| Cunha injured 16:13 - Dec 29 with 5163 views | Ftnfwest |
The ban will no doubt come in immediately now |  | | |  |
| Cunha injured on 16:15 - Dec 29 with 4757 views | gainsboroughblue |
Are the two scenarios allowed to go together in hand?
Can't say I know the rules on that. |  |
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| Cunha injured on 16:16 - Dec 29 with 4734 views | berkstractorboy |
The FA have made a monumental mess of this unlike the EFL that seem capable of functioning when teams are still paying.
Any suspension is supposed to be a punishment to the player and Wolves not serve it when injured!! |  | | |
| Cunha injured on 16:21 - Dec 29 with 4644 views | Ftnfwest |
| Cunha injured on 16:15 - Dec 29 by gainsboroughblue |
Are the two scenarios allowed to go together in hand?
Can't say I know the rules on that. |
Not sure tbh but knowing our luck… | | | |
| Cunha injured on 16:22 - Dec 29 with 4632 views | EastTownBlue |
| Cunha injured on 16:16 - Dec 29 by berkstractorboy |
The FA have made a monumental mess of this unlike the EFL that seem capable of functioning when teams are still paying.
Any suspension is supposed to be a punishment to the player and Wolves not serve it when injured!! |
Suspensions are handed out by the FA. I doubt that the EFL look at matches injured along with the PL. [Post edited 29 Dec 2024 16:24]
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| Cunha injured on 16:23 - Dec 29 with 4619 views | Ftnfwest |
| Cunha injured on 16:16 - Dec 29 by berkstractorboy |
The FA have made a monumental mess of this unlike the EFL that seem capable of functioning when teams are still paying.
Any suspension is supposed to be a punishment to the player and Wolves not serve it when injured!! |
Well quite, whatever else the current situation is that someone that should clearly have been banned is being rewarded, as are his club. | | | |
| Cunha injured on 16:30 - Dec 29 with 4505 views | BrentwoodBlagger2 |
| Cunha injured on 16:15 - Dec 29 by gainsboroughblue |
Are the two scenarios allowed to go together in hand?
Can't say I know the rules on that. |
Wolves will just lie and claim he is fit anyway, so the ban will be while he is recovering from injury. Starting to despise Wolves. Not too sure if fitness to play affects a ban TBH | | | |
| Cunha injured on 16:42 - Dec 29 with 4321 views | berkstractorboy |
| Cunha injured on 16:22 - Dec 29 by EastTownBlue |
Suspensions are handed out by the FA. I doubt that the EFL look at matches injured along with the PL. [Post edited 29 Dec 2024 16:24]
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You get the point. EFL players have been punished for games since we played Wolves and the FA allowed Cunha to play on and get injured so if he gets a ban now there is no justice for the other teams in the EPL | | | |
| Cunha injured on 16:47 - Dec 29 with 4254 views | tonybied |
| Cunha injured on 16:30 - Dec 29 by BrentwoodBlagger2 |
Wolves will just lie and claim he is fit anyway, so the ban will be while he is recovering from injury. Starting to despise Wolves. Not too sure if fitness to play affects a ban TBH |
The FA should wait until Wolves play him again before bringing in the ban but we all know it will come now he's ruled out, meaning no real punishment for his disgusting behaviour. |  | | |
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| Cunha injured on 16:56 - Dec 29 with 4161 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
What I don't understand is that he assaulted someone after the final whistle. It wasn't a player and it wasn't in the context of the match itself. Why isn't he facing police charges? |  |
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| Cunha injured on 16:57 - Dec 29 with 4137 views | EastTownBlue |
| Cunha injured on 16:56 - Dec 29 by Nthsuffolkblue |
What I don't understand is that he assaulted someone after the final whistle. It wasn't a player and it wasn't in the context of the match itself. Why isn't he facing police charges? |
How often is a violent act on a football field subject to police action ? | | | |
| Cunha injured on 17:02 - Dec 29 with 4050 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Cunha injured on 16:57 - Dec 29 by EastTownBlue |
How often is a violent act on a football field subject to police action ? |
Generally when a fan is involved but I believe Joey Barton's actions have on at least one occasion.
How often do you see a player assault an opposition coach after the final whistle? | |
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| Cunha injured on 17:04 - Dec 29 with 4004 views | BrentwoodBlagger2 |
| Cunha injured on 16:15 - Dec 29 by gainsboroughblue |
Are the two scenarios allowed to go together in hand?
Can't say I know the rules on that. |
Tim Sherwood just commented on Wolves - ‘they have the dark arts off to a T’…….. cheats in other words. | | | |
| Cunha injured on 17:06 - Dec 29 with 3953 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Cunha injured on 17:04 - Dec 29 by BrentwoodBlagger2 |
Tim Sherwood just commented on Wolves - ‘they have the dark arts off to a T’…….. cheats in other words. |
To be fair, he was referring to League 1-style time wasting. He said the ball was hardly in play since they equalised. It is poor that even Premier League referees are unable to prevent that happening. | |
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| Cunha injured on 17:08 - Dec 29 with 3924 views | Chris_ITFC |
Sorry to be all rational about this, but ultimately he’s still going to miss however many games he’s banned for. If he’d already been banned, he probably wouldn’t be injured now. |  |
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| Cunha injured on 17:37 - Dec 29 with 3733 views | Ryorry |
| Cunha injured on 17:08 - Dec 29 by Chris_ITFC |
Sorry to be all rational about this, but ultimately he’s still going to miss however many games he’s banned for. If he’d already been banned, he probably wouldn’t be injured now. |
Good point that. Even so, it stinks. |  |
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| Cunha injured on 17:39 - Dec 29 with 3727 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Cunha injured on 17:08 - Dec 29 by Chris_ITFC |
Sorry to be all rational about this, but ultimately he’s still going to miss however many games he’s banned for. If he’d already been banned, he probably wouldn’t be injured now. |
Do you think the 7 points his team has gained whilst he has remained available while on good form might matter?
