Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? 19:50 - Jan 3 with 2961 views | FromReuserWithLove | How do you feel about that purchase now? Would you buy another? |  | | |  |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 19:53 - Jan 3 with 2936 views | EJP | I have a friend with one. His opinion is lovely car, but he has it as a company car and tax reasons, if it was his own money he’d not have one. |  | |  |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 20:36 - Jan 3 with 2800 views | Westover | I have a friend who has one and he wishes he had not bought it but has to keep it as it's lost so much in value. I had a ride in one for over an hour and sitting in the back I thought the ride was poor not at all comfortable. |  | |  |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 20:48 - Jan 3 with 2709 views | DarkBrandon | I have one. Genuinely wonderful cars and the supercharger network is everything public charging should be. Bought it when EM was just slightly annoying rather than a colossal bell end. I don’t regret it, but I hope when it comes time to replace it someone like Polestar makes a worthy competitor. |  | |  |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 20:50 - Jan 3 with 2692 views | Swansea_Blue |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 20:36 - Jan 3 by Westover | I have a friend who has one and he wishes he had not bought it but has to keep it as it's lost so much in value. I had a ride in one for over an hour and sitting in the back I thought the ride was poor not at all comfortable. |
They look nice with the open space inside and big screens. And they’re powerful. But I’ve heard that car enthusiasts don’t rate them much. Apparently the build quality is pretty poor. My brother in law is a design engineer and he doesn’t rate them, but he’s super critical of many marques so I take that with a pinch of salt. I’m not sure how much Musk has had to do with the actual cars though - I’d have thought he’s kept at arms length. |  |
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Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 22:11 - Jan 3 with 2451 views | Pendejo |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 20:50 - Jan 3 by Swansea_Blue | They look nice with the open space inside and big screens. And they’re powerful. But I’ve heard that car enthusiasts don’t rate them much. Apparently the build quality is pretty poor. My brother in law is a design engineer and he doesn’t rate them, but he’s super critical of many marques so I take that with a pinch of salt. I’m not sure how much Musk has had to do with the actual cars though - I’d have thought he’s kept at arms length. |
Have you seen the Cyber Truck? Definitely designed by a child... Or man child... |  |
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Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 22:18 - Jan 3 with 2382 views | Oldsmoker | Well, count me out - I'm not a decent human being. |  |
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Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 22:23 - Jan 3 with 2356 views | BloomBlue | Had a model Y for a short period. Great technology, but terrible handling/ride. A dodgem was probably more comfortable on British roads than that car, got shot of it quickly. But I think Musk/Tesla should be given huge credit. Without Tesla we wouldn't be anywhere this far down the road with EVs without them. Toyota were basically saying up to 2 years ago they weren't going to invest a lot into electric cars as they didn't see it as the future. We can argue about eletric cars, and if global warming even exists, but if EVs are as key to preventing it as the experts say, then credit to Musk/Tesla. Although within 8 years there will only be Chinese car manufacturers so no Musk/Tesla (or VW, BMI, Ford etc) so no need to worry about Musk. |  | |  |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 22:28 - Jan 3 with 2327 views | Pendejo | I have 15 of them.... I Well, I've acquired 15 for my Fleet over the past 3.5 years 1 x Model S - the only vehicle when offered it for the weekend I've said "no thanks". But would happily cruise a motorway in one 2 x Model 3 - The model I've driven the most 12 x Model Y Ours get serious use as they're hired out for mini cab / chauffeur work, so do more than 20,000 miles a year. They're more reliable than BMW or Mercedes, and when they go wrong the car sends for help and a mobile technician comes around. Our client base loves them. I will be replacing our Polestar 2s with Teslas later this year... |  |
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Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 22:37 - Jan 3 with 2284 views | WicklowBlue | For clarity I don't own a Tesla so in the spirit of your OP I can't answer your question. However as someone looking to trade in my Diesel for a BEV..... From being couriered around in CA with work, Tesla's are fun in terms of software.. like the IPhone was back in the day. They are seriously rapid like most BEVs but I never really liked the design and from my pov they are aging in terms of exterior design, though the newer model 3 is better. Anyways, the biggest issue I have with Tesla is the minimalist design throughout. Plus with the newest model deciding to have indicators as buttons on the steering wheel is a no no for me. Let alone the yoke which was in the Model S iirc. In short, great value out there in terms of second hand BEVs and Tesla is a real consideration. Personally, I hate the minimalist stuff and the fake leather is crap! The infotainment is probably up there but not sure I'd buy a car just because it can make fart noises, or can depict pedestrians as elves or other vehicles as Santa with his massive sleigh. Like all cars go and test drive it, if it's your kinda thing get one. Great deals to be had at the moment, but for comparison go test drive an Ioniq 5, EV6 as well. P.S. If looking at a Model 3, Polestar 2...type BEV do checkout the BYD Seal as well. Before Chinese tariffs are a thing... [Post edited 3 Jan 22:43]
