| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? 23:50 - Oct 19 with 7734 views | FrimleyBlue |
Just one for open discussion.
On one hand you've got a young manager who's done an absolutely brilliant job with our club. 2 promotions. Winning many many games. Some excellent and quite frankly scarily good games in the process.
Given us this prem season to enjoy and has every fans faith he will keep us up. Including mine.
But... how much does he care now?
We go down. He'll be off. Does it matter to him
For all this Ashton hugging rubbish, this is a man who had all but signed for Palace. All but joined Brighton.
So for people questioning some player efforts earlier. Lack of drive. Determination etc... perhaps the KM potentially leaving had an effect more than anyone's discussed before. After all, those who got him the job offers, he's replaced with younger up coming players without a 2nd thought. He's mentioned in the main players have taken it well.
He talks his usual game. As brilliant as all previous interview. Calm collective etc. But with no wins. Should we see more passion? Is that wrong to expect some?
Just genuine open question for a discussion nothing behind this it's just a chat I've had tonight off site that I thought I'd ask on site. So I know I'll get hit with abuse but I thought its actually a worthwhile chat.
How much does KM care about how we actually do in this league when Kompany rocked into the job he's got whilst taking Burnley down. If he cares Where's the passion or the efforts in changing things rather than sticking to something that's not worked yet.
Anyways over to you all. Well aware this is not gonna be a popular post. But kinda writing it with a neutral head on rather than a town fan one if that makes sense. [Post edited 20 Oct 2024 8:09]
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 14:57 - Oct 20 with 923 views | reusersfreekicks |
You're posting too much rubbish again.
Don't go backwards |  | | |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 15:00 - Oct 20 with 905 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 14:54 - Oct 20 by MattinLondon |
Kompany, is an anomaly. He was a world class player at a world class club - if an ex-League One player had the same managerial path as him, there’s no way Munich would have employed him. |
Whilst true. KM has had 2 back to back promotions. Comes from utd. Assistant to ole and Jose. He's not a paul lambert from Colchester.
Any point KM achieves with town is a tick. Wins are bonus's. Losses are expectation.
That's not to say he would walk into a munich. But relegation doesn't suddenly mean a palace or a brighton don't come back in as examples. | |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 15:00 - Oct 20 with 905 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:09 - Oct 20 by FrimleyBlue |
I think It was a fair discussion
Many ( not myself ) have mentioned bringing some players in who wouldn't have the drive and passion as if we go down they'll just be off anyway. So If that's an acceptable view to have then it does open it up to the manager perhaps.
I don't have any specific thought on it. I'm halfway between thinking of course he does but could also understand if he didn't care. Its just a job at the end of the day.. |
Beyond belief
Give it and us a rest | | | |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 15:00 - Oct 20 with 902 views | Facefacts |
He cares a lot. It's just the gap is huge, and we're seeing it every game. We lose our best defender to a freak injury. We had some luck to pick up a point even against Southampton even before that. It's getting to him. He just has to grab on to any small piece of encouragement he can get.
There is an unwritten law that everything will go against us. Referees and Sky are on first name terms with the opposition and we're just upstarts. Banging on about VAR was unlike him yesterday. But he clearly cares deeply. It's sickening how good our opponents are when we see them on the pitch. It's like climbing Everest every week. Let's see what he does for Brentford, it won't be as physically in your face as West Ham and Everton
It leads on to the underlying point that he's out of his depth and can't or won't change his approach to setting up the team. He can't keep sending out the team to play in that way as it is getting no reward. Let's see what happens next week.
Other formations can be tried but international breaks mess with preparation for this. We have a lot of injuries. We have lost the team spirit which got us into this league as it was built on winning games. We overpaid for players who are not delivering and dont seem any better than those they replaced. No squad is going to survive that without discontented rumblings. We could not attract the right level of players to give us a fighting chance. Everton are not a relegation team, they just let a couple of 2 goal leads turn into defeats a few games back. Since then they've improved. But we just have to keep going and bounce back. |  | | |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 15:01 - Oct 20 with 892 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 15:00 - Oct 20 by reusersfreekicks |
Beyond belief
Give it and us a rest |
Rest all you like. Don't open a thread you don't wanna read. | |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 15:02 - Oct 20 with 892 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 10:56 - Oct 20 by J2BLUE |
This is about as near as Phil gets to calling you a tw@t |
And a reason to reflect and dial it down | | | |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 15:03 - Oct 20 with 881 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 12:10 - Oct 20 by MK1 |
I think that's a bit harsh. He is frustrated at our lack of winning a game of football, but then so are most. He tends to write what some might be thinking. I applaud that. (see my posts re;Tuchel) I don't mind Frimmers posting his thoughts, he hasn't called anybody out or done it in a nasty way. He deserves credit sometimes for post what he and some others may be thinking. |
Cr@p basically | | | |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 15:10 - Oct 20 with 860 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 14:57 - Oct 20 by reusersfreekicks |
You're posting too much rubbish again.
