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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then 18:21 - Sep 27 with 19511 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/sep/27/peer-gave-keir-starmer-more-clo

Tbh whether it is permitted under the rules or not it is a disgrace and a kick in the teeth for "hard working families!"

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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 18:33 - Sep 27 with 7721 viewsPinewoodblue

Makes you wonder if the offers came out of the blue or if prompted by something Starmer said. Ditto with the free use of a penthouse flat so his son could study for his GCSEs, and all those freebies at various football grounds.

If he had any integrity he would have declined, it isn’t as if he couldn’t afford it, as Leader of Opposition he was getting over £50,000 in addition his £90, 000 + MP. salary plus expenses.

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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 18:35 - Sep 27 with 7717 viewsredrickstuhaart

Not really.

Are we really expecting the leader of the country to pitch up to world events in a suit from Burtons?
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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 18:41 - Sep 27 with 7686 viewsSitfcB

Such a big fuss over nothing.

Man in privileged position in getting freebies shocker, happens up and down the country every day ffs.

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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 18:42 - Sep 27 with 7663 viewsGlasgowBlue

Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 18:35 - Sep 27 by redrickstuhaart

Not really.

Are we really expecting the leader of the country to pitch up to world events in a suit from Burtons?


He has a net worth of nearly £8 million. I'm sure he can stretch to a couple of £1200 Armani suits and not be on the breadline.
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Erm, yeah. Why not? (n/t) on 18:43 - Sep 27 with 7649 viewsBloots

Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 18:35 - Sep 27 by redrickstuhaart

Not really.

Are we really expecting the leader of the country to pitch up to world events in a suit from Burtons?



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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 18:45 - Sep 27 with 7641 viewsGlasgowBlue

Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 18:41 - Sep 27 by SitfcB

Such a big fuss over nothing.

Man in privileged position in getting freebies shocker, happens up and down the country every day ffs.


That's not the point. He ran a campaign on his pubic service and duty vs Boris Johnson's cronyism and freebies.

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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 19:27 - Sep 27 with 7536 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 18:45 - Sep 27 by GlasgowBlue

That's not the point. He ran a campaign on his pubic service and duty vs Boris Johnson's cronyism and freebies.


Tbf Sitters is consistent in his "it's just the way it is" approach which brings to mind a puppy having his tummy tickled while something terrible is happening but what can you do.

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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 19:31 - Sep 27 with 7516 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 18:42 - Sep 27 by GlasgowBlue

He has a net worth of nearly £8 million. I'm sure he can stretch to a couple of £1200 Armani suits and not be on the breadline.
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Silly exaggeration.

It's not about whether one can afford something or not. Most people, when offered a gift, just say "Thanks very much" not "No thanks, I can afford my own".

If it's in the rules then there's no story. Just desperate muck spreading, your favourite form of politics.

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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 19:38 - Sep 27 with 7492 viewsDJR

He obviously needs Lord Ali's penthouse to store that amount of clothing.
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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 19:45 - Sep 27 with 7468 viewsBloomBlue

No different from what Boris did and Labour complained about that, they're both cut from the same cloth.
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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 19:51 - Sep 27 with 7422 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 19:31 - Sep 27 by The_Flashing_Smile

Silly exaggeration.

It's not about whether one can afford something or not. Most people, when offered a gift, just say "Thanks very much" not "No thanks, I can afford my own".

If it's in the rules then there's no story. Just desperate muck spreading, your favourite form of politics.


I mean who doesn't spend at least 32k a year on new clothes....man of the people isn't he.

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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 20:00 - Sep 27 with 7380 viewsmutters

Sadly the majority of them are the same across the political spectrum. All have their noses in the trough. Public service my @55.

Starmer is finding that being PM puts you under a lot more pressure, a lot more scrutiny. Makes you wonder why he went so hard after Boris if he thought he might actually become PM one day. Hypocrisy at its finest.

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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 20:04 - Sep 27 with 7357 viewsGlasgowBlue

Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 19:45 - Sep 27 by BloomBlue

No different from what Boris did and Labour complained about that, they're both cut from the same cloth.


People are either against both sides indulging in cronyism and freebies, are ok with both sides indulging in cronyism and freebies. If they complained about the Tories indulging in cronyism and freebies but excusing Labour indulging in cronyism and freebies then they are rank hypocrites.

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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 20:16 - Sep 27 with 7265 viewsRyorry

Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 18:33 - Sep 27 by Pinewoodblue

Makes you wonder if the offers came out of the blue or if prompted by something Starmer said. Ditto with the free use of a penthouse flat so his son could study for his GCSEs, and all those freebies at various football grounds.

If he had any integrity he would have declined, it isn’t as if he couldn’t afford it, as Leader of Opposition he was getting over £50,000 in addition his £90, 000 + MP. salary plus expenses.


Was given a good bottle of whisky back in the 1980s from a grateful client when I was a field social worker - I felt quite uncomfortable about it as they weren't well off, but sometimes it would just be incredibly rude/churlish to turn a gift down. I did check it past my team leader later though, he said no problem.

Starmer has openly explained the borrowed flat - he felt bad for his son who he'd promised would be able to study in peace for his GCSEs; but he then found their home beseiged by noisy crowds of reporters so took up the offer of a friend's quiet flat. Finding & renting an alternative would have taken time which they didn't have.

You can see how these things arise in the real world perfectly innocently. And anyone comparing KS's 'freebies' of a few £K with Johnson & Co's £millions is pretty obviously either in the tory camp or a sore Corbynite.

