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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway 20:27 - Oct 7 with 3125 viewsElderGrizzly

By Trump’s cult. Depressingly predictable

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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 02:23 - Oct 8 with 2868 viewsIllinoisblue

This is where it gets genuinely scary. Hard to underline just how despicable and dangerous Trump is. Along with his band of grifters and charlatans and religious hucksters. F**k them all.

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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 02:33 - Oct 8 with 2858 viewsArnoldMoorhen

As people note in the comments below, if the Election isn't certified then Biden remains President.

And, I will add, should he be incapacitated, then Vice President Harris would become President by that route.
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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 07:45 - Oct 8 with 2661 viewsDinDjarin

Have you seen the polls? Not sure it will even be an issue.
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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 08:17 - Oct 8 with 2592 viewsNthQldITFC

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 07:45 - Oct 8 by DinDjarin

Have you seen the polls? Not sure it will even be an issue.


Which ones are you favouring?

These ones: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/

These ones: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/elections/polls-president.html

These ones: https://ig.ft.com/us-elections/2024/polls/

Or this one: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/31/us/politics/2024-poll-nyt-siena-trump-republi
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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 08:48 - Oct 8 with 2505 viewsPinewoodblue

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 08:17 - Oct 8 by NthQldITFC

Which ones are you favouring?

These ones: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/

These ones: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/elections/polls-president.html

These ones: https://ig.ft.com/us-elections/2024/polls/

Or this one: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/31/us/politics/2024-poll-nyt-siena-trump-republi
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The Economist currently predicts a Harris win but by the slimmest of majorities, just 273-265 in the electoral college.

The US really does have the crappiest system possible. The candidate with the most votes from the electorate doesn’t always win.

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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 09:10 - Oct 8 with 2408 viewspositivity

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 08:48 - Oct 8 by Pinewoodblue

The Economist currently predicts a Harris win but by the slimmest of majorities, just 273-265 in the electoral college.

The US really does have the crappiest system possible. The candidate with the most votes from the electorate doesn’t always win.


agreed, harris is almost certain to win the national vote, but the chances of becoming president is near 50/50...

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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 09:15 - Oct 8 with 2385 viewsElderGrizzly

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 09:10 - Oct 8 by positivity

agreed, harris is almost certain to win the national vote, but the chances of becoming president is near 50/50...


Yep.

The entire election could be won on the outcome of about 60,000 votes in 3 states.

Which is ludicrous in a country where votes will be something like 157million cast and Harris will win that by probably 5 million minimum.
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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 09:16 - Oct 8 with 2380 viewsBlueschev

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 08:48 - Oct 8 by Pinewoodblue

The Economist currently predicts a Harris win but by the slimmest of majorities, just 273-265 in the electoral college.

The US really does have the crappiest system possible. The candidate with the most votes from the electorate doesn’t always win.


That's also true of our political system to be fair.
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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 09:20 - Oct 8 with 2355 viewsElderGrizzly

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 02:23 - Oct 8 by Illinoisblue

This is where it gets genuinely scary. Hard to underline just how despicable and dangerous Trump is. Along with his band of grifters and charlatans and religious hucksters. F**k them all.


And it's the same as last time. Doing it in plain sight and no-one can do anything to stop them it appears.

The tactic appears to almost say 'sod the election' and try and win it in the courts which will be a huge test of the US court system given how the courts are filled with Trump favouring justices in key states. And that's before you even get to his hand-picked Supreme Court.

You can see it now. Clarence Thomas's last act as a Supreme Court justice before retiring is to turn over the election...
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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 09:23 - Oct 8 with 2322 viewspositivity

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 09:16 - Oct 8 by Blueschev

That's also true of our political system to be fair.


our system isn't great (would far prefer pr), but when was the last time that the party with the most votes didn't lead the government?

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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 09:31 - Oct 8 with 2267 viewsBlueschev

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 09:23 - Oct 8 by positivity

our system isn't great (would far prefer pr), but when was the last time that the party with the most votes didn't lead the government?


I think it was the 1951 election. I agree our system isn't quite as bad, but as with the US the number of essentially meaningless votes is also a problem here.
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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 09:45 - Oct 8 with 2216 viewsEdwardStone

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 02:23 - Oct 8 by Illinoisblue

This is where it gets genuinely scary. Hard to underline just how despicable and dangerous Trump is. Along with his band of grifters and charlatans and religious hucksters. F**k them all.


