| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? 18:31 - Jul 8 with 3098 views | IP1Blue |
Whilst I’m glad with signings we have made and look likely to make (Philogene,Greaves and maybe one of Downes/Sheaf). The lack of premier league experience in the squad is seriously lacking and feel like at this moment could be damaging.
I’m not saying it’s a complete worry as I’m sure McKenna and Ashton will want this experience and there’s a long way to go in the window however it will be interesting to see the players and the position they play to address this issue.
On a side note, we played Needham Market in a friendly on Saturday morning at playfield Road in a shortened game, in which we won comfortably (unsure if this has been mentioned). |  | | |  |
| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 18:44 - Jul 8 with 3001 views | Meadowlark |
Didn't concern Alf Ramsey....  |  | | |
| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 20:37 - Jul 8 with 2799 views | Guthrum |
It's McKenna who has the experience, at a very high level.
He knows what will be required of the players in terms of physicality, thought processes and techniques. In addition, he has the skills to gat all that across and bring the players on board with what they need to be doing.
Probably more useful than a handful of last-payday old lags who never got above mid table staggering around the pitch on inflated salaries. |  |
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| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 20:42 - Jul 8 with 2769 views | Guthrum |
| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 20:37 - Jul 8 by Guthrum |
It's McKenna who has the experience, at a very high level.
He knows what will be required of the players in terms of physicality, thought processes and techniques. In addition, he has the skills to gat all that across and bring the players on board with what they need to be doing.
Probably more useful than a handful of last-payday old lags who never got above mid table staggering around the pitch on inflated salaries. |
On top of that, our two seasons experience of ferocious struggle will have given the team a steel that probably only Everton and those battling for top spot can match. | |
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| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 21:11 - Jul 8 with 2678 views | FrimleyBlue |
| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 20:37 - Jul 8 by Guthrum |
It's McKenna who has the experience, at a very high level.
He knows what will be required of the players in terms of physicality, thought processes and techniques. In addition, he has the skills to gat all that across and bring the players on board with what they need to be doing.
Probably more useful than a handful of last-payday old lags who never got above mid table staggering around the pitch on inflated salaries. |
Also. Wasn't it KM that made the likes of Rashford. Greenwood, mainoo etc all the prem players they are today. ( I appreciate where greenwood is)
I think we will get a couple of experienced players in. But I imagine he will be looking for players he can work his magic on like he did hutchinson who came as a raw kid and turned him into the player he became in less than a season. |  |
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| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 21:21 - Jul 8 with 2652 views | DinDjarin |
Players have to start somewhere and the calibre of players we are signing will probably be premier league regulars in a season or two. |  | | |
| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 22:28 - Jul 8 with 2417 views | BondiBlue |
| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 20:42 - Jul 8 by Guthrum |
On top of that, our two seasons experience of ferocious struggle will have given the team a steel that probably only Everton and those battling for top spot can match. |
Winning all thr time is very different to losing all the time though. Not saying that's what will happen but it would be good to know there are people in the dressing room who can keep everyone motivated when we do go a few games without a win. I've never been convinced that experience at a particular level is that useful beyond the first few games though, because everyone adapts. | |
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| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 22:35 - Jul 8 with 2371 views | Dubtractor |
FWIW, I'll be happy to get 2 or 3 more seasoned premier league players through the door before the season starts. We saw what happened with Burnley with trying to do it largely with younger players.
My assumption though, is that they are likely to be the types that we get on frees/low fees rather than the bigger money players, with significant resale potential, we're trying to get signed early doors. |  |
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| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 22:38 - Jul 8 with 2330 views | FrimleyBlue |
| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 22:35 - Jul 8 by Dubtractor |
FWIW, I'll be happy to get 2 or 3 more seasoned premier league players through the door before the season starts. We saw what happened with Burnley with trying to do it largely with younger players.
My assumption though, is that they are likely to be the types that we get on frees/low fees rather than the bigger money players, with significant resale potential, we're trying to get signed early doors. |
Still got my hopes on macguire who will no doubt be on the move in this window. | |
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| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 22:41 - Jul 8 with 2327 views | greyhound |
| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 22:35 - Jul 8 by Dubtractor |
FWIW, I'll be happy to get 2 or 3 more seasoned premier league players through the door before the season starts. We saw what happened with Burnley with trying to do it largely with younger players.
My assumption though, is that they are likely to be the types that we get on frees/low fees rather than the bigger money players, with significant resale potential, we're trying to get signed early doors. |
Think money will play a huge part in this. As soon as you add premier league experience it's not just the price tag that rises but you have the challenge of meeting possible established prem wage demands which is what will break a delicate finance balance quickly I should imagine.
I should imagine the accounting and planning that has to go in to balancing all this off is nothing short of a nightmare when jumping to the prem. All with the calculated risk of what the heck do you do if you get relegated. | | | |
| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 22:43 - Jul 8 with 2305 views | Guthrum |
| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 22:28 - Jul 8 by BondiBlue |
Winning all thr time is very different to losing all the time though. Not saying that's what will happen but it would be good to know there are people in the dressing room who can keep everyone motivated when we do go a few games without a win. I've never been convinced that experience at a particular level is that useful beyond the first few games though, because everyone adapts. |
We did go through lean patches both last winter and the one before. Either of them could have proven fatal to morale and chances of success. Neither did.
Getting the last ounce of energy out of the team to snatch wins from unfavourable positions is a useful skill for the group to have, whether battling for the top or to avoid the bottom. | |
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| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 22:54 - Jul 8 with 2237 views | PioneerBlue |
Not matter what we spend within the art of financially possible, it will likely never be enough to give unwavering certainty of the outcome next season. The jump is massive. We did it with a broadly L1 side sprinkled with championship experience. We look like we are going down the route of building the team we had no time nor resources to build last season, that probably gives us the best chance of adapting quickly.
