| Szmodics - Alan Nixon 09:10 - Aug 11 with 16741 views | SitfcB |
Ipswich are haggling over a deal for Blackburn Rovers
striker Sammie Szmodics - and are bizarrely just
£500,000 apart.
The clubs have been debating the guaranteed sum
starting point and Ipswich are at £8.5 million but won't
budge to the £9 million demanded.
The package for Szmodics includes extras for goals
bonuses, a survival bonus and even a promotion bonus
if Ipswich go down and then come back up in 2025-26.
However the negotiators cannot sort out the first sum
to the frustration of all parties and the player. |  |
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| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:14 - Aug 11 with 8907 views | SheffordBlue |
With the amount we'll have saved in wages for the month this has been going on and the amount Rovers will have paid in wages that £500k will be disappearing at a rapid rate of knots! |  |
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| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:15 - Aug 11 with 8893 views | Chris_ITFC |
Fine, negotiate. But at this point, pay it or move on. |  | | |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:16 - Aug 11 with 8846 views | ibbleobble |
Thought you were right with your assessment saying this won’t conclude until after the Venkys have been to court on the 20th. | | | |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:22 - Aug 11 with 8716 views | RegencyBlue |
Assuming that’s true there must be something more behind it than just that surely?
Half a million to the likes of me is a fortune but in PL terms it’s peanuts! |  | | |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:24 - Aug 11 with 8632 views | portmanking |
If we really are quibbling over £500k, this really is foolhardy. Sounds like Ashton trying to be narcissistic and taking the upper hand. £9m for a player in the form of his life. Just get it done this week FFS. | | | |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:25 - Aug 11 with 8610 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:22 - Aug 11 by RegencyBlue |
Assuming that’s true there must be something more behind it than just that surely?
Half a million to the likes of me is a fortune but in PL terms it’s peanuts! |
It’s because we offered what they wanted originally, then they moved the goalposts. [Post edited 11 Aug 9:26]
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| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:25 - Aug 11 with 8613 views | Zx1988 |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:22 - Aug 11 by RegencyBlue |
Assuming that’s true there must be something more behind it than just that surely?
Half a million to the likes of me is a fortune but in PL terms it’s peanuts! |
It feels as if it could be a point of principle.
If BR previously demanded £8.5m, which Town are now offering, and have now revised their demanded price, I feel as if Town are absolutely in the right not to go higher.
If £8.5m becomes £9m once the demand is met, what's to say that £9m won't become £10m? | |
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| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:26 - Aug 11 with 8576 views | Wakh |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:22 - Aug 11 by RegencyBlue |
Assuming that’s true there must be something more behind it than just that surely?
Half a million to the likes of me is a fortune but in PL terms it’s peanuts! |
I would imagine we have met their valuation only for them to push it up further on potential interest rather than actual interest. | | | |
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| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:29 - Aug 11 with 8438 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:22 - Aug 11 by RegencyBlue |
Assuming that’s true there must be something more behind it than just that surely?
Half a million to the likes of me is a fortune but in PL terms it’s peanuts! |
Problem is, if we back down and agree to pay it;
a) Do we look like pussies for future negotiations? "Just hold out and they'll cave."
b) Do Blackburn whack the price up again? |  |
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| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:29 - Aug 11 with 8391 views | portmanking |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:25 - Aug 11 by Zx1988 |
It feels as if it could be a point of principle.
If BR previously demanded £8.5m, which Town are now offering, and have now revised their demanded price, I feel as if Town are absolutely in the right not to go higher.
If £8.5m becomes £9m once the demand is met, what's to say that £9m won't become £10m? |
Then you caveat it. Say, okay we're prepared to bend to 9m on this occasion but if you move the goalposts again the entire move is off. You'd soon find things get finalised. Town hierarchy have been burnt by Blackburn too much before so are trying to give them a taste of their medicine, to our detriment IMO. | | | |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:32 - Aug 11 with 8305 views | Zx1988 |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:29 - Aug 11 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Problem is, if we back down and agree to pay it;
a) Do we look like pussies for future negotiations? "Just hold out and they'll cave."
b) Do Blackburn whack the price up again? |
My other thought is that, although £500k is small in terms of PL budgets, it's still the sort of money that could impact other transfers/negotiations.
