| JP - Agent 10:57 - Jul 9 with 3853 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
After a dig about JP is by FAR his biggest client and possibly not as experienced as say CAA base and those agencies hence the Barca PR stunt.
I would think it will be the biggest ever pay day for agent, will help them develop their other players so I assume they will push him where the dough is.
This the game we are involved in now.
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| JP - Agent on 10:59 - Jul 9 with 3020 views | hype313 |
Ashton has stated he won't be held to ransom by agents, I wonder if he calls his bluff and says a decision by x or we move on. |  |
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| JP - Agent on 11:00 - Jul 9 with 3027 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Yep. Keep seeing fans on twitter moaning about his agent.
Not sure what they want him to do, not get his player the best deal? Same with KMs agent. They are just doing their job. |  |
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| JP - Agent on 11:00 - Jul 9 with 3004 views | portmanking |
So call is bloody bluff. Tell him to stop playing silly beggars. If he doesn't want to play for McKenna and Town then let us know so we can move on ASAP. | | | |
| JP - Agent on 11:01 - Jul 9 with 2978 views | pointofblue |
| JP - Agent on 11:00 - Jul 9 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Yep. Keep seeing fans on twitter moaning about his agent.
Not sure what they want him to do, not get his player the best deal? Same with KMs agent. They are just doing their job. |
They're not trying to get the best deal for their client. They're trying to get the best deal for themselves. | |
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| JP - Agent on 11:02 - Jul 9 with 2953 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| JP - Agent on 11:00 - Jul 9 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Yep. Keep seeing fans on twitter moaning about his agent.
Not sure what they want him to do, not get his player the best deal? Same with KMs agent. They are just doing their job. |
My day job hunch is the agency are new ish and this has come about quick smart and they are not ready for it, i hope they know how to PDF a contract... | | | |
| JP - Agent on 11:03 - Jul 9 with 2905 views | MidlandBlue25 |
| JP - Agent on 10:59 - Jul 9 by hype313 |
Ashton has stated he won't be held to ransom by agents, I wonder if he calls his bluff and says a decision by x or we move on. |
The thing is he will, that's the Premier League. If he wants the players everyone else is after then its an agents game | | | |
| JP - Agent on 11:03 - Jul 9 with 2880 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| JP - Agent on 11:01 - Jul 9 by pointofblue |
They're not trying to get the best deal for their client. They're trying to get the best deal for themselves. |
Spot on. This would be worth possibly millions in % to the agent the next years and who's other players are youth players basically and might not make it. | | | |
| JP - Agent on 11:04 - Jul 9 with 2876 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| JP - Agent on 11:01 - Jul 9 by pointofblue |
They're not trying to get the best deal for their client. They're trying to get the best deal for themselves. |
Im sure there is part of that as well. Which is business I guess especially at the top level.
But he is clearly playing the field which is likely to increase JPs wages/clauses as well. That is what agents do. That is what i would want my agent to do as well. [Post edited 9 Jul 11:05]
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| JP - Agent on 11:06 - Jul 9 with 2792 views | itfcjoe |
| JP - Agent on 11:01 - Jul 9 by pointofblue |
They're not trying to get the best deal for their client. They're trying to get the best deal for themselves. |
We don't know that, it could easily be argued that Everton is the best move for him to make |  |
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| JP - Agent on 11:07 - Jul 9 with 2756 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| JP - Agent on 11:04 - Jul 9 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Im sure there is part of that as well. Which is business I guess especially at the top level.
But he is clearly playing the field which is likely to increase JPs wages/clauses as well. That is what agents do. That is what i would want my agent to do as well. [Post edited 9 Jul 11:05]
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If i repped the player and I do something very similar professionally I would take every penny I could as this might never happen again and will set you up for life. It's a once in a life time deal like finding Oasis playing in a pub ha | | | |
| JP - Agent on 11:08 - Jul 9 with 2710 views | portmanking |
| JP - Agent on 11:06 - Jul 9 by itfcjoe |
We don't know that, it could easily be argued that Everton is the best move for him to make |
I don't see how it's the best move for him though? The club is an absolute mess, in 600+ million of debt and Dyche is a shadow of the manager Kieran is.