Answering the op. Money talks. I would take an experienced Gk and striker and add energy all over the pitch. I like the idea of targeting defenders and defensive midfielders with running power and creators, create enough and you will take a decent number of those chances even without a £50m target striker. | |
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| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 06:56 - Jul 9 with 1854 views | wkj |
It wouldn't surprise me if KM brings in a MC with experience as we are kind of light in that department. I am not closing the door on Taylor, but I think he's a long way to go to be your go to midfield general in the absence of Morsy. Luongo's fitness is always something to be mindful of too, although we us he's been pretty good.
Who would I draft in? Haven't a clue, but that is the area I am most interested to see a signing for. |  |
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| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 07:16 - Jul 9 with 1764 views | Vic |
| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 20:37 - Jul 8 by Guthrum |
It's McKenna who has the experience, at a very high level.
He knows what will be required of the players in terms of physicality, thought processes and techniques. In addition, he has the skills to gat all that across and bring the players on board with what they need to be doing.
Probably more useful than a handful of last-payday old lags who never got above mid table staggering around the pitch on inflated salaries. |
Your observation about KM’s experience is the crucial thing here. It’s the difference between him and a certain other time when a manager thought he could build a team for the championship by pillaging what he thought were the best players in League 1. We all know how that ended up. |  |
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| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 08:06 - Jul 9 with 1552 views | itfcsuth |
Our transfer business isn’t done.
KMc has always valued the importance of the right experience - Keogh and Aluko spring to mind.
I’m sure we will add some PL experience.
Aaron Cresswell & Che Adams perfect examples. |  | | |
| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 08:09 - Jul 9 with 1539 views | IPSWICHFANITFC |
I thought this a while ago but I'm slowly coming to the fact that it might not be as big of a concern now.
I think we will add maybe 1 or 2 more who have the experience at a higher level (whether that's the premier league or the top leagues abroad), but we've got lads in the squad who have played international football and over the last 2 seasons, the squad have gone through high pressure moments and come through them to get over the line.
The most important thing is keeping a core group of players together who have been on this journey for 2 years and know each other inside out - which we have done. |  |
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| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 08:24 - Jul 9 with 1469 views | Len_Brennan |
I'm thinking that we may be looking at the 2 domestic loan slots that we have for bringing in Premier League experienced players. Less risk if the unthinkable happens, but a possible deal to be done upon staying up.
Such loan moves only tend to go through late in the window however. | | | |
| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 08:38 - Jul 9 with 1367 views | BiGDonnie |
Who would you rather we sign? Experienced premier league players will be on £100k a week or more if they’re still good enough.
I’m more than happy with the players we’re linked with.
Let’s just trust in McKenna, Ashton and the team to get it right. |  |
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| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 08:42 - Jul 9 with 1342 views | Garv |
McKenna could sign Sam Parkin to play upfront every game next season and I'd still have faith.
We'll be fine. |  |
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| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 08:49 - Jul 9 with 1308 views | Churchman |
No, I’m not worried at all. The key people, McKenna and his team, know what’s required.
The last thing we need is pension seekers, Harry bring your own treatment table Maguire, failed throw outs from Luton etc, talented but troublesome players or journeymen looking for a payday.
In 2000 there wasn’t too much PL experience and that went ok. Sometimes the fresh unknown no fear approach is the way to go.
It’s all about the mix of characters, the attitude, the balance - all the things England seem to lack and McKenna’s team last two seasons didn’t. |  | | |
| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 08:51 - Jul 9 with 1297 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
You’ll win nowt with kids  |  |
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| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 09:01 - Jul 9 with 1239 views | Reus30 |
Don't need to sign someone because they have played a couple of games in the prem.
Even if we went with the squad as it is right now (sans GK), I wouldn't be worried. But we will make acquisitions and players will leave and it will be fine. Have faith. We have had 6 great transfer windows under GC, this is already another but we will improve. |  | | |
| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 09:04 - Jul 9 with 1222 views | goperryrevs |
As others have said, the most important Premier League experience is that of our manager. Regarding players, I think it's an overused phrase. The only reason it really counts these days is VAR - you have to play differently in the PL as you can't get away with things that you'd get away with lower down the leagues. But McKenna will be aware of that and will coach the players accordingly.
Other than that, yes, a couple of experienced heads are important, but they're always important in any squad. The right player can become successful wherever they've come from and played before. Look at someone like Adam Wharton - he didn't have any PL experience, and a few months after signing for Palace he's in the England squad. That's the kind of player we're trying to sign.
The counter argument is that it didn't work for Burnley or Luton. But rather than the lesson being that you can't succeed without PL experience, I think the better lesson is that it's getting the right players in, with the right attributes - and I definitely trust our management team to do that. | | | |
| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 09:33 - Jul 9 with 1126 views | gordon |
Think it's more about making sure we have enough positive, supportive, vocal leaders in the group who can pick the team up and keep us going during the times when it's inevitably going to be tough, rather than having specific experience of playing in a particular League that we need. |  | | |
| The lack of Premier League experience a concern? on 09:54 - Jul 9 with 1089 views | tetchris |
Rather have a group of hungry young players playing without fear than a load of players at the end of their careers looking for one last pay day. | | | |
| Nah, let's see how we get on with these mercurial youngsters on 10:09 - Jul 9 with 1062 views | Dyland |
Fook it. It's been such a splendid two years I couldn't give too much of a hoot tbh. Sure, I'd like to compete and be in the top flight, but it's not the same playing field these days and I find it hard to care THAT much about the Prem. What will be will be and I'm simply looking forward to seeing if McK can make a decent fist of it and hang around maybe a couple more years. If not, so be it.
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