Imagine the uproar if Ashton accedes to Rovers' demands, and then it becomes clear at a later date that another transfer didn't happen because we then couldn't pay the additional £500k needed to secure that particular player. | |
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| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:36 - Aug 11 with 8197 views | Wakh |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:32 - Aug 11 by Zx1988 |
My other thought is that, although £500k is small in terms of PL budgets, it's still the sort of money that could impact other transfers/negotiations.
Imagine the uproar if Ashton accedes to Rovers' demands, and then it becomes clear at a later date that another transfer didn't happen because we then couldn't pay the additional £500k needed to secure that particular player. |
But that’s what we’ve done. So do we caveat it again and again and again. That’s not caveating.
Sorry reply meant for portmanking [Post edited 11 Aug 9:39]
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| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:41 - Aug 11 with 8013 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:24 - Aug 11 by portmanking |
If we really are quibbling over £500k, this really is foolhardy. Sounds like Ashton trying to be narcissistic and taking the upper hand. £9m for a player in the form of his life. Just get it done this week FFS. |
You realise how important it is for other clubs to know that you won't be bullied?
If it is true that we offered what was asked and they then shifted the goal posts- if we give in to that once, every club we deal with will know its an option. | | | |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:43 - Aug 11 with 7959 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:29 - Aug 11 by portmanking |
Then you caveat it. Say, okay we're prepared to bend to 9m on this occasion but if you move the goalposts again the entire move is off. You'd soon find things get finalised. Town hierarchy have been burnt by Blackburn too much before so are trying to give them a taste of their medicine, to our detriment IMO. |
I think we've already done that though. Initially it was £8m + £2m and we went to £8.5m after the goal posts moved. And now they've been moved again by the looks of it. They are just a terrible club to deal with, this is exactly what happened with Gallagher last January as well. | | | |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:45 - Aug 11 with 7906 views | portmanking |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:41 - Aug 11 by redrickstuhaart |
You realise how important it is for other clubs to know that you won't be bullied?
If it is true that we offered what was asked and they then shifted the goal posts- if we give in to that once, every club we deal with will know its an option. |
So, as I said, we're just trying to save face while denying Szmodics a chance to train with the squad and get up to speed.
Also, if Szmodics keeps scoring between now and the end of the month, who's to say Blackburn won't (justifiably) ask for much more than £9m? | | | |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:59 - Aug 11 with 7575 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:41 - Aug 11 by redrickstuhaart |
You realise how important it is for other clubs to know that you won't be bullied?
If it is true that we offered what was asked and they then shifted the goal posts- if we give in to that once, every club we deal with will know its an option. |
If that is the case, we should pull out of the deal entirely and tell the world why. Longer term that will cause far more damage for Blackburn in their ability to trade with other clubs and even sign players, who will be wary of being shafted by them | |
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| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:59 - Aug 11 with 7558 views | ArchiRob |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:26 - Aug 11 by Wakh |
I would imagine we have met their valuation only for them to push it up further on potential interest rather than actual interest. |
Is there more to the Blackburn stance than meets the eye ? Would they rather hang on to him but he wants to play in the Premiership and they have indicated that they will release him. If they make the only team that have bid walk away because they are mucking around they will get to keep him while it is not ostensibly their fault? Just seems madness that they both cannot meet over 500k |  |
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| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 10:00 - Aug 11 with 7545 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:43 - Aug 11 by tractorboy1978 |
I think we've already done that though. Initially it was £8m + £2m and we went to £8.5m after the goal posts moved. And now they've been moved again by the looks of it. They are just a terrible club to deal with, this is exactly what happened with Gallagher last January as well. |
The goal posts moved because Blackburn’s bid for a Dutch keeper was £500,000 short of the asking price.
Situation has changed now as the Dutch keeper has signed for French club.
