| I thought we sounded good all match 17:40 - Sep 21 with 6240 views | thebooks |
Bit disappointing to see a few grumbles on here.
We have by far the cheapest squad and the lowest wage bill in this league. We’ve played Manchester City and Liverpool, a good Fulham team at home and an excellent Brighton away, along with one of our fellow promoted teams away. Getting 3 points from that is absolutely brilliant.
We kept going and, yet again, got an injury time goal. We’ll get a win and start flying.
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| I thought we sounded good all match on 06:30 - Sep 22 with 1699 views | ArnieM |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 17:45 - Sep 21 by DavoIPB |
We were awful. Outplayed and out thought most of the match. We got lucky with a deflected long shot. Almost everybody had an off day. Southampton look a lot more likely to survive this league than us. |
You obviously missed the first 25 mins of the first half then..... couldn't get parked could you? Clueless |  |
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| I thought we sounded good all match on 07:17 - Sep 22 with 1672 views | Reus30 |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 05:17 - Sep 22 by itfctilidie |
Burns isn't good enough for premier league I'm afraid. Love the bloke but is put of his depth. We need to put sentiment aside if we want to survive.
Now Davis is up against quality full backs and wingers he is no longer affective as he was so we need to find other ways oof creating chances because at the minute we are creating nnothing |
Burns in no way shape or form is/was an issue.
He looked bright as always and I actually fancy him 1 on 1 against any fullback in the division. He looked alright today, first half it was all on that side. |  | | |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 07:52 - Sep 22 with 1618 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 05:17 - Sep 22 by itfctilidie |
Burns isn't good enough for premier league I'm afraid. Love the bloke but is put of his depth. We need to put sentiment aside if we want to survive.
Now Davis is up against quality full backs and wingers he is no longer affective as he was so we need to find other ways oof creating chances because at the minute we are creating nnothing |
Absolute nonsense. "Creating nothing"?!? What's it like in your parallel universe? |  |
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| I thought we sounded good all match on 08:14 - Sep 23 with 1528 views | itfctilidie |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 07:52 - Sep 22 by The_Flashing_Smile |
Absolute nonsense. "Creating nothing"?!? What's it like in your parallel universe? |
Not sure what you are smoking when watching but I'd love some. Apart from omari's shot in first half and the goal, what else did we create? Corners into the first man don't count
Edit- and a hirst header actually I'll give you that [Post edited 23 Sep 2024 8:18]
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| I thought we sounded good all match on 09:16 - Sep 23 with 1493 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 08:14 - Sep 23 by itfctilidie |
Not sure what you are smoking when watching but I'd love some. Apart from omari's shot in first half and the goal, what else did we create? Corners into the first man don't count
Edit- and a hirst header actually I'll give you that [Post edited 23 Sep 2024 8:18]
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13 shots, 6 on target.
What's even more weird is you say we create nothing and then list 3 chances. You're off your trolley, mate. | |
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| I thought we sounded good all match on 09:29 - Sep 23 with 1464 views | DanTheMan |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 09:16 - Sep 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
13 shots, 6 on target.
What's even more weird is you say we create nothing and then list 3 chances. You're off your trolley, mate. |
The biggest difference between us and Southampton was the quality of chances created. We had a lot of pressure during the first half and created some decent opportunities but I think quite a few were half chances.
The ones Southampton created were very good, through on-goal with the keeper to beat style. They didn't have any many shots as us but the ones they did have they really should have been putting away.
On the whole, it was a pretty mixed bag. We did some good stuff and looked well on top at the start but we struggled with our decision make in the final third and then in the second half which had a much harder time of things. Southampton did well when they broke our press. [Post edited 23 Sep 2024 9:31]
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| I thought we sounded good all match on 09:32 - Sep 23 with 1448 views | DanTheMan |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 05:17 - Sep 22 by itfctilidie |
Burns isn't good enough for premier league I'm afraid. Love the bloke but is put of his depth. We need to put sentiment aside if we want to survive.
Now Davis is up against quality full backs and wingers he is no longer affective as he was so we need to find other ways oof creating chances because at the minute we are creating nnothing |
Don't think Burns did much wrong, he wasn't getting balls played to him. He's at his best when he's played beyond their fullback and it becomes a race but he wasn't getting that sort of service. | |
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| I thought we sounded good all match on 10:37 - Sep 23 with 1381 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 09:29 - Sep 23 by DanTheMan |
The biggest difference between us and Southampton was the quality of chances created. We had a lot of pressure during the first half and created some decent opportunities but I think quite a few were half chances.
The ones Southampton created were very good, through on-goal with the keeper to beat style. They didn't have any many shots as us but the ones they did have they really should have been putting away.