Edit: I should probably have also said that I tried to turn down the gift several times ("no really, I couldn't" etc) & each time it was shoved back into my hands. I don't even like whisky! & eventually gave the unopened bottle away to a charity tombola.
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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 20:56 - Sep 27 with 7168 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 20:16 - Sep 27 by Ryorry

Was given a good bottle of whisky back in the 1980s from a grateful client when I was a field social worker - I felt quite uncomfortable about it as they weren't well off, but sometimes it would just be incredibly rude/churlish to turn a gift down. I did check it past my team leader later though, he said no problem.

Starmer has openly explained the borrowed flat - he felt bad for his son who he'd promised would be able to study in peace for his GCSEs; but he then found their home beseiged by noisy crowds of reporters so took up the offer of a friend's quiet flat. Finding & renting an alternative would have taken time which they didn't have.

You can see how these things arise in the real world perfectly innocently. And anyone comparing KS's 'freebies' of a few £K with Johnson & Co's £millions is pretty obviously either in the tory camp or a sore Corbynite.

Edit: I should probably have also said that I tried to turn down the gift several times ("no really, I couldn't" etc) & each time it was shoved back into my hands. I don't even like whisky! & eventually gave the unopened bottle away to a charity tombola.
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.....or was just hoping for better.

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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 21:03 - Sep 27 with 7136 viewsredrickstuhaart

Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 19:45 - Sep 27 by BloomBlue

No different from what Boris did and Labour complained about that, they're both cut from the same cloth.


Boris hid and lied about it. See flat renovations...
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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 21:04 - Sep 27 with 7131 viewsredrickstuhaart

Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 19:51 - Sep 27 by BanksterDebtSlave

I mean who doesn't spend at least 32k a year on new clothes....man of the people isn't he.


He is the prime minister ffs. A wealthy party member offers to assist. What is the issue there? Its not like taking million pound bribes from an oil industry baron!
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That we know of.....yet. (n/t) on 21:13 - Sep 27 with 7079 viewsBloots

Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 21:04 - Sep 27 by redrickstuhaart

He is the prime minister ffs. A wealthy party member offers to assist. What is the issue there? Its not like taking million pound bribes from an oil industry baron!



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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 21:16 - Sep 27 with 7064 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 21:04 - Sep 27 by redrickstuhaart

He is the prime minister ffs. A wealthy party member offers to assist. What is the issue there? Its not like taking million pound bribes from an oil industry baron!


I struggle to see how anyone can think this is ok, I would prefer he turned up on the World stage in jeans and a T shirt....perhaps even a donkey jacket at the cenotaph.

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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 21:17 - Sep 27 with 7062 viewsBloomBlue

Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 20:16 - Sep 27 by Ryorry

Was given a good bottle of whisky back in the 1980s from a grateful client when I was a field social worker - I felt quite uncomfortable about it as they weren't well off, but sometimes it would just be incredibly rude/churlish to turn a gift down. I did check it past my team leader later though, he said no problem.

Starmer has openly explained the borrowed flat - he felt bad for his son who he'd promised would be able to study in peace for his GCSEs; but he then found their home beseiged by noisy crowds of reporters so took up the offer of a friend's quiet flat. Finding & renting an alternative would have taken time which they didn't have.

You can see how these things arise in the real world perfectly innocently. And anyone comparing KS's 'freebies' of a few £K with Johnson & Co's £millions is pretty obviously either in the tory camp or a sore Corbynite.

Edit: I should probably have also said that I tried to turn down the gift several times ("no really, I couldn't" etc) & each time it was shoved back into my hands. I don't even like whisky! & eventually gave the unopened bottle away to a charity tombola.
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Sorry but I think you're missing the point.

In opposition Starmer complsined about Boris's freebies (while not against the rules) it added to the air of corruption - ie what do those people giving freebies want in return?
He said a Labour wouldn't do that, you're there to serve the public and would be totally open and honest to eliminate any undercurrent of corruption.

I really don't care about the football tickets or free suits as I don't think PMs earn enough. But ultimately if you're going to stand in front of a camera and say 'Sunak you taking that from donar XYZ gives an air of questionable dishonesty and Labour won't do that' then I expect him not to do it.
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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 21:29 - Sep 27 with 6972 viewsBasuco

Not quite as bad as Nadine Dorries. Paid her two daughters £40 K a year of tax payers money to "work" in her office.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2420625/MP-Nadine-Dorries-pays-daughter
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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 21:31 - Sep 27 with 6945 viewsBasuco

Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 19:45 - Sep 27 by BloomBlue

No different from what Boris did and Labour complained about that, they're both cut from the same cloth.


And this
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54974373
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The argument that this lot..... on 21:37 - Sep 27 with 6882 viewsBloots

Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 21:29 - Sep 27 by Basuco

Not quite as bad as Nadine Dorries. Paid her two daughters £40 K a year of tax payers money to "work" in her office.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2420625/MP-Nadine-Dorries-pays-daughter


....aren't currently as bad as the last lot isn't really a valid argument.

Despite the fact that it is going to inevitably be the only argument available for their entire term.

Oh well.

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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 21:38 - Sep 27 with 6869 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 19:51 - Sep 27 by BanksterDebtSlave

I mean who doesn't spend at least 32k a year on new clothes....man of the people isn't he.


Some people spend that on a watch, I seem to remember.

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Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 21:42 - Sep 27 with 6857 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Just the odd £32,000 on clothes then on 20:04 - Sep 27 by GlasgowBlue

People are either against both sides indulging in cronyism and freebies, are ok with both sides indulging in cronyism and freebies. If they complained about the Tories indulging in cronyism and freebies but excusing Labour indulging in cronyism and freebies then they are rank hypocrites.


Not when they're on totally different scales they're not.

One lot were committing fraud, for which they should be in prison.
The other lot are accepting gifts within the rules.

Captain Smeary is trying his hardest again, only there isn't so much to twist on Starmer as there was on Corbyn.

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