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The Human Body is amazing 20:13 - Dec 9 with 3421 viewsPendejo

In the way home this evening my daughter and I witnessed a cyclist vs car collision. Daughter, being first aid trained immediately demanded we stop and help, so we did.

An eager young fellow in an Audi A4 failed to observe a cyclist with flashing light on his cycling helmet, wearing one of those bright white hi vis good crossing a roundabout, until it was too late.

I heard the collision and saw a bike go flying, but did not witness the collision itself.
What I did see was the outcome;-

cyclist in shock, no apparent broken bones

One possible Audi A4 write off - bonnet concertina'd, windscreen smashed (where cyclist had landed), bumper caved in, grille smashed and one door mirror decapitated.

999 said ambulance would take an hour, so I took the cyclist to A&E, offered to stay with him but he declined.

Another witness also stopped and we made sure everyone exchanged details.

If you saw the Audi you would imagine the cyclist unconscious and in a very bad way. The Human body is amazing.

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The Human Body is amazing on 20:54 - Dec 9 with 2948 viewsNthsuffolkblue

The human body is. I presume the cyclist was wearing a helmet and engineering is very good as well.

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The Human Body is amazing on 21:06 - Dec 9 with 2905 viewsBlueBadger

The Human Body is amazing on 20:54 - Dec 9 by Nthsuffolkblue

The human body is. I presume the cyclist was wearing a helmet and engineering is very good as well.


This is what crumple zones are designed to do, to protect against injury.

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The Human Body is amazing on 21:17 - Dec 9 with 2860 viewsITFC_Forever

And then you see no end of cyclists with no lights on the front or back wearing dark clothing.

All the best to the cyclist you saw this evening, who was somewhat more responsible, and he still gets some trouble.

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The Human Body is amazing on 21:20 - Dec 9 with 2840 viewsKievthegreat

The Human Body is amazing on 21:17 - Dec 9 by ITFC_Forever

And then you see no end of cyclists with no lights on the front or back wearing dark clothing.

All the best to the cyclist you saw this evening, who was somewhat more responsible, and he still gets some trouble.


"you see no end of cyclists with no lights on the front or back wearing dark clothing"

I mean, this isn't wrong per se, but it's completely irrelevant to this topic.
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The Human Body is amazing on 21:20 - Dec 9 with 2832 viewsChris_ITFC

"Also I'm amazing"
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The Human Body is amazing on 21:30 - Dec 9 with 2802 viewsfactual_blue

The Human Body is amazing on 21:20 - Dec 9 by Kievthegreat

"you see no end of cyclists with no lights on the front or back wearing dark clothing"

I mean, this isn't wrong per se, but it's completely irrelevant to this topic.


But you saw them, so they're clearly visible.

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The Human Body is amazing on 21:32 - Dec 9 with 2785 viewsChris_ITFC

The Human Body is amazing on 21:30 - Dec 9 by factual_blue

But you saw them, so they're clearly visible.


If I had a pound every time I didn't see a cyclist...
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The Human Body is amazing on 21:35 - Dec 9 with 2766 viewsfactual_blue

The Human Body is amazing on 21:06 - Dec 9 by BlueBadger

This is what crumple zones are designed to do, to protect against injury.


I can't help thinking of the story of the entitled, status-obsessed BMW. He parka his shiny car, flings the door open without looking, and a passing car rips the door off.

He stands, stunned, muttering over and over 'My pride and joy, my beautiful shiny BMW. Ruined.'

A pedestrian who saw the accident points out to him that he should be less concerned about his car, and more concerned about the fact that the collision has ripped his arm off.

The driver looks down to where his arm used to be, and wails 'My Rolex, where's my Rolex?'
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The Human Body is amazing on 21:38 - Dec 9 with 2709 viewsfactual_blue

The Human Body is amazing on 21:32 - Dec 9 by Chris_ITFC

If I had a pound every time I didn't see a cyclist...


When I'm driving, I only see a cyclist on the rare occasions I open my eyes.

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The Human Body is amazing on 21:47 - Dec 9 with 2661 viewsPendejo

The Human Body is amazing on 21:20 - Dec 9 by Chris_ITFC

"Also I'm amazing"


Not knowingly met you, I'm sure you are....