Don't go backwards |
Ah there it is.
I'm not coming on here posting only things you will agree with. Just because you don't like something doesn't = going backwards.
Many discussions yesterday. Not many begrudging the content. | |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 15:15 - Oct 20 with 850 views | Whos_blue |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 15:00 - Oct 20 by Facefacts |
He cares a lot. It's just the gap is huge, and we're seeing it every game. We lose our best defender to a freak injury. We had some luck to pick up a point even against Southampton even before that. It's getting to him. He just has to grab on to any small piece of encouragement he can get.
There is an unwritten law that everything will go against us. Referees and Sky are on first name terms with the opposition and we're just upstarts. Banging on about VAR was unlike him yesterday. But he clearly cares deeply. It's sickening how good our opponents are when we see them on the pitch. It's like climbing Everest every week. Let's see what he does for Brentford, it won't be as physically in your face as West Ham and Everton
It leads on to the underlying point that he's out of his depth and can't or won't change his approach to setting up the team. He can't keep sending out the team to play in that way as it is getting no reward. Let's see what happens next week.
Other formations can be tried but international breaks mess with preparation for this. We have a lot of injuries. We have lost the team spirit which got us into this league as it was built on winning games. We overpaid for players who are not delivering and dont seem any better than those they replaced. No squad is going to survive that without discontented rumblings. We could not attract the right level of players to give us a fighting chance. Everton are not a relegation team, they just let a couple of 2 goal leads turn into defeats a few games back. Since then they've improved. But we just have to keep going and bounce back. |
Not sure I agree he was "banging on" about VAR.
It's just the clickbait soundbite that the media have pounced on.
A listen to his post match comments in full show him to be as reasonable and as measured as he always is.
The penalty shout was a big moment in the game. He's going to be asked about it and he's going to give an opinion. |  |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 15:47 - Oct 20 with 804 views | LittleBoyBlue1 |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 15:15 - Oct 20 by Whos_blue |
Not sure I agree he was "banging on" about VAR.
It's just the clickbait soundbite that the media have pounced on.
A listen to his post match comments in full show him to be as reasonable and as measured as he always is.
The penalty shout was a big moment in the game. He's going to be asked about it and he's going to give an opinion. |
I don't think it's outrageous to discuss the impact that's been had from McKenna having his head turned tbh.
But I'll get pelters because people don't seem capable of discussing things like human psychology. Everyone must've felt differently about their own job after interviewing elsewhere. I know I have, even though I've had job offers I've not accepted because it didn't feel like a good fit. I probably interview somewhere else once a year just to see what the market is like, what sort of jobs are on offer...
What's the point of a forum if someone brings a point and it instantly becomes a mudslinging competition because people disagree. |  | | |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 17:11 - Oct 20 with 735 views | MK1 |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 15:47 - Oct 20 by LittleBoyBlue1 |
I don't think it's outrageous to discuss the impact that's been had from McKenna having his head turned tbh.
But I'll get pelters because people don't seem capable of discussing things like human psychology. Everyone must've felt differently about their own job after interviewing elsewhere. I know I have, even though I've had job offers I've not accepted because it didn't feel like a good fit. I probably interview somewhere else once a year just to see what the market is like, what sort of jobs are on offer...
What's the point of a forum if someone brings a point and it instantly becomes a mudslinging competition because people disagree. |
As I said earlier, you can't compare real life with professional football. McKenna will be totally focused on us and what we can achieve this season. Yes, he might have been tempted, but once he stays, he is totally committed to us. |  |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 17:18 - Oct 20 with 725 views | Ryorry |
| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 17:11 - Oct 20 by MK1 |
As I said earlier, you can't compare real life with professional football. McKenna will be totally focused on us and what we can achieve this season. Yes, he might have been tempted, but once he stays, he is totally committed to us. |
And will be in his office by 6am, 6 days a week. Some people either haven't read, or seem to have forgotten about his dedication & committment.
Apparently he does devote half a day a week to his family instead of ITFC though, the rogue!  |  |
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| Heres a late night question to ponder. How much does KM care? on 08:01 - Oct 21 with 566 views | PioneerBlue |
Kinda neutral head on. Wtaf. The question isn’t unreasonable in the context of someone whose engaged brain before speaking but that’s not what has happened here is it?! We won’t be sacking a top coach no matter what, that means he stays, if he leaves we receive a significant compensation. Either way, to have signed a long term deal, to have taken up the extension, to have decided to continue the build and return says he cares a lot and is vested in making this season a success however you define that based on scale of the ask. | |
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