| MOTD 22:53 - Oct 26 with 10242 views | cymroglas |
Shearer wasn't very complimentary about us tonight.
That graph of statistics wasn't good reading....but I suppose games are not played using graphs. Interesting that Theo Walcott attributed some of the blame on OShea for the last game. Don't know how stubborn McKenna is...but I'm desperate for Walton to start. |  | | |  |
| MOTD on 22:59 - Oct 26 with 6609 views | gainsboroughblue |
I can be even less complimentary about Shearer. |  |
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| MOTD on 22:59 - Oct 26 with 6615 views | Jimmy86 |
It's just poor analysis.. I mean, we're not even bottom of the table... They see us as an easy target, but then wax lyrical about Southampton and their style.. it's BS..MOTD can do 1 | | | |
| MOTD on 23:00 - Oct 26 with 6605 views | ITFCSG |
O'Shea didn't feature in 2 Premier League relegations for nothing. Gesturing as if the ball would go wide then he and Muric stared at each other as the ball sailed into the goal.
Alongside Muric and Johnson one of the top 3 worst performers so far. The way they play they'd struggle even in the Championship. | | | |
| MOTD on 23:00 - Oct 26 with 6591 views | waveneyblue |
The same MOTD that didn't even mention the post width that meant we didn't equalise |  | | |
| MOTD on 23:10 - Oct 26 with 6433 views | gainsboroughblue |
| MOTD on 23:00 - Oct 26 by waveneyblue |
The same MOTD that didn't even mention the post width that meant we didn't equalise |
They also missed huge chunks of our best moments from the Villa game when doing their even worse Sunday programme. | |
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| MOTD on 23:15 - Oct 26 with 6386 views | Garv |
With the amount of top saves Muric is making, I don't see him being dropped anytime soon.
It looks like he needs confidence to cut out the mistakes, which he won't get from sitting on the bench. I feel for Walton, but one would imagine him playing would change our natural shape and style a fair bit (not to say he's terrible with his feet). Muric is no.1.
Terrible MOTD coverage by the way. Don't think they actually said anything about how we played. [Post edited 26 Oct 2024 23:16]
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| MOTD on 23:35 - Oct 26 with 6227 views | gainsboroughblue |
| MOTD on 23:15 - Oct 26 by Garv |
With the amount of top saves Muric is making, I don't see him being dropped anytime soon.
It looks like he needs confidence to cut out the mistakes, which he won't get from sitting on the bench. I feel for Walton, but one would imagine him playing would change our natural shape and style a fair bit (not to say he's terrible with his feet). Muric is no.1.
Terrible MOTD coverage by the way. Don't think they actually said anything about how we played. [Post edited 26 Oct 2024 23:16]
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It was perfect for them to hammer home the obvious narrative though wasn't it?
Hey, newly promoted side let's a 2 goal lead slip, lets 4 goals in, gives away a penalty, has a man sent off, concedes injury time goal. Perfect opportunity for a slagging off and a subtext conclusion that we will be fecking off from their private gravy train soon enough.
They did score three times and despite being a man down, nearly salvaged a draw? Oh hell, we don't want to talk about that bit. | |
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| MOTD on 23:58 - Oct 26 with 6048 views | reusersfreekicks |
| MOTD on 22:59 - Oct 26 by gainsboroughblue |
I can be even less complimentary about Shearer. |
What a tw@t. Nothing to say at all. Lazy punditry [Post edited 26 Oct 2024 23:59]
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| MOTD on 00:07 - Oct 27 with 5988 views | Plums |
| MOTD on 23:58 - Oct 26 by reusersfreekicks |
What a tw@t. Nothing to say at all. Lazy punditry [Post edited 26 Oct 2024 23:59]
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Harsh on Gainsborough that. Admittedly, he could have gone further but he's set it up nicely for further comment. |  |
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| MOTD on 00:14 - Oct 27 with 5927 views | itfc_statman |
It was very lazy, but from a statistical analysis point of view we are currently the worst team in the league.
whilst that's not the be-all-and-end-all (certainly, you could fairly argue we're not the worst based on the statistic known as "points won") it's of huge concern. As I said elsewhere, our xGD difference per 90 is -1.35
The worst team last season was Sheffield United with -1.01 and they finished rock bottom on 16 points.
Thankfully I believe there's scope to improve but we need to quickly. | | | |
| MOTD on 00:23 - Oct 27 with 5861 views | bournemouthblue |
| MOTD on 00:14 - Oct 27 by itfc_statman |
It was very lazy, but from a statistical analysis point of view we are currently the worst team in the league.
whilst that's not the be-all-and-end-all (certainly, you could fairly argue we're not the worst based on the statistic known as "points won") it's of huge concern. As I said elsewhere, our xGD difference per 90 is -1.35
The worst team last season was Sheffield United with -1.01 and they finished rock bottom on 16 points.
