| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith 22:01 - Dec 3 with 2513 views | jasondozzell |
Thought similarly to Forest we came up against a side that has done its homework. Physical and well organised. That didn't really create that much but they were very well set and hard to break down. I think teams are a bit more aware of us now and they are adjusting. Could be compete nonsense but I think Palace pressed aggressively but in controlled manner and kept their shape. They didn't press too much into the final third so we couldn't suck them in in the way we normally do.
Delap is a wonderkid but we can't keep flogging him. Thought he looked a little goosed today.
Both Clarkes good in many moments but also slightly dodgy. O'Shea outstanding and Cajuste Very good.
A rare game where KMac didn't seem to have the answer. I think we need the changes even earlier and he's got to stop himself flogging players through fear of the replacements not quite being of the level.
Ali and Broady did well. Pleased for Ali because a moronic minority have c been disrespectful. I think Broady needs to start next game.
Burns needs his confidence back.
Fair few fans leaving on 80 minutes! Now is the time to double down on the belief. We will stay up but it's going to be a fight to the wire.
Bournemouth huge game for our self belief.
[Post edited 3 Dec 2024 22:03]
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| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:06 - Dec 3 with 2412 views | reusersfreekicks |
Bournemouth are much better than Palace but may give us a bit more space |  | | |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:08 - Dec 3 with 2391 views | jasondozzell |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:06 - Dec 3 by reusersfreekicks |
Bournemouth are much better than Palace but may give us a bit more space |
Let's hope so. I think we need that space. It's almost like the league one days when we couldn't break down the so called lesser sides
Palace seemed very controlled. Like forest they sort of did a three quarter press. We struggle when teams don't step in. | | | |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:11 - Dec 3 with 2345 views | Swansea_Blue |
I was slightly surprised at how well Broady protected the ball. His composure really helped us build a bit of momentum. He couldn’t find a moment of manic to unlock anything, but just having the ball stick and helping to start moves off was a big improvement on Clarke. I think it has to be Broady /Szmodics /Hutch for Bournmouth. I’m not sure whether that’ll be good enough, but it’s probably the best on form. |  |
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| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:16 - Dec 3 with 2290 views | ReusersTown |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:11 - Dec 3 by Swansea_Blue |
I was slightly surprised at how well Broady protected the ball. His composure really helped us build a bit of momentum. He couldn’t find a moment of manic to unlock anything, but just having the ball stick and helping to start moves off was a big improvement on Clarke. I think it has to be Broady /Szmodics /Hutch for Bournmouth. I’m not sure whether that’ll be good enough, but it’s probably the best on form. |
Agree with that line up. Burns is hampering us massively at the moment. Not sure how fit either he or Broadhead are though. |  | | |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:17 - Dec 3 with 2260 views | FrimleyBlue |
Its not a rare game where KM didn't have the answer. There's been 13 of them so far this season.
But more sensibly let's talk about previous seasons.. his town side has struggled against compact sides and he never really did manage to change our way of playing to hurt them. Many of our draws were against those specific types of teams.
When you watch other prem sides going up against compact sides. They get their players behind the ball work their way up the pitch and either...
Hit diags over the top into corners and flood the box.
Or you will see players running all over the shop finding pickets of space. Over and under laps with balls being put through.
Not sure what our game plan was tonight tbh.
The Palace lineup was high yet we didn't hit them over the top.
We didn't go at them fast. We didn't really get at them. We just passed the ball around without any form of pattern.
I absolutely appreciate there is a different in player level. But KM as the manager of this side isn't showing any development as a premiership manager yet. His subs don't work. He's not changing anything. |  |
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| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:20 - Dec 3 with 2221 views | Blue_Heath |
A rare game where McKenna didn't have the answer? He's won one game so beg to differ. Not a criticism as I said at start of season if he takes us down (which I expected) he has the right to try and get us back up again. Mick Mills spot on post match. We haven't got a best 11, only Davis, Delap and perhaps Morsy and Muric have nailed their positions other than Axel who is out again. We create very little and every time we get an attaching throw in etc it ends up back with the keeper after 4/5 passes. | | | |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:21 - Dec 3 with 2206 views | waveneyblue |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:17 - Dec 3 by FrimleyBlue |
Its not a rare game where KM didn't have the answer. There's been 13 of them so far this season.
But more sensibly let's talk about previous seasons.. his town side has struggled against compact sides and he never really did manage to change our way of playing to hurt them. Many of our draws were against those specific types of teams.
When you watch other prem sides going up against compact sides. They get their players behind the ball work their way up the pitch and either...
Hit diags over the top into corners and flood the box.
Or you will see players running all over the shop finding pickets of space. Over and under laps with balls being put through.
Not sure what our game plan was tonight tbh.
The Palace lineup was high yet we didn't hit them over the top.
We didn't go at them fast. We didn't really get at them. We just passed the ball around without any form of pattern.
