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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... 09:11 - Jul 3 with 15215 viewsKieran_Knows

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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:07 - Jul 3 with 2881 viewsWeirdFishes

I’d love for us to get this done, but the pessimist in me just can’t see it. Too much competition from more established clubs.

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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:10 - Jul 3 with 2835 viewsHighgateBlue

I don't know what's weirder: that Ipswich Town are bidding £30m for two players, or that Hull City have two players worth £30m!

This is very exciting stuff. Two absolute class players, and just the sort of additions that we need! Philogene is, with respect, a big upgrade on Sarmiento, and Greaves is probably an upgrade on either of our starting CBs.

Can't think of two better (realistic) signings in these positions, and we're pushing the bounds of what is realistic, which is always good to see.

Fingers and everything else crossed...
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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:10 - Jul 3 with 2833 viewsitfcsuth

That’s a lot of money for them two.
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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:11 - Jul 3 with 2806 viewsBiGDonnie

£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 09:23 - Jul 3 by ITFCBlues

Don't thibk that gets their attention for Greaves when they'd like 20m. Think you'd be looking at 40m for the pair.

Would we really be in for Philogene when we've just signed Hutch?


Yes ,they play in completely different positions and we only have B'head for the wide left position.

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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:12 - Jul 3 with 2801 viewsTRUE_BLUE123

£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:10 - Jul 3 by itfcsuth

That’s a lot of money for them two.


Is it ?

15 million each for 2 of the best young players in England who are going to the Prem this summer.

30 mil would be very good business.

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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:13 - Jul 3 with 2775 viewsheavyweight

Could you see Edmundson, Baggott or even Broadhead or Woolfy moving in the other direction in one of these types of deals ?
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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:14 - Jul 3 with 2773 viewsdirtyboy

£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 09:43 - Jul 3 by Kieran_Knows

It will, without a doubt. But if our starting offer is £30m, you'd like to think we have an understanding of what they're to achieve on both (suspect £20m each), so imagine a deal would get done around £35m, but with it more being loaded towards Greaves for accounting reasons.


I just thought the same.

Hutch we've got for ~£20m, so with age, attributes, pedigree all being very similar, but Philogene slightly older, got your benchmark price right there, slightly less imo (maybe rose tinted glasses)

Greaves I compared to Harwood-Bellis, who, on the face of it, has been through the England set up his entire life, at a top club, whereas Greaves hasn't had that, but, on the more positive side, was in the championship team of the season. Is he £20m? I don't think so, but £35m for both probably right.

Also, as mentioned, bit of wiggle room for FFP or PRS or fudging books, however you want to dress it up.
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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:16 - Jul 3 with 2730 viewstonybied

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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:17 - Jul 3 with 2714 viewsITFC_Josh

£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:10 - Jul 3 by itfcsuth

That’s a lot of money for them two.


It’s the complete opposite. £30mill for the pair is extremely on the low side
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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:19 - Jul 3 with 2674 viewsCheltenham_Blue

£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:16 - Jul 3 by tonybied

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They've been pretty reliable up to now. FLW is the one to avoid.

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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:20 - Jul 3 with 2646 viewsITFCBlues

£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:16 - Jul 3 by tonybied

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Yeah. Pete O'Rouke has credit in the bank.

He's suggested that it's 30m+ in his tweet as well.

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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:22 - Jul 3 with 2607 viewstonybied

£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:19 - Jul 3 by Cheltenham_Blue

They've been pretty reliable up to now. FLW is the one to avoid.


Ah, FLW, I was getting them confused and wondering why people seemed to be taking the story so seriously! Exciting news then!!!
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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:24 - Jul 3 with 2568 viewstractorboy1978

£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:06 - Jul 3 by Simonds92

That would all make sense, but Villa have a buy back option on him. So if we weighted the deal at, say, £12m they would have first option on him, I guess at that price?


https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jaden-philogene-buy

Buy back only applicable if Hull are in the Premier League.
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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:26 - Jul 3 with 2524 viewsGlasgowBlue

£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:07 - Jul 3 by WeirdFishes

I’d love for us to get this done, but the pessimist in me just can’t see it. Too much competition from more established clubs.