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The Human Body is amazing on 05:00 - Dec 10 with 2385 viewsBenters

That was a blooming decent thing you and your Daughter did there 👍.

I hope the said person is ok,he will ache like fk for a fair while after all that.

I had a crash turning into a corner doing around 15mph on my bike after hitting a load of what I believe was diesel on the road,I did my left hip and Spanish archer,that was on the 6th November and I’ve only just recorded from that.

Thanks for doing what you did.

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The Human Body is amazing on 07:13 - Dec 10 with 2285 viewsBenters

The Human Body is amazing on 20:54 - Dec 9 by Nthsuffolkblue

The human body is. I presume the cyclist was wearing a helmet and engineering is very good as well.


According to Flash the helmet is a waste of time and the said cyclist would have been better off without it.😳
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The Human Body is amazing on 07:58 - Dec 10 with 2218 viewsnoggin

"999 said ambulance would take an hour, so I took the cyclist to A&E, offered to stay with him but he declined."

You Sir are a hero. If only more people had such common sense and kindness. Unfortunately, at least where I work, you would be advised to leave the cyclist lying on the ground and not to move him, until an ambulance arrives. Absolute idiocy but a sad sign of the times. Healthcare workers being unable to make, what should be simple decisions, due to irrational fear of doing something wrong.

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The Human Body is amazing on 09:05 - Dec 10 with 2095 viewsChurchman

The Human Body is amazing on 07:58 - Dec 10 by noggin

"999 said ambulance would take an hour, so I took the cyclist to A&E, offered to stay with him but he declined."

You Sir are a hero. If only more people had such common sense and kindness. Unfortunately, at least where I work, you would be advised to leave the cyclist lying on the ground and not to move him, until an ambulance arrives. Absolute idiocy but a sad sign of the times. Healthcare workers being unable to make, what should be simple decisions, due to irrational fear of doing something wrong.


Well done Pendejo and daughter!

Making people comfortable where they are (assuming there’s no greater risk in situ eg fire) was the preferred option, but with a degraded, under pressure service you have to take the least worse option.

Two or three weeks ago Mrs C and I were in a pretty empty supermarket and approaching the checkout and saw a woman sitting in a chair with a huddle of anxious people, one on the phone. Not good thought I. The staff member suddenly shouted ‘is there anyone here who knows first aid?’. I looked around in hope. Nobody came.

I used to do it for reasons not relevant to this post, but my last qualification ran out about 8 or so years ago. Should I walk on by? Sidle out to the car? Let somebody else deal with it? Nah, couldn’t do that - there just wasn’t anyone else. So over to them I went and said look I’m well out of date with this but happy (I lied) to help.

The elderly woman wasn’t well to say the least. Her daughter was on the phone to the emergency services who told her 90 minute wait. No good. The woman was pretty unresponsive, cold as hell, ashen coloured but breathing ok but I didn’t think she had 90 mins and I wasn’t about to stand around watching somebody pass away like that. ‘Tell them she’s unconscious and we need somebody right now please’. All she got back was ‘get her on the floor’. ‘Don’t know how to’ the daughter said, her and others panic rising. I do, said I. ‘Not a problem, she’ll be fine, but I think she’s best where she is just at this moment, as she’s comfortable. We can put x into recovery position if we need to’. Asked a few question while I was really thinking, fk, Houston we have a problem here.

So it was put my coat and another over her and another on the floor in case we (me) needed to do get her down to do CPR, bit of organising, ask the assistant to move the few spectators out of the way. And decide what next. Well, the options were wait - no option really. She was really not well. Get her into my car and take her ten mins to the nearest hospital that would at least have medical people? Least worse options, both really poor.

Then I saw blue lights arriving. Mafeking was relieved! As they drew up I went out explained exactly what I could see, took them to her and they started doing their stuff. The daughter said thanks and I left them to it.

Did I do right or wrong? No idea but there wasn’t anyone else who had any idea (I thought these places were meant to have a first aider?) and best decisions sometimes have to be enough. But I really didn’t do anything at all as it turned out, thank goodness, beyond maybe projecting a little calm and organisation.