I absolutely appreciate there is a different in player level. But KM as the manager of this side isn't showing any development as a premiership manager yet. His subs don't work. He's not changing anything. |
You are so strange that I genuinely can't work if you are taking the pi5s or you're being serious with the things you type.
Im probably 50/50 |  | | |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:22 - Dec 3 with 2200 views | itfc_statman |
We had seen statistical improvement in nearly all aspects bar results in the past few games but unfortunately today was back to suggesting we are on par with the worst in the league, if not it.
Ultimately Crystal Palace created 3x the amount of good chances we did and I genuinely thought tonight would be the first win, so I'm a bit gutted. | | | |
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| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:26 - Dec 3 with 2153 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:20 - Dec 3 by Blue_Heath |
A rare game where McKenna didn't have the answer? He's won one game so beg to differ. Not a criticism as I said at start of season if he takes us down (which I expected) he has the right to try and get us back up again. Mick Mills spot on post match. We haven't got a best 11, only Davis, Delap and perhaps Morsy and Muric have nailed their positions other than Axel who is out again. We create very little and every time we get an attaching throw in etc it ends up back with the keeper after 4/5 passes. |
Nonsense Muric, Tuanzebe, O'Shea, Morsey, Hutchinson and Delap and possibly Cajuste are all known as being in the first 11 | | | |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:31 - Dec 3 with 2081 views | SitfcB |
Delap needs to pass more. Something he’s quite selfish. He’s not going to be able to get hold of the ball and do a mazy run every-time.
He had to pass it to Davis before the goal, easy simple pass, get himself in the box. The goal doesn’t happen if he passes it to Davis. |  |
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| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:32 - Dec 3 with 2060 views | jasondozzell |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:17 - Dec 3 by FrimleyBlue |
Its not a rare game where KM didn't have the answer. There's been 13 of them so far this season.
But more sensibly let's talk about previous seasons.. his town side has struggled against compact sides and he never really did manage to change our way of playing to hurt them. Many of our draws were against those specific types of teams.
When you watch other prem sides going up against compact sides. They get their players behind the ball work their way up the pitch and either...
Hit diags over the top into corners and flood the box.
Or you will see players running all over the shop finding pickets of space. Over and under laps with balls being put through.
Not sure what our game plan was tonight tbh.
The Palace lineup was high yet we didn't hit them over the top.
We didn't go at them fast. We didn't really get at them. We just passed the ball around without any form of pattern.
I absolutely appreciate there is a different in player level. But KM as the manager of this side isn't showing any development as a premiership manager yet. His subs don't work. He's not changing anything. |
KMac has kept us competitive in majority of every game bar City away, Everton at home. Even against West Ham we threatened to get back in at one or two points.
To do that against the calibre of opposition we are playing suggests he has a lot of answers.
Agree re your point about compact sides. We did try to hit Delap over the top but balls didn't work.
I think you're right about speed of play. The Delap header came from Lief hitting the cross early. We looked a little lethargic tonight in general. Almost like wev were concentrating too much on our defensive side. | | | |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:33 - Dec 3 with 2019 views | jasondozzell |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:20 - Dec 3 by Blue_Heath |
A rare game where McKenna didn't have the answer? He's won one game so beg to differ. Not a criticism as I said at start of season if he takes us down (which I expected) he has the right to try and get us back up again. Mick Mills spot on post match. We haven't got a best 11, only Davis, Delap and perhaps Morsy and Muric have nailed their positions other than Axel who is out again. We create very little and every time we get an attaching throw in etc it ends up back with the keeper after 4/5 passes. |
He's got a team holding its own in this league that probably has not right to. [Post edited 3 Dec 2024 22:36]
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| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:35 - Dec 3 with 1979 views | jasondozzell |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:31 - Dec 3 by SitfcB |
Delap needs to pass more. Something he’s quite selfish. He’s not going to be able to get hold of the ball and do a mazy run every-time.
He had to pass it to Davis before the goal, easy simple pass, get himself in the box. The goal doesn’t happen if he passes it to Davis. |
Agree. It's great to watch him charge with it but at times his hold up okay isn't as smart as Hirst.
He looked a little like he was trying too hard today whereas normally he looks effortless.
We mustn't become a team reliant only on his goals. | | | |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:37 - Dec 3 with 1926 views | Vaughan8 |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:20 - Dec 3 by Blue_Heath |
A rare game where McKenna didn't have the answer? He's won one game so beg to differ. Not a criticism as I said at start of season if he takes us down (which I expected) he has the right to try and get us back up again. Mick Mills spot on post match. We haven't got a best 11, only Davis, Delap and perhaps Morsy and Muric have nailed their positions other than Axel who is out again. We create very little and every time we get an attaching throw in etc it ends up back with the keeper after 4/5 passes. |
Just out of interest, who do you think would be in our first 11?
I would say
Muric, OShea, Davis, Morsy, Cajuste (on current form), Hutchinson, Delap
Burgess and Greaves are much of a muchness so one of those plays
I don't buy the injuries excuse. Yes Tuanzebe, and Hirst for a different option upfront | | | |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:38 - Dec 3 with 1916 views | itfc_statman |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:33 - Dec 3 by jasondozzell |
He's got a team holding its own in this league that probably has not right to. [Post edited 3 Dec 2024 22:36]
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I dont mean this to be rude and understand I am gutted about tonight which doesn't help but this is a little deluded.