I guess most people have seen this article

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/07/donald-trumps-hitlerian-lo

Truly chilling
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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 10:15 - Oct 8 with 2116 viewsNthQldITFC

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 09:45 - Oct 8 by EdwardStone

I guess most people have seen this article

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/07/donald-trumps-hitlerian-lo

Truly chilling


Christ!

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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 10:16 - Oct 8 with 2112 viewsBlueBadger

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 07:45 - Oct 8 by DinDjarin

Have you seen the polls? Not sure it will even be an issue.


The ones generally showing Harris with a (small) lead?

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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 12:20 - Oct 8 with 1966 viewsDJR

I had a look at the Bill itself which contains the following.

"there is abundant evidence that non-citizens have been and are being registered to vote in the national election of 2024"

Now that wasn't a line that I think was taken when challenging the result in 2020, so this is a rather alarming development.
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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 12:30 - Oct 8 with 1885 viewsIllinoisblue

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 09:45 - Oct 8 by EdwardStone

I guess most people have seen this article

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/07/donald-trumps-hitlerian-lo

Truly chilling


Nobody should be in doubt as to what he stands for.

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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 12:33 - Oct 8 with 1875 viewsIllinoisblue

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 12:20 - Oct 8 by DJR

I had a look at the Bill itself which contains the following.

"there is abundant evidence that non-citizens have been and are being registered to vote in the national election of 2024"

Now that wasn't a line that I think was taken when challenging the result in 2020, so this is a rather alarming development.


Would like to know more about this “abundant evidence”

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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 12:51 - Oct 8 with 1803 viewsElderGrizzly

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 09:45 - Oct 8 by EdwardStone

I guess most people have seen this article

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/07/donald-trumps-hitlerian-lo

Truly chilling


If you have 90 minutes, it's definitely worth watching the Channel 4 documentary on the 2020 election. It was on a couple of weeks ago

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/trumps-heist-president-who-wouldnt-lose

It shows what he did then and is pretty much a carbon copy of what he is doing now but with even more ridiculous and dangerous people around him.
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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 12:53 - Oct 8 with 1782 viewsElderGrizzly

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 12:30 - Oct 8 by Illinoisblue

Nobody should be in doubt as to what he stands for.


Even his current VP pick called him America's Hitler.
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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 12:54 - Oct 8 with 1769 viewsElderGrizzly

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 12:33 - Oct 8 by Illinoisblue

Would like to know more about this “abundant evidence”


There is always abundant evidence until they are asked to produce it.
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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 12:57 - Oct 8 with 1751 viewsDJR

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 12:33 - Oct 8 by Illinoisblue

Would like to know more about this “abundant evidence”


I think it is abundant evidence in the heads of people pushing or accepting this sort of nonsense.
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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 13:46 - Oct 8 with 1660 viewsNthQldITFC

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 12:57 - Oct 8 by DJR

I think it is abundant evidence in the heads of people pushing or accepting this sort of nonsense.


Post truth world, innit?

Even if it isn't, it is, because I'm telling you it is.

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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 14:12 - Oct 8 with 1594 viewsElderGrizzly

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 13:46 - Oct 8 by NthQldITFC

Post truth world, innit?

Even if it isn't, it is, because I'm telling you it is.


In seriousness, that is a key part of the Trump plan (as is for any fascist)

"I'm the single source of truth, the media are the liars" - it's been Trump's way from Day 1. It's why he has Truth Social after Twitter (pre-Musk) stood up to his lies. For what he does to work, he needs to control the narrative and have the gullible believe.

Watch how his cult react to quotes apparently from Biden, only to be told they were actually from Trump and they flip their view from what they said 60 seconds before.
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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 14:16 - Oct 8 with 1578 viewsElderGrizzly

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 12:57 - Oct 8 by DJR

I think it is abundant evidence in the heads of people pushing or accepting this sort of nonsense.


Exhibit A:

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The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 14:40 - Oct 8 with 1504 viewsNthQldITFC

The first ‘official’ steps to not accepting a Harris win are underway on 14:16 - Oct 8 by ElderGrizzly

Exhibit A:



TCN?

Two C***s Nattering?

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