Over the time I was qualified to do it, there were a few things I had to deal with and as a little life skill, I’d recommend that anyone interested gets some training. It tells you what not to do as well as do. The training did change over the years I did it, but as I say - some knowledge is better than nothing.

The big concern is our underfunded, under resourced emergency services. It’s a disgrace like so much of what the tories left. I wonder how many people have died thanks to their crude, disinterested assault on services? There is no excuse whatsoever for it.

One for the list Sir Kier!
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The Human Body is amazing on 09:08 - Dec 10 with 2060 viewsblueasfook

The Human Body is amazing on 07:13 - Dec 10 by Benters

According to Flash the helmet is a waste of time and the said cyclist would have been better off without it.😳
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Off all the dumb things he ever posted, that ranks up there with the best of them.

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The Human Body is amazing on 09:18 - Dec 10 with 1987 viewsblueasfook

A nice act of kindness, well done. I had a motorcycle accident on Phuket last year. Not badly injured, just some grazes and bruises. I was overwhelmed by the kindness of the locals who stopped and helped me. Put the bike on the back of their truck and offered to take me to the hospital. I declined that but accepted a lift to my hotel which was about 20km away. Also the motorcycle guy who only charged me 1000baht (about 20 quid) for the repairs to the bike!

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The Human Body is amazing on 09:55 - Dec 10 with 1900 viewsChurchman

The Human Body is amazing on 09:18 - Dec 10 by blueasfook

A nice act of kindness, well done. I had a motorcycle accident on Phuket last year. Not badly injured, just some grazes and bruises. I was overwhelmed by the kindness of the locals who stopped and helped me. Put the bike on the back of their truck and offered to take me to the hospital. I declined that but accepted a lift to my hotel which was about 20km away. Also the motorcycle guy who only charged me 1000baht (about 20 quid) for the repairs to the bike!


I think the vast majority of people are decent. There is a percentage of a’holes, unpleasant and downright evil people, but they’re a minority.

The media tend to focus on the bad. It’s far sexier, fashionable and sells more ‘copy’ (not sure if that term is still used). It always was - just look at the attendance two or three hundred years ago at public executions.
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The Human Body is amazing on 10:11 - Dec 10 with 1847 viewsBenters

The Human Body is amazing on 09:08 - Dec 10 by blueasfook

Off all the dumb things he ever posted, that ranks up there with the best of them.


This

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The Human Body is amazing on 10:13 - Dec 10 with 1842 viewsnoggin

The Human Body is amazing on 09:05 - Dec 10 by Churchman

Well done Pendejo and daughter!

Making people comfortable where they are (assuming there’s no greater risk in situ eg fire) was the preferred option, but with a degraded, under pressure service you have to take the least worse option.

Two or three weeks ago Mrs C and I were in a pretty empty supermarket and approaching the checkout and saw a woman sitting in a chair with a huddle of anxious people, one on the phone. Not good thought I. The staff member suddenly shouted ‘is there anyone here who knows first aid?’. I looked around in hope. Nobody came.

I used to do it for reasons not relevant to this post, but my last qualification ran out about 8 or so years ago. Should I walk on by? Sidle out to the car? Let somebody else deal with it? Nah, couldn’t do that - there just wasn’t anyone else. So over to them I went and said look I’m well out of date with this but happy (I lied) to help.

The elderly woman wasn’t well to say the least. Her daughter was on the phone to the emergency services who told her 90 minute wait. No good. The woman was pretty unresponsive, cold as hell, ashen coloured but breathing ok but I didn’t think she had 90 mins and I wasn’t about to stand around watching somebody pass away like that. ‘Tell them she’s unconscious and we need somebody right now please’. All she got back was ‘get her on the floor’. ‘Don’t know how to’ the daughter said, her and others panic rising. I do, said I. ‘Not a problem, she’ll be fine, but I think she’s best where she is just at this moment, as she’s comfortable. We can put x into recovery position if we need to’. Asked a few question while I was really thinking, fk, Houston we have a problem here.

So it was put my coat and another over her and another on the floor in case we (me) needed to do get her down to do CPR, bit of organising, ask the assistant to move the few spectators out of the way. And decide what next. Well, the options were wait - no option really. She was really not well. Get her into my car and take her ten mins to the nearest hospital that would at least have medical people? Least worse options, both really poor.