Ashton is right to stand his ground. Hopefully Szmodics will sign before midday Thursday. |  |
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| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 10:01 - Aug 11 with 7536 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:24 - Aug 11 by portmanking |
If we really are quibbling over £500k, this really is foolhardy. Sounds like Ashton trying to be narcissistic and taking the upper hand. £9m for a player in the form of his life. Just get it done this week FFS. |
If you were taking this deal in complete isolation and we didn't have to make any future signings you might have a point. But Ashton has to conduct business in every single window and the minute you show weakness and the propensity to keep upping an offer (particularly after and agreed amount) you will quickly find every club taking you for mugs in the window.
We need to bring 2-3 more in but we aren't desperate to overpay for players. This is just fans impatience not the clubs.
Yes we would like to have got those players in earlier. But we'll do it right. [Post edited 11 Aug 10:03]
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| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 10:02 - Aug 11 with 7521 views | Guthrum |
The question, for me, is from whence did Nixon get his information and what does that suggest about it's intention.
Was it a Town source trying to make Blackburn look petty and dishonest?
Was it a Blackburn source trying to do the reverse?
Was it the player's agent trying to up the price a bit without compromising the chances of it actually happening?
Or is it not def info at all, but an educated guess from an experienced journalist's reading of the situation? |  |
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| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 10:04 - Aug 11 with 7407 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:59 - Aug 11 by ArchiRob |
Is there more to the Blackburn stance than meets the eye ? Would they rather hang on to him but he wants to play in the Premiership and they have indicated that they will release him. If they make the only team that have bid walk away because they are mucking around they will get to keep him while it is not ostensibly their fault? Just seems madness that they both cannot meet over 500k |
Town are right to hold firm our side, if the court case goes against Venky on the 20th, They're not in a position to be asking for more money, in fact we might even be able to get Szmodics for less than they originally wanted anyway. |  |
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| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 10:08 - Aug 11 with 7341 views | ITFCBlues |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 10:02 - Aug 11 by Guthrum |
The question, for me, is from whence did Nixon get his information and what does that suggest about it's intention.
Was it a Town source trying to make Blackburn look petty and dishonest?
Was it a Blackburn source trying to do the reverse?
Was it the player's agent trying to up the price a bit without compromising the chances of it actually happening?
Or is it not def info at all, but an educated guess from an experienced journalist's reading of the situation? |
It'll 100% be a Blackburn source. He's well connected there and Phil has pretty much confirmed the same story recently as well |  |
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| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 10:13 - Aug 11 with 7227 views | Bobbychase |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:25 - Aug 11 by Zx1988 |
It feels as if it could be a point of principle.
If BR previously demanded £8.5m, which Town are now offering, and have now revised their demanded price, I feel as if Town are absolutely in the right not to go higher.
If £8.5m becomes £9m once the demand is met, what's to say that £9m won't become £10m? |
Exactly |  |
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| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 10:19 - Aug 11 with 7068 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 10:04 - Aug 11 by FrimleyBlue |
Town are right to hold firm our side, if the court case goes against Venky on the 20th, They're not in a position to be asking for more money, in fact we might even be able to get Szmodics for less than they originally wanted anyway. |
I’d love it if at that point we shafted them by pulling out of the deal completely 😂😂 | |
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| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 10:21 - Aug 11 with 7036 views | HighgateBlue |
| Szmodics - Alan Nixon on 09:24 - Aug 11 by portmanking |
If we really are quibbling over £500k, this really is foolhardy. Sounds like Ashton trying to be narcissistic and taking the upper hand. £9m for a player in the form of his life. Just get it done this week FFS. |
I think it's impossible to know who's fault it is. Even though Blackburn has some strange owners, I don't think it's fair to blame them without evidence, but the same goes for Ashton.
However, I agree it's silly to fight over that sort of sum while the player makes hay for another club (and strengthens their negotiating stance in the process - the 'one season wonder' tag will pretty soon be untenable). We need him learning about our system, forming partnerships with the players, and improving under Kieran. |  | | |
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