The only thing they have going for them is a new plastic stadium in 12 months' time. | | | |
| JP - Agent on 11:11 - Jul 9 with 2651 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| JP - Agent on 11:08 - Jul 9 by portmanking |
I don't see how it's the best move for him though? The club is an absolute mess, in 600+ million of debt and Dyche is a shadow of the manager Kieran is.
The only thing they have going for them is a new plastic stadium in 12 months' time. |
That is very harsh on Sean Dyche.
His football might be agricultural at times but he is a proven Prem manager. Who has took a lesser team in to Europe before and managed Everton to a superb defensive record last season. Lets not get above our station. | |
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| Let's reword it slightly on 11:13 - Jul 9 with 2613 views | Dyland |
| JP - Agent on 11:08 - Jul 9 by portmanking |
I don't see how it's the best move for him though? The club is an absolute mess, in 600+ million of debt and Dyche is a shadow of the manager Kieran is.
The only thing they have going for them is a new plastic stadium in 12 months' time. |
Dyche is a shadow of the coach Kieran is.
Disregarding the wages for a second, it would be a very shortsighted move to play for Dyche over McKenna. Maybe he and his agent aren't as aware of that as some at ITFC though, so whatever.
EDIT: was meant to be a response to Truers re Dyche... [Post edited 9 Jul 11:14]
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| JP - Agent on 11:15 - Jul 9 with 2576 views | portmanking |
| JP - Agent on 11:11 - Jul 9 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
That is very harsh on Sean Dyche.
His football might be agricultural at times but he is a proven Prem manager. Who has took a lesser team in to Europe before and managed Everton to a superb defensive record last season. Lets not get above our station. |
Yeah, good point. As another poster has said, KMac is a 100000% better *coach* than Dyche.
His football is agricultural, there's no getting away from it. Why his agent would want him shoehorned in there can only be for one thing (£££). | | | |
| JP - Agent on 11:21 - Jul 9 with 2492 views | BlueBlood90 |
Well I can't imagine many players would want this circus clown representing them after all this. If Philogene has any sense he would also cut ties with him after the deal is done (wherever that may be). |  |
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| JP - Agent on 11:21 - Jul 9 with 2491 views | davblue |
| JP - Agent on 11:11 - Jul 9 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
That is very harsh on Sean Dyche.
His football might be agricultural at times but he is a proven Prem manager. Who has took a lesser team in to Europe before and managed Everton to a superb defensive record last season. Lets not get above our station. |
Dyche is a very good manager and proven in the Premier league which McKenna is not yet....
Dyche's body of work is more impressive than McKenna's, he's done good jobs wherever he's been. The Everton job he done last year was very impressive with everything that happened. |  | | |
| JP - Agent on 11:24 - Jul 9 with 2433 views | RobTheMonk |
| JP - Agent on 11:21 - Jul 9 by davblue |
Dyche is a very good manager and proven in the Premier league which McKenna is not yet....
Dyche's body of work is more impressive than McKenna's, he's done good jobs wherever he's been. The Everton job he done last year was very impressive with everything that happened. |
Agreed. Did exceptionally well with Burnley and somehow steadied Everton last season. |  | | |
| JP - Agent on 11:26 - Jul 9 with 2391 views | tractorboy1978 |
| JP - Agent on 11:21 - Jul 9 by davblue |
Dyche is a very good manager and proven in the Premier league which McKenna is not yet....
Dyche's body of work is more impressive than McKenna's, he's done good jobs wherever he's been. The Everton job he done last year was very impressive with everything that happened. |
Largely irrelevant though IMO.