Then I saw blue lights arriving. Mafeking was relieved! As they drew up I went out explained exactly what I could see, took them to her and they started doing their stuff. The daughter said thanks and I left them to it.

Did I do right or wrong? No idea but there wasn’t anyone else who had any idea (I thought these places were meant to have a first aider?) and best decisions sometimes have to be enough. But I really didn’t do anything at all as it turned out, thank goodness, beyond maybe projecting a little calm and organisation.

Over the time I was qualified to do it, there were a few things I had to deal with and as a little life skill, I’d recommend that anyone interested gets some training. It tells you what not to do as well as do. The training did change over the years I did it, but as I say - some knowledge is better than nothing.

The big concern is our underfunded, under resourced emergency services. It’s a disgrace like so much of what the tories left. I wonder how many people have died thanks to their crude, disinterested assault on services? There is no excuse whatsoever for it.

One for the list Sir Kier!


Excellent work. I would sy driving her to the hospital would have been the best option, given the ridiculous waiting time for an ambulance. Get help to carry her in as flat position as possible and lay her on the back seat with a passenger to watch her breathing as you drive. Sounds like she was critically ill and as you said, might not have survived 90 minutes.

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The Human Body is amazing on 10:43 - Dec 10 with 1775 viewsChurchman

The Human Body is amazing on 10:13 - Dec 10 by noggin

Excellent work. I would sy driving her to the hospital would have been the best option, given the ridiculous waiting time for an ambulance. Get help to carry her in as flat position as possible and lay her on the back seat with a passenger to watch her breathing as you drive. Sounds like she was critically ill and as you said, might not have survived 90 minutes.


That was my best plan, if you can call it that. Yes, she was critically ill. A brain bleed? It wasn’t obvious.

I think telling them she was unconscious was what bumped her up the priority list and got the paramedics there quicker.

They were still working on her inside the building when we drove out. I never found out what happened to her. Funnily enough in the incidents I had involvement with back in the day I rarely did. But that was fine - you don’t get involved for that.

That makes me sound like Uncle Albert - wasn’t that bad, but I did used to don the HV jacket at certain events which led to the odd bit of excitement in addition to the odd workplace and other incidents. You just do what you can within your limitations.
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The Human Body is amazing on 11:00 - Dec 10 with 1752 viewsRyorry

Being involved in incidents like that can shake observers up too, so people should take care of themselves as well as others afterwards.

When I was quite a young kid (about 7-8?) we (my parents & bro) drove past an accident where a cyclist was on the ground, head bleeding (but I think it was raised & he was conscious) being tended to by several people. Pre-helmet days. I remember my Dad saying "don't look, don't look"... but of course ... and it had the positive effect that I've given cyclists a great deal of room & patience ever since I started driving.

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The Human Body is amazing on 14:42 - Dec 10 with 1533 viewsronnyd

The Human Body is amazing on 11:00 - Dec 10 by Ryorry

Being involved in incidents like that can shake observers up too, so people should take care of themselves as well as others afterwards.

When I was quite a young kid (about 7-8?) we (my parents & bro) drove past an accident where a cyclist was on the ground, head bleeding (but I think it was raised & he was conscious) being tended to by several people. Pre-helmet days. I remember my Dad saying "don't look, don't look"... but of course ... and it had the positive effect that I've given cyclists a great deal of room & patience ever since I started driving.


Just watch a few Ashley Neal video's on YouTube. They're quite an eye opener. Wouldn't fancy cycling or driving in Liverpool.
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The Human Body is amazing on 14:49 - Dec 10 with 1504 viewsRyorry

The Human Body is amazing on 14:42 - Dec 10 by ronnyd

Just watch a few Ashley Neal video's on YouTube. They're quite an eye opener. Wouldn't fancy cycling or driving in Liverpool.


Also ‘Caught on Dashcam’ that I saw by chance one night and became a fan of. Incredible footage (none where anyone was seriously hurt), but what really makes it is the acerbic humour commentary.

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The Human Body is amazing on 08:31 - Dec 11 with 1114 viewsPendejo

The Human Body is amazing on 09:05 - Dec 10 by Churchman

Well done Pendejo and daughter!