We haven't held our own. We've got a few draws but we've certainly been second best in the strong majority of our games overall this season. As per my other thread, we are still statistically the worst team in the league for chances created vs conceded. That's not holding our own.
That doesn't mean McKenna is doing a bad job because we are, or were, seeing progress up until today over the past 5 games overall. | | | |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:42 - Dec 3 with 1865 views | jasondozzell |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:38 - Dec 3 by itfc_statman |
I dont mean this to be rude and understand I am gutted about tonight which doesn't help but this is a little deluded.
We haven't held our own. We've got a few draws but we've certainly been second best in the strong majority of our games overall this season. As per my other thread, we are still statistically the worst team in the league for chances created vs conceded. That's not holding our own.
That doesn't mean McKenna is doing a bad job because we are, or were, seeing progress up until today over the past 5 games overall. |
Depends on your definition of holding your own . I suppose I see it as being competitive. I think Liverpool, Villa, Fulham, Brentford, Leicester, Spurs, United, and to an extent Forest and Palace would say we competed and gave them a game. We're not getting stuffed every week which could easily happen to a promoted team.
I take your point statistically that we're in trouble. But I don't think we are down and out. I think part of the problem is we're still having to adjust from being the dominant team in two seasons to now one who is having to manage games and counter teams.
Maybe I'm mad and the numbers should make me think the opposite, but I don't think a KM team goes down with a whimper. I think we'll take it to the end. [Post edited 3 Dec 2024 22:44]
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| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 23:24 - Dec 3 with 1663 views | Alan_Handsome |
Last train to Cambridge leaves at 9:20. I’ll jog home next time to prove my worth yeh? Why can’t you just be happy that you are able to watch the whole match rather than p1ssing on fires? |  |
| You can't polish a turd....but you can sprinkle it with glitter! |
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| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 23:26 - Dec 3 with 1617 views | SomethingBlue |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:17 - Dec 3 by FrimleyBlue |
Its not a rare game where KM didn't have the answer. There's been 13 of them so far this season.
But more sensibly let's talk about previous seasons.. his town side has struggled against compact sides and he never really did manage to change our way of playing to hurt them. Many of our draws were against those specific types of teams.
When you watch other prem sides going up against compact sides. They get their players behind the ball work their way up the pitch and either...
Hit diags over the top into corners and flood the box.
Or you will see players running all over the shop finding pickets of space. Over and under laps with balls being put through.
Not sure what our game plan was tonight tbh.
The Palace lineup was high yet we didn't hit them over the top.
We didn't go at them fast. We didn't really get at them. We just passed the ball around without any form of pattern.
I absolutely appreciate there is a different in player level. But KM as the manager of this side isn't showing any development as a premiership manager yet. His subs don't work. He's not changing anything. |
We actually tried quite a lot of direct balls in behind but the execution was usually off.
It's fine to criticise, that wasn't good tonight and we have a problem against teams like Palace, but I'm not really sure what more McKenna can do with what's at his disposal – particularly from the bench. | |
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| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 23:31 - Dec 3 with 1574 views | pointofblue |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:38 - Dec 3 by itfc_statman |
I dont mean this to be rude and understand I am gutted about tonight which doesn't help but this is a little deluded.
We haven't held our own. We've got a few draws but we've certainly been second best in the strong majority of our games overall this season. As per my other thread, we are still statistically the worst team in the league for chances created vs conceded. That's not holding our own.
That doesn't mean McKenna is doing a bad job because we are, or were, seeing progress up until today over the past 5 games overall. |
Forest was a backwards step on Spurs and tonight was a backwards step on Forest. So I'm not sure about progress now. | |
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| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 23:41 - Dec 3 with 1514 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:11 - Dec 3 by Swansea_Blue |
I was slightly surprised at how well Broady protected the ball. His composure really helped us build a bit of momentum. He couldn’t find a moment of manic to unlock anything, but just having the ball stick and helping to start moves off was a big improvement on Clarke. I think it has to be Broady /Szmodics /Hutch for Bournmouth. I’m not sure whether that’ll be good enough, but it’s probably the best on form. |
I have no idea why so many are saying J Clarke had a good game. Often a heavy first touch and brushed off the ball. Broadhead showed more. |  |
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| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 06:17 - Dec 4 with 976 views | Blue_Heath |
| Palace streetwise, some of our fans leaving on 80, and keeping the faith on 22:26 - Dec 3 by reusersfreekicks |
Nonsense Muric, Tuanzebe, O'Shea, Morsey, Hutchinson and Delap and possibly Cajuste are all known as being in the first 11 |
O'Shea starting to make the position his yes, Hutchinson not on right wing where he should be and Cajuste only lasts 60 mins so beg to differ. | | | |
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