On the whole, it was a pretty mixed bag. We did some good stuff and looked well on top at the start but we struggled with our decision make in the final third and then in the second half which had a much harder time of things. Southampton did well when they broke our press. [Post edited 23 Sep 2024 9:31]
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We weren't discussing the quality of the chances. We're discussing the fact that he said "We aren't creating anything at the moment." | |
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| I thought we sounded good all match on 10:44 - Sep 23 with 1362 views | PhilTWTD |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 23:35 - Sep 21 by ITFCSG |
1. We didn't play well at all. At times we dominated possession, but how many clear saves did their keeper has to make? 2?
2. We did the double over Saints last season so most people would have higher expectations that we would beat them again today for the first win of the season |
Thought we played better in the first half than either of the games against them last season. As Kieran said, first time we'd had long spells controlling the game with the ball against them. We also created more than enough chances, even if we didn't force the keeper to make enough saves. Szmodics, Davis and Hirst all failed to hit the target with decent opportunities. |  | | |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 10:50 - Sep 23 with 1330 views | Coastalblue |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 09:32 - Sep 23 by DanTheMan |
Don't think Burns did much wrong, he wasn't getting balls played to him. He's at his best when he's played beyond their fullback and it becomes a race but he wasn't getting that sort of service. |
Not watched it back but I did feel a couple of times on saturday that Burns actually seemed reluctant to truly turn on the afterburners as though he was nursing something, it may just have been that he'd been instructed to play a more restrained game in order to try and retain more posession. |  |
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| I thought we sounded good all match on 10:55 - Sep 23 with 1320 views | DanTheMan |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 10:37 - Sep 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
We weren't discussing the quality of the chances. We're discussing the fact that he said "We aren't creating anything at the moment." |
Fair enough, but I think just responding that we had 13 shots and 6 shots on target without looking at what those chances were is also slightly misleading, even though I agree with did create chances even if they weren't as good as Southamptons.
The one that sticks out to me was the Delap air kick from I think Davis? Felt that was a good one but that don't think that'd even show up in the shot statistics! | |
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| I thought we sounded good all match on 11:09 - Sep 23 with 1302 views | PhilTWTD |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 04:36 - Sep 22 by pointofblue |
They're not the Dog and Duck but they're one of the weakest teams in the division. I'm sure even their fans would admit they're not on the same level as the teams we've played already.
Considering how well we did against Fulham, in particular, and Brighton, to an extent, I can appreciate why people were hoping to build on those performances. Especially as Southampton have had a torrid start to the season. |
Actually thought Southampton were poorer than the team we played last year, but with the same main issues. Profligate in attack and prone to mistakes at the other end. Keeper is a big upgrade, though. | | | |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 11:17 - Sep 23 with 1259 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 10:55 - Sep 23 by DanTheMan |
Fair enough, but I think just responding that we had 13 shots and 6 shots on target without looking at what those chances were is also slightly misleading, even though I agree with did create chances even if they weren't as good as Southamptons.
The one that sticks out to me was the Delap air kick from I think Davis? Felt that was a good one but that don't think that'd even show up in the shot statistics! |
I think there were some very good opportunities that we didn't take well... but they're still evidence of creating chances. And as you say, some like Delap's won't even be recorded in the stats. So no, I don't think sharing the stats is misleading. And the person I was replying to also mentioned Omari's (brilliantly saved, we've seen those go in from Omari), the goal we actually scored, and then remembered Hirst's tip-over. So he's undone his own argument before we even include the stats.
13 shots away from home is certainly not "not creating anything". We created plenty of chances for an away game in the Premier League. | |
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| I thought we sounded good all match on 11:36 - Sep 23 with 1239 views | itfctilidie |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 11:17 - Sep 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I think there were some very good opportunities that we didn't take well... but they're still evidence of creating chances. And as you say, some like Delap's won't even be recorded in the stats. So no, I don't think sharing the stats is misleading. And the person I was replying to also mentioned Omari's (brilliantly saved, we've seen those go in from Omari), the goal we actually scored, and then remembered Hirst's tip-over. So he's undone his own argument before we even include the stats.
13 shots away from home is certainly not "not creating anything". We created plenty of chances for an away game in the Premier League. |
Nah sorry ain't having it. You have your opinion and I'll have mine. Southampton fans would be gutted at only getting a point as we didn't create enough in my opinion and they created much more. Happy with a point of course but have to be better in my opinion. Enjoy the next match, I will regardless. | | | |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 11:52 - Sep 23 with 1220 views | dirtyboy |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 21:11 - Sep 21 by pointofblue |
As I said elsewhere, I think the issue is who we played today. Had it been an established Premier League side (maybe Everton aside) the criticism would be muted. A better performance was expected considering we were facing Southampton. |
I think expectations are missplaced that's all.
We played Southampton this time last year and won 1-0. They started the season poorly (us the complete opposite) and the general feeling on the forum was that a point would be good, so I don't understand why that thought process has changed so much.
They have a PL quality team who've also spent a little and probably a little more settled than us.