Making people comfortable where they are (assuming there’s no greater risk in situ eg fire) was the preferred option, but with a degraded, under pressure service you have to take the least worse option.

Two or three weeks ago Mrs C and I were in a pretty empty supermarket and approaching the checkout and saw a woman sitting in a chair with a huddle of anxious people, one on the phone. Not good thought I. The staff member suddenly shouted ‘is there anyone here who knows first aid?’. I looked around in hope. Nobody came.

I used to do it for reasons not relevant to this post, but my last qualification ran out about 8 or so years ago. Should I walk on by? Sidle out to the car? Let somebody else deal with it? Nah, couldn’t do that - there just wasn’t anyone else. So over to them I went and said look I’m well out of date with this but happy (I lied) to help.

The elderly woman wasn’t well to say the least. Her daughter was on the phone to the emergency services who told her 90 minute wait. No good. The woman was pretty unresponsive, cold as hell, ashen coloured but breathing ok but I didn’t think she had 90 mins and I wasn’t about to stand around watching somebody pass away like that. ‘Tell them she’s unconscious and we need somebody right now please’. All she got back was ‘get her on the floor’. ‘Don’t know how to’ the daughter said, her and others panic rising. I do, said I. ‘Not a problem, she’ll be fine, but I think she’s best where she is just at this moment, as she’s comfortable. We can put x into recovery position if we need to’. Asked a few question while I was really thinking, fk, Houston we have a problem here.

So it was put my coat and another over her and another on the floor in case we (me) needed to do get her down to do CPR, bit of organising, ask the assistant to move the few spectators out of the way. And decide what next. Well, the options were wait - no option really. She was really not well. Get her into my car and take her ten mins to the nearest hospital that would at least have medical people? Least worse options, both really poor.

Then I saw blue lights arriving. Mafeking was relieved! As they drew up I went out explained exactly what I could see, took them to her and they started doing their stuff. The daughter said thanks and I left them to it.

Did I do right or wrong? No idea but there wasn’t anyone else who had any idea (I thought these places were meant to have a first aider?) and best decisions sometimes have to be enough. But I really didn’t do anything at all as it turned out, thank goodness, beyond maybe projecting a little calm and organisation.

Over the time I was qualified to do it, there were a few things I had to deal with and as a little life skill, I’d recommend that anyone interested gets some training. It tells you what not to do as well as do. The training did change over the years I did it, but as I say - some knowledge is better than nothing.

The big concern is our underfunded, under resourced emergency services. It’s a disgrace like so much of what the tories left. I wonder how many people have died thanks to their crude, disinterested assault on services? There is no excuse whatsoever for it.

One for the list Sir Kier!


Daughter is FA trained and positively thrives in these situations, as the phrase goes "it wasn't her first rodeo", she has a letter of commendation from the local Net Borough Commander for saving a cyclist's life (no helmet).

The Supermarket is shameful, probably a rostering issue? Isn't the a statutory duty to have "x" FA to "y" staff? Not sure how this extends to customers.
And they may have the correct ratio but not paid attention to their Rota - all off shift at same time.

Finally, being calm is an underrated "skill" and can be as contagious as hysteria.

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The Human Body is amazing on 08:50 - Dec 11 with 1082 viewsChurchman

The Human Body is amazing on 08:31 - Dec 11 by Pendejo

Daughter is FA trained and positively thrives in these situations, as the phrase goes "it wasn't her first rodeo", she has a letter of commendation from the local Net Borough Commander for saving a cyclist's life (no helmet).

The Supermarket is shameful, probably a rostering issue? Isn't the a statutory duty to have "x" FA to "y" staff? Not sure how this extends to customers.
And they may have the correct ratio but not paid attention to their Rota - all off shift at same time.

Finally, being calm is an underrated "skill" and can be as contagious as hysteria.


Well done to your daughter and very well deserved recognition!

I thought supermarkets had to provide a first aider too. Mind you, they have so few staff these days maybe any rules have been relaxed?

Yes, appearing calm, even if you are paddling like hell underneath, is a skill. Fortunately, calmness in situations/pressure is one of the very few things I’ve always been ok at. Or at least appearing that way, which is half the battle.
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