| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man 19:29 - Jun 20 with 1480 views | ghostofescobar |
And I will be the first to admit that I have been a Southgate fan in his England role in the past. But having watch Town at close quarters in the past two years, it’s made me realise (no, reinforced) how advanced KM is in his style of football. Southgate is no risk football, KM is all risk. High risk, high rewards. Englands style suddenly feels quite old fashioned. Football now seems high tempo, England aren’t. And it isn’t as though we don’t have the players. |  |
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| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man on 19:32 - Jun 20 with 1417 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Wait until you get to watch Graham Potter's England in September. |  |
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| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man on 19:35 - Jun 20 with 1397 views | gtsb1966 |
It summed it up for me in the post match interview when he said something about not having Kalvin Phillips in the squad. |  | | |
| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man on 19:37 - Jun 20 with 1378 views | cressi |
| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man on 19:32 - Jun 20 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Wait until you get to watch Graham Potter's England in September. |
His always been like that. I would like a Klopp or a exciting manager nobody under 40  |  | | |
| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man on 19:39 - Jun 20 with 1350 views | Swansea_Blue |
His teams came out of the blocks flying in his early days and we got excited about a false dawn. He’s getting more conservative with age though (don’t a lot?).
You’re right. England feel dated. It’s often about the press these days and playing on the front foot. Southgate is stuck in ‘keep it tight at the back and maybe nick one’ mode. It’s a bit like Pulis’ Stoke, but without a long ball and long throw strategy. It’s currently feeling like a waste of the attacking talent at his disposal.
But, still likely to qualify top of group. Based on what we’ve seen so far though Germany are the complete package, Italy will be too savvy, France too good individually and Spain too mobile for us.
I’ll be amazed if we make the final (but who knows - maybe it’s the year for dull pragmatism). |  |
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| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man on 19:43 - Jun 20 with 1298 views | Guthrum |
| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man on 19:39 - Jun 20 by Swansea_Blue |
His teams came out of the blocks flying in his early days and we got excited about a false dawn. He’s getting more conservative with age though (don’t a lot?).
You’re right. England feel dated. It’s often about the press these days and playing on the front foot. Southgate is stuck in ‘keep it tight at the back and maybe nick one’ mode. It’s a bit like Pulis’ Stoke, but without a long ball and long throw strategy. It’s currently feeling like a waste of the attacking talent at his disposal.
But, still likely to qualify top of group. Based on what we’ve seen so far though Germany are the complete package, Italy will be too savvy, France too good individually and Spain too mobile for us.
I’ll be amazed if we make the final (but who knows - maybe it’s the year for dull pragmatism). |
Dull, yes, but it's not even really pragmatic. If we were going to play a defensive game with the occasional break forward, we ought to have organised and drilled for that. Rather than just wandering onto the pitch with only the vaguest idea of what each other were supposed to be doing. |  |
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| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man on 19:43 - Jun 20 with 1290 views | Ryorry |
Spot on.
How were we ever favourites to win the thing? |  |
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| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man on 19:45 - Jun 20 with 1269 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man on 19:43 - Jun 20 by Guthrum |
Dull, yes, but it's not even really pragmatic. If we were going to play a defensive game with the occasional break forward, we ought to have organised and drilled for that. Rather than just wandering onto the pitch with only the vaguest idea of what each other were supposed to be doing. |
Yes, that’s fair. Just disorganised then. | |
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| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man on 19:46 - Jun 20 with 1247 views | Bramidan |
| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man on 19:35 - Jun 20 by gtsb1966 |
It summed it up for me in the post match interview when he said something about not having Kalvin Phillips in the squad. |
Crab football or whisper it, perhaps our footballers are not that good.
Champions league, even with all the foreign players none of our teams progressed.
Or is it the coach preventing gifted players playing?
Not as attractive football as the Town. | | | |
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| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man on 19:53 - Jun 20 with 1207 views | Guthrum |
| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man on 19:43 - Jun 20 by Ryorry |
Spot on.
How were we ever favourites to win the thing? |
Lots of optimistic English gamblers, presumably. With a dash of journalistic hubris. | |
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| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man on 19:59 - Jun 20 with 1153 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man on 19:46 - Jun 20 by Bramidan |
Crab football or whisper it, perhaps our footballers are not that good.
Champions league, even with all the foreign players none of our teams progressed.
Or is it the coach preventing gifted players playing?
Not as attractive football as the Town. |
I do sometimes wonder if some of them are being carried a bit in their clubs. There aren’t that many who are leaders in their clubs. Man C and Liverpool players all have better players/leaders around them, for example (Rodri, De Bruyne, van Dijk, etc.).
Not that our players are bad of course. We see examples of their individual qualities every week, until they pull on an England shirt at a tournament. So I think it’s largely Southgate’s mindset that he imparts on them. [Post edited 20 Jun 2024 20:00]
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| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man on 20:04 - Jun 20 with 1105 views | Churchman |
| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man on 19:59 - Jun 20 by Swansea_Blue |
I do sometimes wonder if some of them are being carried a bit in their clubs. There aren’t that many who are leaders in their clubs. Man C and Liverpool players all have better players/leaders around them, for example (Rodri, De Bruyne, van Dijk, etc.).
Not that our players are bad of course. We see examples of their individual qualities every week, until they pull on an England shirt at a tournament. So I think it’s largely Southgate’s mindset that he imparts on them. [Post edited 20 Jun 2024 20:00]
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Maybe, but that rabble looked like a load of raffle ticket winners from the Dog and Duck after winning the turn out for England competition. |  | | |
| Southgate suddenly feels like yesterdays man on 20:07 - Jun 20 with 1080 views | jontysnut |
He just looked bewildered by it all |  | | |
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