Last year they had more shots, more possession and probably should have won but didn't. This year, we reduced the possession stats, had more shots and got a draw. Other than the obvious points, it's not bad in context.
We'll get better, 100% sure of it. |  | | |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 12:18 - Sep 23 with 1193 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 11:36 - Sep 23 by itfctilidie |
Nah sorry ain't having it. You have your opinion and I'll have mine. Southampton fans would be gutted at only getting a point as we didn't create enough in my opinion and they created much more. Happy with a point of course but have to be better in my opinion. Enjoy the next match, I will regardless. |
It's not an opinion, I listed facts. You can't have an opinion on if and how many chances we had, they're a matter of record. You even listed 3 chances yourself.
Now you've changed from "at the minute we are creating nothing" to "we didn't create enough" which is a completely different argument (and yes, based on opinion rather than fact).
Instead of making yourself look silly and moving the goalposts, maybe just admit you were wrong to say "at the minute we are creating nothing". [Post edited 23 Sep 2024 12:20]
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| I thought we sounded good all match on 14:22 - Sep 23 with 1116 views | Leaky |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 11:36 - Sep 23 by itfctilidie |
Nah sorry ain't having it. You have your opinion and I'll have mine. Southampton fans would be gutted at only getting a point as we didn't create enough in my opinion and they created much more. Happy with a point of course but have to be better in my opinion. Enjoy the next match, I will regardless. |
Nah mate went on there forum, yes they were gutted we equalised late on. Most thought a draw was a fair result |  | | |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 15:03 - Sep 23 with 1080 views | itfctilidie |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 12:18 - Sep 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
It's not an opinion, I listed facts. You can't have an opinion on if and how many chances we had, they're a matter of record. You even listed 3 chances yourself.
Now you've changed from "at the minute we are creating nothing" to "we didn't create enough" which is a completely different argument (and yes, based on opinion rather than fact).
Instead of making yourself look silly and moving the goalposts, maybe just admit you were wrong to say "at the minute we are creating nothing". [Post edited 23 Sep 2024 12:20]
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I watched the match with 2 others who shared my opinion. So no I am not going to admit I am wrong to some melt on the internet I have never met | | | |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 15:07 - Sep 23 with 1068 views | Churchman |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 15:03 - Sep 23 by itfctilidie |
I watched the match with 2 others who shared my opinion. So no I am not going to admit I am wrong to some melt on the internet I have never met |
Why the abuse towards another poster who has as much right to an opinion as you? |  | | |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 15:09 - Sep 23 with 1057 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 15:03 - Sep 23 by itfctilidie |
I watched the match with 2 others who shared my opinion. So no I am not going to admit I am wrong to some melt on the internet I have never met |
Which opinion did they share? That "we didn't create enough" (not a totally unreasonable opinion to have) or your first opinion (the one I was questioning): "at the minute we are creating nothing"?
The second one is clearly bobbins, as proven with the facts. | |
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| I thought we sounded good all match on 15:12 - Sep 23 with 1037 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 15:07 - Sep 23 by Churchman |
Why the abuse towards another poster who has as much right to an opinion as you? |
I'm not even offering an opinion, I'm just stating a fact that we did create chances.
He's changed from "we aren't creating anything" to "we didn't create enough", because he's realised the first isn't true. | |
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| I thought we sounded good all match on 15:19 - Sep 23 with 1028 views | Churchman |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 15:12 - Sep 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I'm not even offering an opinion, I'm just stating a fact that we did create chances.
He's changed from "we aren't creating anything" to "we didn't create enough", because he's realised the first isn't true. |
True. The stats prove it and having seen the game now, so do my eyeballs. Phil’s report and McKenna’s post match view also accurately reflect the game.
Maybe one or two posters are big fans and admirers of whingebag Russell Martin, with whom their views are pretty much in accord. | | | |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 16:16 - Sep 23 with 984 views | itfctilidie |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 15:07 - Sep 23 by Churchman |
Why the abuse towards another poster who has as much right to an opinion as you? |
Said poster isn't offering an opinion, he is stating that his opinion is facts. Boring anyway, like most of his other drivel on here | | | |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 16:49 - Sep 23 with 962 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 16:16 - Sep 23 by itfctilidie |
Said poster isn't offering an opinion, he is stating that his opinion is facts. Boring anyway, like most of his other drivel on here |
What to the what now?!
Um, I'm stating the facts as facts. 13 shots, 6 on target, are facts not opinions. | |
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| I thought we sounded good all match on 20:21 - Sep 23 with 891 views | Coastalblue |
| I thought we sounded good all match on 16:49 - Sep 23 by The_Flashing_Smile |
What to the what now?!
Um, I'm stating the facts as facts. 13 shots, 6 on target, are facts not opinions. |
Give up, comprehension is clearly not strong in this one and you'll be at it for ever | |
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