Brentford are a bit further ahead of us on their Premier League journey and even they were gazumped on the Archie Gray deal by Spurs.

So I think it is going to be difficult to compete with West Ham and the like for the same players.

If we do then I think we are in for a special season.

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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:29 - Jul 3 with 2448 viewsMidlandBlue25

Interesting, so lets say we sign them both. That's a CB and Winger.

We'll still need two strikers, two goalkeepers, at least one central midfielder and potentially a someone to play in the centre of the three attackers
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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:31 - Jul 3 with 2411 viewstractorboy1978

£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:26 - Jul 3 by GlasgowBlue

Brentford are a bit further ahead of us on their Premier League journey and even they were gazumped on the Archie Gray deal by Spurs.

So I think it is going to be difficult to compete with West Ham and the like for the same players.

If we do then I think we are in for a special season.


Well we've already signed a player West Ham wanted to keep. Let's not underestimate the pulling power of McKenna and his record for improving players. Plus both would have far more chance of first team football here.
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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:46 - Jul 3 with 2217 viewsBloomBlue

If Hull are pricing Greaves at £20m, as originally reported, then that's a joke. Southampton are apparently buying Nathan Wood from Swansea for £5m. Appreciate Greaves has more experience but both are championship players, £10m max for Greaves. Philogene is £15m, so Hull are getting lucky if we've offering £30m combined for the two of them.
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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:56 - Jul 3 with 2098 viewsN2_Blue

£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:46 - Jul 3 by BloomBlue

If Hull are pricing Greaves at £20m, as originally reported, then that's a joke. Southampton are apparently buying Nathan Wood from Swansea for £5m. Appreciate Greaves has more experience but both are championship players, £10m max for Greaves. Philogene is £15m, so Hull are getting lucky if we've offering £30m combined for the two of them.


Sorry but that’s nonsense.

In todays market, 30m for Philogene and Greaves would be fantastic business

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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:58 - Jul 3 with 2060 viewsSheffordBlue

£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:06 - Jul 3 by Simonds92

That would all make sense, but Villa have a buy back option on him. So if we weighted the deal at, say, £12m they would have first option on him, I guess at that price?


Apparently the buy back option is dependent on them being in the same division so won't apply.

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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 11:01 - Jul 3 with 2017 viewstextbackup

£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 09:23 - Jul 3 by ITFCBlues

Don't thibk that gets their attention for Greaves when they'd like 20m. Think you'd be looking at 40m for the pair.

Would we really be in for Philogene when we've just signed Hutch?


If the offer is in I think that goes to show KM thinks we do need to upgrade on Chaplin and Broadhead.

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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 11:03 - Jul 3 with 1966 viewsWeirdFishes

£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:56 - Jul 3 by N2_Blue

Sorry but that’s nonsense.

In todays market, 30m for Philogene and Greaves would be fantastic business


I’d say it also suggest we’re prepared/expecting to pay more than £30m as Hull will obviously demand more.

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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 11:13 - Jul 3 with 1827 viewstractorboy1978

£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 10:46 - Jul 3 by BloomBlue

If Hull are pricing Greaves at £20m, as originally reported, then that's a joke. Southampton are apparently buying Nathan Wood from Swansea for £5m. Appreciate Greaves has more experience but both are championship players, £10m max for Greaves. Philogene is £15m, so Hull are getting lucky if we've offering £30m combined for the two of them.


Bristol City sold Webster for £20m 5 years ago. Your valuation of Greaves is miles off. And Philogene is a similar ball park to Omari.
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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 11:15 - Jul 3 with 1812 viewsKieran_Knows


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£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 11:19 - Jul 3 with 1703 viewsITFCBlues

£30m bid in for Philogene and Greaves from Hull... on 11:15 - Jul 3 by Kieran_Knows



No confirmation on Philogene anywhere.

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