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Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 22:44 - Jan 3 with 2217 views | Swansea_Blue |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 22:11 - Jan 3 by Pendejo | Have you seen the Cyber Truck? Definitely designed by a child... Or man child... |
Oh yeah, that’s utterly sh*t and an ego project. |  |
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Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 22:48 - Jan 3 with 2197 views | Durovigutum | When they had model Ys on cheap lease deals in October I thought about it, but the thought of spending money on a company linked to Musk put me off. Two months later I leased a VW ID Buzz instead, which should arrive in time to take me to the Brighton game! |  | |  |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 23:02 - Jan 3 with 2121 views | Swansea_Blue |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 22:23 - Jan 3 by BloomBlue | Had a model Y for a short period. Great technology, but terrible handling/ride. A dodgem was probably more comfortable on British roads than that car, got shot of it quickly. But I think Musk/Tesla should be given huge credit. Without Tesla we wouldn't be anywhere this far down the road with EVs without them. Toyota were basically saying up to 2 years ago they weren't going to invest a lot into electric cars as they didn't see it as the future. We can argue about eletric cars, and if global warming even exists, but if EVs are as key to preventing it as the experts say, then credit to Musk/Tesla. Although within 8 years there will only be Chinese car manufacturers so no Musk/Tesla (or VW, BMI, Ford etc) so no need to worry about Musk. |
“Without Tesla we wouldn't be anywhere this far down the road with EVs without them“. I could be wrong, but don’t believe that’s the case. All the UK design houses were doing EV work for the mainstream manufacturers by the time Teslas hit our roads. They got the jump time wise by a bout a year, but manufacturers were moving to EV design in response to govt policy, not Tesla’s progress. (Which hasn’t worked out, as the uptake hasn’t been anywhere near as high as expected, partly due to cost and partly changes to policy under the last govt, so now the industry’s in a slump, but that’s another story). |  |
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Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 23:11 - Jan 3 with 2062 views | Swansea_Blue |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 22:48 - Jan 3 by Durovigutum | When they had model Ys on cheap lease deals in October I thought about it, but the thought of spending money on a company linked to Musk put me off. Two months later I leased a VW ID Buzz instead, which should arrive in time to take me to the Brighton game! |
Model Y is the biggest selling EV last year. I’m surprised by that as I thought it would be their model S, which are everywhere. |  |
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Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 23:31 - Jan 3 with 2007 views | Nutkins_Return |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 20:50 - Jan 3 by Swansea_Blue | They look nice with the open space inside and big screens. And they’re powerful. But I’ve heard that car enthusiasts don’t rate them much. Apparently the build quality is pretty poor. My brother in law is a design engineer and he doesn’t rate them, but he’s super critical of many marques so I take that with a pinch of salt. I’m not sure how much Musk has had to do with the actual cars though - I’d have thought he’s kept at arms length. |
Yes that's just not true unless you are classing 'Car enthusiasts' as literal petrol heads who will stand on that hill no matter what. I work in automotive and as much as I didn't want to like them they are great cars and I now have one. The build quality has got better with every iteration and really only concerns the unseen bits your have to go looking for e.g. inside of an open door. The tech and the drive of them is fantastic. Amazed they got the chassis ride so good so quickly especially for an eclipse which is heavy by nature. BUT yes I will have to think hard next time around as I just can't stand Musk. But as it stands right now it's hard to o elsewhere because it beats the competition on most fronts (pound for pound economy/range and the network takes away any stress of EV for long drives). Weirdest thing about having a Tesla is everyone loves to hate them and Musk gives more ammo (first thing that I would say is legitimate!!!) |  |
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Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 05:17 - Jan 4 with 1799 views | Pendejo |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 23:11 - Jan 3 by Swansea_Blue | Model Y is the biggest selling EV last year. I’m surprised by that as I thought it would be their model S, which are everywhere. |
Model S is LHD only from 2022(?) which ups the Insurance Premium and makes it unsuitable for mini cab licensing. So whilst it may have sold well up to that point, you are less likely to come across newer models. Which is a shame as mine is now 7 years old and 120,000 miles on the clock. Model Y is (relatively) cheap with lots of luggage space, and Teska have a market awareness like Virgin used to. My clients won't accept the Polestar (which is actually a Volvo) but jump thru hoops for Tesla. |  |
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Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 05:58 - Jan 4 with 1773 views | tcblue | There's so many affordable, decent range EVs hitting the market this year I wouldn't buy a Tesla even if Space Karen hadn't cuckooed into the company. |  | |  |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 08:12 - Jan 4 with 1558 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 23:02 - Jan 3 by Swansea_Blue | “Without Tesla we wouldn't be anywhere this far down the road with EVs without them“. I could be wrong, but don’t believe that’s the case. All the UK design houses were doing EV work for the mainstream manufacturers by the time Teslas hit our roads. They got the jump time wise by a bout a year, but manufacturers were moving to EV design in response to govt policy, not Tesla’s progress. (Which hasn’t worked out, as the uptake hasn’t been anywhere near as high as expected, partly due to cost and partly changes to policy under the last govt, so now the industry’s in a slump, but that’s another story). |
