State Visit 09:33 - Jan 31 with 2081 views | BlueNomad | There are suggestions that Trump will be invited for a state visit. It is one thing to come here for business but surely we shouldn’t be inviting this monster with this courtesy/ honour. Last time he showed disrespect to the Queen and is just associated with neo-fascism and all that entails. Views? |  | | |  |
State Visit on 09:37 - Jan 31 with 1753 views | blueasfook | Keir Starmer being the man of strong principles that he is, has already called him to kiss his ass. So it seems highly likely the red carpet will be rolled out for him yes. |  |
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State Visit on 09:43 - Jan 31 with 1688 views | lowhouseblue | he's the president of the usa and the whole of the western world is striving desperately to find common ground on defence, ukraine, russia, trade, etc etc and to avoid american isolationism and unpredictability. without the usa as an ally the world becomes even scarier for the uk and europe. that's pretty obvious isn't it. |  |
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State Visit on 09:44 - Jan 31 with 1706 views | redrickstuhaart |
State Visit on 09:37 - Jan 31 by blueasfook | Keir Starmer being the man of strong principles that he is, has already called him to kiss his ass. So it seems highly likely the red carpet will be rolled out for him yes. |
Better to have influence and to try to protect our interests, as distasteful as it is |  | |  |
State Visit on 09:48 - Jan 31 with 1657 views | GlasgowBlue |
State Visit on 09:37 - Jan 31 by blueasfook | Keir Starmer being the man of strong principles that he is, has already called him to kiss his ass. So it seems highly likely the red carpet will be rolled out for him yes. |
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State Visit on 09:49 - Jan 31 with 1649 views | BrandonsBlues | If it keeps him happy for a little while. |  | |  |
State Visit on 09:55 - Jan 31 with 1578 views | lowhouseblue |
State Visit on 09:48 - Jan 31 by GlasgowBlue | Whatever leads you to that conclusion? |
well yes actually being the uk's ambassador in washington is much much more important that peter mandelson's ego. (a response to the tweet rather than you). |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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State Visit on 10:02 - Jan 31 with 1541 views | bsw72 | Keep your friends close and your enemies closer - whether it is palatable or not, having him onside is preferential. |  | |  |
State Visit on 10:03 - Jan 31 with 1537 views | J2BLUE | Trump likes the royals. Time to put that soft power to good use. |  |
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State Visit on 10:08 - Jan 31 with 1503 views | MattinLondon | Unfortunately the world is full of egotistical dictators or wannabe dictators - on paper, it’ll be great if the PM said ‘no’ and called Trump a ‘vile thin skinned prick’ but that wouldn’t be good for business. The same people that criticise the PM for a lack of principles will also be critical of him if he allowed his personal feelings to cloud what’s good for the country. Have all previous US Presidents been given a state visit? |  | |  |
State Visit on 10:10 - Jan 31 with 1486 views | tcblue | Honestly ignore the faf Wotsit for four years (if he makes it that long) and just watch with popcorn. The US isn't the global force it used to be, apparently we can live perfectly fine not being part of the EU, which was (is) our biggest trade partner, so this should be easy enough. |  | |  |
State Visit on 10:14 - Jan 31 with 1440 views | leitrimblue |
State Visit on 10:03 - Jan 31 by J2BLUE | Trump likes the royals. Time to put that soft power to good use. |
Could we give him Andrew? |  | |  |
State Visit on 10:17 - Jan 31 with 1398 views | blueasfook |
State Visit on 10:14 - Jan 31 by leitrimblue | Could we give him Andrew? |
I dare say they've probably already met a few times on Epstein's island |  |
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State Visit on 10:27 - Jan 31 with 1296 views | GlasgowBlue |
State Visit on 09:55 - Jan 31 by lowhouseblue | well yes actually being the uk's ambassador in washington is much much more important that peter mandelson's ego. (a response to the tweet rather than you). |
Some of the past comments about Trump from people in government at a time when they were in opposition are coming to bite them in the bum. Lammy springs to mind. He’s had to do a complete mea culpa. Lammy is gaffe prone anyway but Mandelson should have known better. He’s an experienced operator. A salutary lesson that you may have to do business with people you don’t like when in power. |  |
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State Visit on 10:30 - Jan 31 with 1266 views | blueasfook |
State Visit on 10:27 - Jan 31 by GlasgowBlue | Some of the past comments about Trump from people in government at a time when they were in opposition are coming to bite them in the bum. Lammy springs to mind. He’s had to do a complete mea culpa. Lammy is gaffe prone anyway but Mandelson should have known better. He’s an experienced operator. A salutary lesson that you may have to do business with people you don’t like when in power. |
I bet they'll put a gag on Sir StreetCrime too to avoid conflict. |  |
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State Visit on 10:32 - Jan 31 with 1247 views | Horsham | I’d opposed to it on the basis that he’s scum and so is anyone that supports him. |  | |  |
State Visit on 10:35 - Jan 31 with 1211 views | Zx1988 |
State Visit on 09:48 - Jan 31 by GlasgowBlue | Whatever leads you to that conclusion? |
I didn't realise, until it was mentioned the other week, that the US has a veto on ambassadorial appointments. Is this the case for all diplomatic roles in most countries, or is this another wonderful facet of the 'Special Relationship'? |  |