Flair players like Philogene need to be 'showcased' and I'd have thought if his agent had any sense he would see the long term value. More chance to shine in this McKenna team and get a big move elsewhere than at Everton. And that is pretty much what he has used Hull for as well even though they didn't have any tangible success. Peterborough have done it for years with strikers as well. | | | |
| JP - Agent on 11:28 - Jul 9 with 2367 views | nodge_blue |
I don't mind an agent pursuing the best for his player but he should be showing us a bit more respect and doing it under the radar a bit rather than putting it on social media. |  |
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| JP - Agent on 11:31 - Jul 9 with 2315 views | itfcjoe |
| JP - Agent on 11:08 - Jul 9 by portmanking |
I don't see how it's the best move for him though? The club is an absolute mess, in 600+ million of debt and Dyche is a shadow of the manager Kieran is.
The only thing they have going for them is a new plastic stadium in 12 months' time. |
An experienced PL manager, and going to club that the bookies rank as much less likely to go down than us
We all love McK, and he's done brilliantly at developing players but there are good arguments as to why all of the clubs linked are the best move. Not like he's choosing between Man City and Macclesfield | |
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| JP - Agent on 11:40 - Jul 9 with 2163 views | ReusersTown |
| JP - Agent on 11:21 - Jul 9 by davblue |
Dyche is a very good manager and proven in the Premier league which McKenna is not yet....
Dyche's body of work is more impressive than McKenna's, he's done good jobs wherever he's been. The Everton job he done last year was very impressive with everything that happened. |
But whilst he has done a very good job wherever he's been his style and approach isn't one that has showcased wingers or attacking talents at all. Through that prism it's clear that working under McKenna is likely to be a better move for him | | | |
| JP - Agent on 11:42 - Jul 9 with 2131 views | ReusersTown |
| JP - Agent on 11:31 - Jul 9 by itfcjoe |
An experienced PL manager, and going to club that the bookies rank as much less likely to go down than us
We all love McK, and he's done brilliantly at developing players but there are good arguments as to why all of the clubs linked are the best move. Not like he's choosing between Man City and Macclesfield |
Who was the last winger / attacking talent to further their career with Dyche as their manager? | | | |
| JP - Agent on 11:42 - Jul 9 with 2143 views | dirtyboy |
| JP - Agent on 11:31 - Jul 9 by itfcjoe |
An experienced PL manager, and going to club that the bookies rank as much less likely to go down than us
We all love McK, and he's done brilliantly at developing players but there are good arguments as to why all of the clubs linked are the best move. Not like he's choosing between Man City and Macclesfield |
Agreed
Some people need to take a reality check, we all love our club, manager and players, but to suggest McKenna is better than Dyche is hugely disingenuous to Dyche who's proven himself over and over.
He too got Burnley promoted like we've done, and in decent fashion - twice, and a 7th place PL finish!
He's a top top manager and probably should have had a better gig than Everton, but he's not sexy or foreign. |  | | |
| JP - Agent on 11:45 - Jul 9 with 2104 views | MattinLondon |
| JP - Agent on 11:01 - Jul 9 by pointofblue |
They're not trying to get the best deal for their client. They're trying to get the best deal for themselves. |
If JP was 32 then I might agree with you but he’s 22. If he plays well here and maybe becomes an England international then his value will shoot up. If he moves on to a bigger then then an even bigger club overseas might well come in for him.
If the agent is simply looking out for himself then his good deal now will have gone in a couple or few years time. |  | | |
| JP - Agent on 11:45 - Jul 9 with 2098 views | BloomBlue |
| JP - Agent on 11:26 - Jul 9 by tractorboy1978 |
Largely irrelevant though IMO.
Flair players like Philogene need to be 'showcased' and I'd have thought if his agent had any sense he would see the long term value. More chance to shine in this McKenna team and get a big move elsewhere than at Everton. And that is pretty much what he has used Hull for as well even though they didn't have any tangible success. Peterborough have done it for years with strikers as well. |
Trouble is we all look at it with our Ipswich specs on. Everton have been in the Prem from the start, they avoided relegation last season even with point deductions. Everton to a non Town spec'ed player is a big draw. He might even look at the fact a flair player like Jack Harrison moved there
I still think he will join us but to simply dismiss Everton as a basket case, when Town have been out of the Prem for 20 years is crazy. |  | | |
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