Not known for their reliability and build quality- https://www.forbes.com/sites/edgarsten/2023/02/09/tesla-tanks-while-industry-imp He’s obviously going to be in the ear of his lapdog Trump to kill off his Chinese competitors- albeit worth noting that the tariffs brought in by Biden were more punitive than Trump’s previous term. Personally I wouldn’t buy one because as an enthusiast they just don’t appeal - too slow, look like a generic car from Grand Thedt Auto. The insurance is ridiculous too - my car is much quicker, but costs about half as much to insure! I wouldn’t buy anything Chinese either (including Polestar), or particularly MG as it’s state owned. Whilst Musk is a racist bell-end, funding the Chinese state with its direct human rights abuses against the Uyghurs is surely worse? |  | |  |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 08:38 - Jan 4 with 1466 views | GlasgowBlue |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 08:12 - Jan 4 by SuperKieranMcKenna | Not known for their reliability and build quality- https://www.forbes.com/sites/edgarsten/2023/02/09/tesla-tanks-while-industry-imp He’s obviously going to be in the ear of his lapdog Trump to kill off his Chinese competitors- albeit worth noting that the tariffs brought in by Biden were more punitive than Trump’s previous term. Personally I wouldn’t buy one because as an enthusiast they just don’t appeal - too slow, look like a generic car from Grand Thedt Auto. The insurance is ridiculous too - my car is much quicker, but costs about half as much to insure! I wouldn’t buy anything Chinese either (including Polestar), or particularly MG as it’s state owned. Whilst Musk is a racist bell-end, funding the Chinese state with its direct human rights abuses against the Uyghurs is surely worse? |
Being a racist bell end didn’t affect Henry Ford’s sales. Although people are more ethical in their consumer choices these days. |  |
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Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 09:15 - Jan 4 with 1364 views | DJR |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 08:12 - Jan 4 by SuperKieranMcKenna | Not known for their reliability and build quality- https://www.forbes.com/sites/edgarsten/2023/02/09/tesla-tanks-while-industry-imp He’s obviously going to be in the ear of his lapdog Trump to kill off his Chinese competitors- albeit worth noting that the tariffs brought in by Biden were more punitive than Trump’s previous term. Personally I wouldn’t buy one because as an enthusiast they just don’t appeal - too slow, look like a generic car from Grand Thedt Auto. The insurance is ridiculous too - my car is much quicker, but costs about half as much to insure! I wouldn’t buy anything Chinese either (including Polestar), or particularly MG as it’s state owned. Whilst Musk is a racist bell-end, funding the Chinese state with its direct human rights abuses against the Uyghurs is surely worse? |
When it comes to Musk and China, the position would appear to be more nuanced than you suggest, especially given the fact that more than half the Teslas in the world are produced in China. https://news.sky.com/story/elon-musk-could-act-as-middleman-between-china-and-tr https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/27/world/asia/elon-musk-tesla-china.html Indeed, as with Musk recently standing up for US visas for foreign tech people in the face of opposition from many in MAGA (something Trump supported him on), it strikes me that Musk may well be a restraining influence on Trump when it comes to protectionism. [Post edited 4 Jan 9:23]
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Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 09:38 - Jan 4 with 1269 views | DarkBrandon |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 23:11 - Jan 3 by Swansea_Blue | Model Y is the biggest selling EV last year. I’m surprised by that as I thought it would be their model S, which are everywhere. |
I think you mean the model 3, which are everywhere. It took me a while to realise what the 4 model variants of Tesla cars spell out: S3XY He really is a tos… |  | |  |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 09:41 - Jan 4 with 1263 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
Though none of those Chinese built Tesla’s are destined for the US market - they are made domestically to avoid tariffs. Tesla’s are also built in Europe given increasing protectionism from the EU - I don’t have a problem with that there is a responsibility to protect manufacturing jobs in Europe, energy is cleaner, and shipping (from China) is of course very polluting. Not only that but it’s not a level playing field given the lower wages and poor workers rights in China. In China his sales have been squeezed by local manufacturers such as BYD. There may be short supply chain issue for Teslain the US but given the increasing protectionism ramped up by Biden (who is also incredibly bearish on China) the more pragmatic businesses have looked to onshore their supply chains or look for alternative sources:- https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-69004520.amp |  | |  |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 10:11 - Jan 4 with 1173 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
Any decent human beings on here own a Tesla? on 08:38 - Jan 4 by GlasgowBlue | Being a racist bell end didn’t affect Henry Ford’s sales. Although people are more ethical in their consumer choices these days. |
Was Henry Ford racist? I thought he said "Any color as long as it's black!" Which was quite progressive for a white American back then! |  | |  |
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