimed at you.
"Your use of the C word on a forum accessible by children is quite poor."
"You would be happy for young children to be exposed to the C word?"
If you are so offended that children may see the word spelt out as c$%t then why haven't you pulled up Keno for using the word Kunt?
You're a busted fraud.
Any chance that you or Banksy could address this?
If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... by GlasgowBlue 28 Feb 2024 15:09That's odd. Because when Lowhouse posted about Diane Abbott claiming that Irish, Jewish and Traveller people do not suffer from 'racism, your first comment was:
"Are people really suggesting that the most racially abused sections of society are white"?
Oh and Banksy downvoted Lowhouse's post. He was obviously comfortable with his name being on that downvote list for that
https://www.twtd.co.uk/forum/557342/page:1
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| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 17:52 - Feb 28 with 1905 views | bournemouthblue |
I'd respect poster's more if they held their hands up and condemned their fellow Tories for this current mess, clearly the Tories are hoping it's going to go away but it's lifted the lid on a problem that has been bubbling for some time
I appreciate dog whistle politics have been a tactic for the Tory right for some time and it's difficult to turn your back on this when someone higher up has convinced you it's going to win you votes, sometimes you have to bite your lip, be the bigger person and condemn those who have poisoned your party and ultimately this country | |
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| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 17:53 - Feb 28 with 1900 views | lowhouseblue |
it seems to me that you sit reading the guardian website thinking "which story can i pick to post and then frame it in a way which creates the maximum division and plays on as many pre-existing disputes and as much dissent as possible? how can i play this so that it pokes others and flames the topic?" you are a one poster / troll demonstration of all that is wrong with social media. |  |
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| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 18:11 - Feb 28 with 1849 views | GlasgowBlue |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 17:52 - Feb 28 by bournemouthblue |
I'd respect poster's more if they held their hands up and condemned their fellow Tories for this current mess, clearly the Tories are hoping it's going to go away but it's lifted the lid on a problem that has been bubbling for some time
I appreciate dog whistle politics have been a tactic for the Tory right for some time and it's difficult to turn your back on this when someone higher up has convinced you it's going to win you votes, sometimes you have to bite your lip, be the bigger person and condemn those who have poisoned your party and ultimately this country |
Which posters? Name names. | |
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| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 18:15 - Feb 28 with 1838 views | MattinLondon |
I’m afraid that I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make. Racism in whatever form it takes is dehumanising, degrading and unpleasant.
Antisemitism was a major problem whilst Corbyn was Labour’s leader and currently under Sunak, Islamophobia is a major problem. Both are bad, regardless of numbers both forms of bigotry seems (or seemed) to have been allowed to fester under the past or present regimes.
I’m sure that this wasn’t your intention but you seemed to have excused one form of racism over another. |  | | |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 18:15 - Feb 28 with 1837 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 17:53 - Feb 28 by lowhouseblue |
it seems to me that you sit reading the guardian website thinking "which story can i pick to post and then frame it in a way which creates the maximum division and plays on as many pre-existing disputes and as much dissent as possible? how can i play this so that it pokes others and flames the topic?" you are a one poster / troll demonstration of all that is wrong with social media. |
And the award for poster most concerned with discrediting the Labour left while not being too fussed by Tories goes to........ | |
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| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 18:34 - Feb 28 with 1789 views | lowhouseblue |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 18:15 - Feb 28 by BanksterDebtSlave |
And the award for poster most concerned with discrediting the Labour left while not being too fussed by Tories goes to........ |
bigotry and intolerance is something i expect from both the tories and the hard left. but labour being infiltrated by it upset me greatly. but you're just a troll alas. | |
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| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 18:41 - Feb 28 with 1757 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 18:15 - Feb 28 by MattinLondon |
I’m afraid that I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make. Racism in whatever form it takes is dehumanising, degrading and unpleasant.
Antisemitism was a major problem whilst Corbyn was Labour’s leader and currently under Sunak, Islamophobia is a major problem. Both are bad, regardless of numbers both forms of bigotry seems (or seemed) to have been allowed to fester under the past or present regimes.
