| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow 17:00 - Aug 19 with 2354 views | Vic |
Wow - that was crazy and was so lucky to stay on the pitch. I was half expecting a VAR to pick it up it was so blatant! |  |
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| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 17:02 - Aug 19 with 2306 views | J2BLUE |
I was very surprised he came out for the second half after that. |  |
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| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 17:03 - Aug 19 with 2292 views | FrimleyBlue |
He was saved as the ref didn't see it so var couldn't give it as a clear and obvious error. That's my thoughts. |  |
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| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 17:03 - Aug 19 with 2288 views | LeoMuff |
Was a very lucky boy, however his first yellow was bobbins. |  |
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| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 17:09 - Aug 19 with 2213 views | Garv |
Presume VAR can't intervene there because it's only a yellow card offence, albeit it would have led to a red.
Sort of wish he had seen red now, it would have saved him the injury! [Post edited 19 Aug 17:10]
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| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 17:15 - Aug 19 with 2128 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 17:03 - Aug 19 by FrimleyBlue |
He was saved as the ref didn't see it so var couldn't give it as a clear and obvious error. That's my thoughts. |
Ref did see it because he gave Liverpool a free kick. |  | | |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 17:19 - Aug 19 with 2088 views | portmanking |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 17:03 - Aug 19 by LeoMuff |
Was a very lucky boy, however his first yellow was bobbins. |
This. I think the ref knew Burns' first yellow was soft in the extreme, so turned a blind eye. Had he not already been booked that would've been a yellow, no questions asked. | | | |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 17:24 - Aug 19 with 2042 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 17:15 - Aug 19 by tractorboy1978 |
Ref did see it because he gave Liverpool a free kick. |
Wasn't that for a foul tho not handball? | |
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| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 17:27 - Aug 19 with 2024 views | Cafe_Newman |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 17:02 - Aug 19 by J2BLUE |
I was very surprised he came out for the second half after that. |
Me too. It would have saved him a thigh strain injury as well. |  | | |
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| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 17:27 - Aug 19 with 2028 views | Dennyx4 |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 17:03 - Aug 19 by FrimleyBlue |
He was saved as the ref didn't see it so var couldn't give it as a clear and obvious error. That's my thoughts. |
VAR doesn’t look at yellow card offences. Even if the ref had given Burns a second yellow, VAR would not get involved.
VAR will only look at straight red cards. |  | | |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 18:17 - Aug 19 with 1798 views | Scuzzer |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 17:19 - Aug 19 by portmanking |
This. I think the ref knew Burns' first yellow was soft in the extreme, so turned a blind eye. Had he not already been booked that would've been a yellow, no questions asked. |
Exactly what I thought. |  |
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| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 18:36 - Aug 19 with 1697 views | TrumptonBlue |
Deliberate handball is not always a booking offence. Like other fouls, it can just be a free kick with no action taken against the individual player.
But it becomes a yellow card offence if the player "handles the ball to interfere with or stop a promising attack". Given those guidelines, Wes may have been a little fortunate. |  | | |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 18:44 - Aug 19 with 1660 views | bluelagos |
If it had been the other way, we'd have been livid. Ref bottled it/showed leniency (take yer pick) but very silly by Wes when on a yellow.
Omari also could have seen red when waving for a yellow when on a yellow.
The ref was sensible imho but others might be more "by the rules" |  |
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| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 20:14 - Aug 19 with 1497 views | BloomBlue |
I thought **** Burns, that's a yellow. Was shocked and surprised when the ref didn't give him a second yellow.
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The bloke in front of me said she rule changed this year, a deliberate handball isn't an automatic yellow now.
Don't know if that is correct ? |  | | |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 20:27 - Aug 19 with 1452 views | RadioOrwell |
I don't think he meant it.
I'm not certain he knew where the ball was and he was trying to balance / get up. |  | | |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 20:59 - Aug 19 with 1372 views | Durovigutum |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 18:36 - Aug 19 by TrumptonBlue |
Deliberate handball is not always a booking offence. Like other fouls, it can just be a free kick with no action taken against the individual player.
But it becomes a yellow card offence if the player "handles the ball to interfere with or stop a promising attack". Given those guidelines, Wes may have been a little fortunate. |
Here is the correct answer. Law 12 section 3. Was it a promising attack? Probably not - also the referee is blind side and the lino (AR) and 4th official blocked by coaches not in the technical area. VAR can’t intervene.
This all said, I suspect he’ll be getting a telling off in the video review…. |  | | |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 21:02 - Aug 19 with 1336 views | Europablue |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 20:14 - Aug 19 by BloomBlue |
I thought **** Burns, that's a yellow. Was shocked and surprised when the ref didn't give him a second yellow.
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The bloke in front of me said she rule changed this year, a deliberate handball isn't an automatic yellow now.
Don't know if that is correct ? |
The first yellow was not just not a yellow, it wasn't even a foul. The problem is that you can't use VAR for an important decision that changes the game. You should be allowed a challenge for an obvious error like that. | | | |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 21:06 - Aug 19 with 1312 views | burnbudgiesburn |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 21:02 - Aug 19 by Europablue |
The first yellow was not just not a yellow, it wasn't even a foul. The problem is that you can't use VAR for an important decision that changes the game. You should be allowed a challenge for an obvious error like that. |
Burns was nowhere near the ball and raked his studs down the back of the opposition players heel, how on earth is that not a foul? | | | |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 21:55 - Aug 19 with 1195 views | TrumptonBlue |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 20:14 - Aug 19 by BloomBlue |
I thought **** Burns, that's a yellow. Was shocked and surprised when the ref didn't give him a second yellow.
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The bloke in front of me said she rule changed this year, a deliberate handball isn't an automatic yellow now.
Don't know if that is correct ? |
It never has been. | | | |
| Have we discussed Burns deliberate handball when he was already on a yellow on 22:16 - Aug 19 with 1108 views | Radlett_blue |
VAR isn't allowed to intervene on yellow cards.
Yes, Burns could have been sent off, but either the ref didn't have a great view but more likely he remembered that Burns's first yellow was borderline & he applied the invisible law that a higher threshold is required for a 2nd yellow, especially early in a game. |  |
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