He may well have got injured in training too and still missed those matches alongside the 3 he has played. | |
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| Cunha injured on 17:44 - Dec 29 with 3692 views | PhilTWTD |
| Cunha injured on 16:42 - Dec 29 by berkstractorboy |
You get the point. EFL players have been punished for games since we played Wolves and the FA allowed Cunha to play on and get injured so if he gets a ban now there is no justice for the other teams in the EPL |
Can't see that there have been any FA hearings into EFL charges since Cunha was charged. Only hearing I can see is Rodrigo Bentancur's appeal against an earlier suspension, which presumably had been set up a while beforehand.
https://x.com/FAspokesperson
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| Cunha injured on 17:57 - Dec 29 with 3578 views | iamatractorboy |
| Cunha injured on 16:57 - Dec 29 by EastTownBlue |
How often is a violent act on a football field subject to police action ? |
Didn't Duncan Ferguson do time for it? I admit that is one example among 100s of incidents that don't have that consequence. | | | |
| Cunha injured on 18:05 - Dec 29 with 3506 views | berkstractorboy |
| Cunha injured on 17:44 - Dec 29 by PhilTWTD |
Can't see that there have been any FA hearings into EFL charges since Cunha was charged. Only hearing I can see is Rodrigo Bentancur's appeal against an earlier suspension, which presumably had been set up a while beforehand.
https://x.com/FAspokesperson
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Villa appealed Duran's red card which got upheld and a Carlisle player sent off on boxing day has been overturned so available for today.
Assume these are a different 'process' to the one Cunha going through then?
The FA could have set a hearing on 20th or 23rd Dec for Cunha, there can be very little mitigating circumstance that mean an elbow to the back of someone's head is acceptable. | | | |
| Cunha injured on 18:08 - Dec 29 with 3462 views | SimonBatfordITFC |
| Cunha injured on 18:05 - Dec 29 by berkstractorboy |
Villa appealed Duran's red card which got upheld and a Carlisle player sent off on boxing day has been overturned so available for today.
Assume these are a different 'process' to the one Cunha going through then?
The FA could have set a hearing on 20th or 23rd Dec for Cunha, there can be very little mitigating circumstance that mean an elbow to the back of someone's head is acceptable. |
Overturning a red card which is incorrect in law is an entirely different and much simpler process than hearing an extraordinary misconduct charge. The FA will need to assemble an independent panel for the hearing and agree a date upon which the defendant and witnesses can attend. | | | |
| Cunha injured on 18:09 - Dec 29 with 3438 views | PhilTWTD |
| Cunha injured on 18:05 - Dec 29 by berkstractorboy |
Villa appealed Duran's red card which got upheld and a Carlisle player sent off on boxing day has been overturned so available for today.
Assume these are a different 'process' to the one Cunha going through then?
The FA could have set a hearing on 20th or 23rd Dec for Cunha, there can be very little mitigating circumstance that mean an elbow to the back of someone's head is acceptable. |
Indeed, a different process for red card appeals. | | | |
| Cunha injured on 19:31 - Dec 29 with 3008 views | Blue_In_Boston |
| Cunha injured on 16:57 - Dec 29 by EastTownBlue |
How often is a violent act on a football field subject to police action ? |
Never involving players and nor should it, and the same applies to all sports. I know we're talking handbags in this case, but some on play incidents over the years could be classed as ABH. To have the police involved would open up a right can of worms.
Likewise suspensions never have taken into account injuries. If his suspension coincides that's just the way it is and has always been. | | | |
| Cunha injured on 20:52 - Dec 29 with 2688 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
The ultimate skullduggery approach would be for our steward to put in an allegation to the Police now. Then the FA will have to defer the disciplinary case until due legal process is complete.
Once Cunha is back training the steward could withdraw the complaint. Then the FA disciplinary process would begin.
Maximum time out.
Not that I would advocate it, just an observation. | | | |
| Cunha injured on 20:57 - Dec 29 with 2649 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Cunha injured on 19:31 - Dec 29 by Blue_In_Boston |
Never involving players and nor should it, and the same applies to all sports. I know we're talking handbags in this case, but some on play incidents over the years could be classed as ABH. To have the police involved would open up a right can of worms.
Likewise suspensions never have taken into account injuries. If his suspension coincides that's just the way it is and has always been. |
Disagree. There is a difference between a sporting incident and an intentional assault. If a player starts swinging punches and does serious injury, that is a police matter. | | | |
| Cunha injured on 21:11 - Dec 29 with 2591 views | bsw72 |
| Cunha injured on 17:39 - Dec 29 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Do you think the 7 points his team has gained whilst he has remained available while on good form might matter?
He may well have got injured in training too and still missed those matches alongside the 3 he has played. |
Not saying it’s right, but all our bitching and moaning doesn’t change the fact that Wolves have played the system in their favour currently, and have followed the rules played out.
We need to put on our big boy pants suck it up and win some points of our own. |  | | |
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