I’m sure that this wasn’t your intention but you seemed to have excused one form of racism over another. |
And what is more the media are even playing along with making this a story about the safety of MP's! | |
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| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 19:41 - Feb 28 with 1661 views | bournemouthblue |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 18:34 - Feb 28 by lowhouseblue |
bigotry and intolerance is something i expect from both the tories and the hard left. but labour being infiltrated by it upset me greatly. but you're just a troll alas. |
it would be silly not to be upset when the Tories are guilty of embracing the hard right, which they have
The Ipswich Conservative have had several incidents themselves
If people are willing to attack Labour for anti-semitism on a relentless basis but then turn a blind eye to things like this, when it's their own who are guilty of it, you do have to question their motivations
It starts to look like politicking you have to say | |
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| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 19:46 - Feb 28 with 1648 views | lowhouseblue |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 19:41 - Feb 28 by bournemouthblue |
it would be silly not to be upset when the Tories are guilty of embracing the hard right, which they have
The Ipswich Conservative have had several incidents themselves
If people are willing to attack Labour for anti-semitism on a relentless basis but then turn a blind eye to things like this, when it's their own who are guilty of it, you do have to question their motivations
It starts to look like politicking you have to say |
who's turning a blind eye to it? the tories include bigots and racists. add it to the long list of reasons not to support them. but my party should be much better than that, but for a while it wasn't. labour becoming electable again by shedding a bunch of bigots and racists seems a good enough motivation. | |
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| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 19:50 - Feb 28 with 1624 views | GlasgowBlue |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 19:41 - Feb 28 by bournemouthblue |
it would be silly not to be upset when the Tories are guilty of embracing the hard right, which they have
The Ipswich Conservative have had several incidents themselves
If people are willing to attack Labour for anti-semitism on a relentless basis but then turn a blind eye to things like this, when it's their own who are guilty of it, you do have to question their motivations
It starts to look like politicking you have to say |
Can I just turn this around.
If people are willing to attack the Tories for Islamophobia on a relentless basis but then turn a blind eye to antisemitism, when it's their own who are guilty of it, you do have to question their motivations
It starts to look like politicking you have to say
You've been a very vocal Labour supporter on here over the years. Can you lin k me to a single post you made in the past ten years where you have spoken out against antisemitism in the Labour party. I genuinely can't remember one.
Obvioulsy if you can link one then you have my sincere apologies. | |
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| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 22:05 - Feb 28 with 1518 views | bournemouthblue |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 19:46 - Feb 28 by lowhouseblue |
who's turning a blind eye to it? the tories include bigots and racists. add it to the long list of reasons not to support them. but my party should be much better than that, but for a while it wasn't. labour becoming electable again by shedding a bunch of bigots and racists seems a good enough motivation. |
The Tory Party at the moment with their 'it's wrong line', seem to be in active denial right now
I can't tell you the ins and outs on what Sir Keir has done to root out anti-semitism in the party but commend the party's work on this issue, I'm sure Keir Starmer will have had involvement in that, at least I hope he would have done
Nobody wants Jewish people scared to support Labour, particularly when the Tories have been actively chasing the hard right vote for some time now
I always felt that was the real crime of the last election, you get rid of Corbyn but then end up with Boris backed by nutters like Tom Hunt
I'm not convinced the same scrutiny has been placed on the Tories in regards to Islamaphobia, I hope this case has flagged it up for all to see and the media will hold them to account on this
I won't hold my breath on that one though [Post edited 28 Feb 2024 22:06]
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| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 22:37 - Feb 28 with 1483 views | GlasgowBlue |
| If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... on 22:05 - Feb 28 by bournemouthblue |
The Tory Party at the moment with their 'it's wrong line', seem to be in active denial right now
I can't tell you the ins and outs on what Sir Keir has done to root out anti-semitism in the party but commend the party's work on this issue, I'm sure Keir Starmer will have had involvement in that, at least I hope he would have done
Nobody wants Jewish people scared to support Labour, particularly when the Tories have been actively chasing the hard right vote for some time now
I always felt that was the real crime of the last election, you get rid of Corbyn but then end up with Boris backed by nutters like Tom Hunt
I'm not convinced the same scrutiny has been placed on the Tories in regards to Islamaphobia, I hope this case has flagged it up for all to see and the media will hold them to account on this
I won't hold my breath on that one though [Post edited 28 Feb 2024 22:06]
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If this had been the case with Labour members under Corbyn... by GlasgowBlue 28 Feb 2024 19:50Can I just turn this around.
If people are willing to attack the Tories for Islamophobia on a relentless basis but then turn a blind eye to antisemitism, when it's their own who are guilty of it, you do have to question their motivations
It starts to look like politicking you have to say
You've been a very vocal Labour supporter on here over the years. Can you lin k me to a single post you made in the past ten years where you have spoken out against antisemitism in the Labour party. I genuinely can't remember one.
Obvioulsy if you can link one then you have my sincere apologies.
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