Thankfully I believe there's scope to improve but we need to quickly. |
Surely that's all complete nonsense given Sheffield shipped close to hundred goals didn't they? |  |
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| MOTD on 00:53 - Oct 27 with 5743 views | WeWereZombies |
The only voice of reason was Linaker with his opening line that finished 'you've got to feel for Ipswich' but it was either a case of the windbags did not share his view or any decent comments got edited out by a producer looking to satisfy the ghoulish appetites of perceived know it alls. |  |
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| MOTD on 00:56 - Oct 27 with 5718 views | reusersfreekicks |
| MOTD on 00:53 - Oct 27 by WeWereZombies |
The only voice of reason was Linaker with his opening line that finished 'you've got to feel for Ipswich' but it was either a case of the windbags did not share his view or any decent comments got edited out by a producer looking to satisfy the ghoulish appetites of perceived know it alls. |
Such one sided b/s | | | |
| MOTD on 01:02 - Oct 27 with 5682 views | WeWereZombies |
Yeah, I can be a bit partisan... | |
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| MOTD on 01:23 - Oct 27 with 5614 views | quirkie |
We to them are just a Swindon, Blackpool, Barnsley, Luton, basically a team to make up the numbers and have one season in the Premier league before going back down.
They are in for a shock, it will come together, and we won't be going down. |  |
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| MOTD on 01:36 - Oct 27 with 5510 views | Mercian |
He is not untypical for England players from that era. Shearer, Owen, Scholes: Great players, zero personality. Cole Palmer carries this trend over to the latest generation. [Post edited 27 Oct 2024 1:38]
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| MOTD on 03:54 - Oct 27 with 5335 views | flykickingbybgunn |
| MOTD on 01:36 - Oct 27 by Mercian |
He is not untypical for England players from that era. Shearer, Owen, Scholes: Great players, zero personality. Cole Palmer carries this trend over to the latest generation. [Post edited 27 Oct 2024 1:38]
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In '93 Shearer of Blackburn was asked on MOTD about the new Premier League. He said "There are no easy games in the Premier League, well, except perhaps for Ipswich at home".
The following season Town won at Ewood Park and I changed my screen saver to "There are no easy games, well, except perhaps for Blackburn Away".
The bloke is an @rse. |  | | |
| MOTD on 05:17 - Oct 27 with 5262 views | tcblue |
I'll never understand MOTD watchers who don't fast forward the "analysis".
That programme should be about half an hour long. The pundits just watch the highlights and puke out insights that are no more... insightful than anyone here could do.
I doubt anyone under a certain age watches it anymore - the highlights are all up on YouTube before MOTD goes to air. | | | |
| MOTD on 06:18 - Oct 27 with 5070 views | bobbyramsey |
They analysed Brentfords goals to death but didn't even mention or show Town's.
Utter tosh..... |  | | |
| MOTD on 06:40 - Oct 27 with 4988 views | Chrisd |
As we all know, stats can be used to support a narrative, for me we might not like it but it does serve to highlight how we are struggling at both ends of the pitch. It might be lazy and highlighting the obvious, but there’s only one way we are going, unless things are addressed. Teams don’t really need to work that hard against us to score goals and we can’t make it that easy against these quality sides. Let’s also not forget, in 9 EPL league games we’ve conceded 4 goals, 3 times already that’s worrying itself. | |
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| MOTD on 08:08 - Oct 27 with 4556 views | WeWereZombies |
| MOTD on 05:17 - Oct 27 by tcblue |
I'll never understand MOTD watchers who don't fast forward the "analysis".
That programme should be about half an hour long. The pundits just watch the highlights and puke out insights that are no more... insightful than anyone here could do.
I doubt anyone under a certain age watches it anymore - the highlights are all up on YouTube before MOTD goes to air. |
Or it could be an hour of extended highlights with the added saving for the licence payer of no fees for Shearer, Lineker, Danny Murphy et al.
I do miss Ian Wright though. | |
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| MOTD on 08:14 - Oct 27 with 4502 views | Reus30 |
| MOTD on 06:40 - Oct 27 by Chrisd |
As we all know, stats can be used to support a narrative, for me we might not like it but it does serve to highlight how we are struggling at both ends of the pitch. It might be lazy and highlighting the obvious, but there’s only one way we are going, unless things are addressed. Teams don’t really need to work that hard against us to score goals and we can’t make it that easy against these quality sides. Let’s also not forget, in 9 EPL league games we’ve conceded 4 goals, 3 times already that’s worrying itself. |
All away from home against tough sides (exception of west ham where we were very poor).
There is hope there and I hope we beat Leicester next week and shut that big eared freak up |  | | |
| MOTD on 08:27 - Oct 27 with 4414 views | forrestsfringe |
| MOTD on 03:54 - Oct 27 by flykickingbybgunn |
In '93 Shearer of Blackburn was asked on MOTD about the new Premier League. He said "There are no easy games in the Premier League, well, except perhaps for Ipswich at home".
The following season Town won at Ewood Park and I changed my screen saver to "There are no easy games, well, except perhaps for Blackburn Away".
The bloke is an @rse. |
He didn’t say that in 1993, he said it in 1995 on the day we lost 9-0 at Old Trafford, as a joke. Albeit, it was nice to get our own back on him and Blackburn in the FA Cup the following year. [Post edited 27 Oct 2024 8:28]
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| MOTD on 08:33 - Oct 27 with 4351 views | itfc_statman |
| MOTD on 00:23 - Oct 27 by bournemouthblue |
Surely that's all complete nonsense given Sheffield shipped close to hundred goals didn't they? |
Not necessarily, but i completely take your point.
What you have to remember is xG is the average probability of a player scoring a goal from that position, with that goalkeepers position, defenders position and proximity etc, is attacker on strong or weak foot or is it a header etc etc.
Sheff Utd basically conceded a lot of goals they shouldn't have done (often can be from v poor goalkeeping) and didn't score goals they should have done (missed chances). | | | |
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