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State Visit on 10:38 - Jan 31 with 1186 views | Tangledupin_Blue |
State Visit on 09:48 - Jan 31 by GlasgowBlue | Whatever leads you to that conclusion? |
Read it carefully... Mandy seems to be saying that Trump has respect for him, not the other way round. Edit: A Freudian slip? Or not? [Post edited 31 Jan 10:40]
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State Visit on 10:39 - Jan 31 with 1178 views | lowhouseblue |
State Visit on 10:27 - Jan 31 by GlasgowBlue | Some of the past comments about Trump from people in government at a time when they were in opposition are coming to bite them in the bum. Lammy springs to mind. He’s had to do a complete mea culpa. Lammy is gaffe prone anyway but Mandelson should have known better. He’s an experienced operator. A salutary lesson that you may have to do business with people you don’t like when in power. |
no one believed he'd be elected the first time and then everyone thought he was finished after jan 2021. they all thought that slagging off trump was a way of pleasing their supporters and came without a cost. what it shows is that these people don't have much political imagination and also what an absolutely remarkable car crash enabling him to get back after 2021 has been. calling him a fascist, demonising him, and persuing multiple rather wishful prosecutions resurrected someone who was politically dead. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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State Visit on 11:59 - Jan 31 with 1010 views | redrickstuhaart |
State Visit on 10:39 - Jan 31 by lowhouseblue | no one believed he'd be elected the first time and then everyone thought he was finished after jan 2021. they all thought that slagging off trump was a way of pleasing their supporters and came without a cost. what it shows is that these people don't have much political imagination and also what an absolutely remarkable car crash enabling him to get back after 2021 has been. calling him a fascist, demonising him, and persuing multiple rather wishful prosecutions resurrected someone who was politically dead. |
The prosecutions were plainly well founded. |  | |  |
State Visit on 12:09 - Jan 31 with 987 views | BlueBadger |
State Visit on 10:39 - Jan 31 by lowhouseblue | no one believed he'd be elected the first time and then everyone thought he was finished after jan 2021. they all thought that slagging off trump was a way of pleasing their supporters and came without a cost. what it shows is that these people don't have much political imagination and also what an absolutely remarkable car crash enabling him to get back after 2021 has been. calling him a fascist, demonising him, and persuing multiple rather wishful prosecutions resurrected someone who was politically dead. |
The 'multiple rather wishful prosecutions' which resulted in 32 convictions? [Post edited 31 Jan 13:13]
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State Visit on 13:42 - Jan 31 with 755 views | lowhouseblue |
State Visit on 12:09 - Jan 31 by BlueBadger | The 'multiple rather wishful prosecutions' which resulted in 32 convictions? [Post edited 31 Jan 13:13]
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and convinced everyone who was a rabid democrat that the courts had been politicised. he was politically dead in the water after jan 2021 and the court cases made him a martyr and reinforced him as a political outsider and warrior against the washington elite. convicting him for bad book keeping provided him with a platform and rallying cry to his former supporters. they should have stuck to a single legal process relating exclusively to his role in 6th jan. |  |
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State Visit on 13:45 - Jan 31 with 732 views | redrickstuhaart |
State Visit on 13:42 - Jan 31 by lowhouseblue | and convinced everyone who was a rabid democrat that the courts had been politicised. he was politically dead in the water after jan 2021 and the court cases made him a martyr and reinforced him as a political outsider and warrior against the washington elite. convicting him for bad book keeping provided him with a platform and rallying cry to his former supporters. they should have stuck to a single legal process relating exclusively to his role in 6th jan. |
Arr you for real? It wasnt bad bookeeping... It was purposely disguising a payment to a porn actress with the intention or expectation of electoral benefit. |  | |  |
State Visit on 13:46 - Jan 31 with 719 views | iamatractorboy |
State Visit on 11:59 - Jan 31 by redrickstuhaart | The prosecutions were plainly well founded. |
Exactly. He's only got away with a lot of it precisely because he's been elected again. The false electors thing in Georgia as an example. |  | |  |
State Visit on 13:48 - Jan 31 with 688 views | EdwardStone |
State Visit on 13:42 - Jan 31 by lowhouseblue | and convinced everyone who was a rabid democrat that the courts had been politicised. he was politically dead in the water after jan 2021 and the court cases made him a martyr and reinforced him as a political outsider and warrior against the washington elite. convicting him for bad book keeping provided him with a platform and rallying cry to his former supporters. they should have stuck to a single legal process relating exclusively to his role in 6th jan. |
Absolutely unforgivable how the Justice Dept handled this whole sorry affair And beyond belief that the giant orange baboon could organise an insurrection, escape without any punishment and still be in a position to sweep in to White House a few years later Interesting times lie ahead |  | |  |
State Visit on 13:48 - Jan 31 with 686 views | Swansea_Blue | As he’s a foreign criminal, we can decline entry can’t we? |  |
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