| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war 07:47 - Feb 19 with 5655 views | reusersfreekicks |
Just a bad horrible evil bloke.
The western alliance has gone. Europe needs to recognise that.
Scary times for us and coming generations.
I do wonder if the average American realises what's going on. |  | | |  |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:13 - Feb 19 with 1512 views | soupytwist |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 08:51 - Feb 19 by Guthrum |
If you walk into a room with Sergey Lavrov, you'd better have your wits about you. A very canny and experienced diplomat.
Don't think Rubio is that good. Nor does he have the experience outside Latin America.
For the "average American" (insofar as such a thing exists), the rest of the world is physically a long way away, its apparent main impact being upon loss of local jobs and costing money which could be spent on their sometimes struggling communities. Not to mention taxation which is then being sent abroad. |
Even from the short clips of Lavrov and Rubio that were on the news yesterday it was obvious that there was only going to be one winner between them.
Lavrov must have been licking his lips going into that meeting. |  | | |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:18 - Feb 19 with 1478 views | lowhouseblue |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:05 - Feb 19 by SaleAway |
Someone shared this with me on another Social channel:
It was always going to end like this.
You could smell it in the air—something rancid, like a well-done steak doused in ketchup, left to rot under a Florida sun. It wasn’t just the cheap cologne of bad deals or the faint musk of an oligarch’s overstuffed yacht. No, this was the reek of betrayal, marinated in stupidity, grilled over a bonfire of American credibility.
The fix was in. The con had reached its inevitable punchline. And somewhere in Moscow, Vladimir Putin was sipping a vodka, toasting Donald Trump—the gift that keeps on giving.
Ukraine was doomed the second Trump got his bloated carcass back into the Oval Office. The man is allergic to principles. Diplomacy, in his mind, is just a real estate hustle with nuclear warheads. So when he started talking about Ukraine like a used-car salesman trying to unload a lemon—maybe it’s Russian, maybe it’s not, who knows?—it was clear that Zelenskyy was about to get stiffed harder than a waitress at Mar-a-Lago.
Then came Pete Hegseth, the walking fever dream of a Fox News segment, now Trump’s Defense Secretary. He stepped up to a NATO meeting and announced what everyone had feared but few could believe: a return to Ukraine’s 2014 borders was unrealistic.
Translated from Trump-speak, this meant Ukraine was being cut loose. Good luck against the Russian war machine. The Budapest Memorandum, the so-called security guarantee that convinced Ukraine to give up its nukes back in 1994, might as well have been printed on a cocktail napkin. Ukraine had cashed in its chips decades ago, and now the casino was being repossessed by the Russian mob.
You had to admire it. The patience. The long con.
Vladimir Putin didn’t have to do a damn thing. He just sat back and waited while America elected the one guy who would do the job for him.
Back in 2014, when he first carved off Crimea like a chunk of stale bread, the world put up some weak-kneed resistance. A few sanctions. Some sternly worded statements. But it was Obama, and at least he had the decency to look uncomfortable about it.
Then Trump came along, purring like a cat that just found a pile of Russian rubles in his litter box. Suddenly, Crimea wasn’t an invasion—it was a territorial dispute. Sanctions weren’t a punishment—they were unfair to Russia.
Now the orange wrecking ball is back in charge, and the Kremlin can barely contain its glee. The plan is simple. Trump pulls the U.S. out of the Ukraine fight. Europe is left holding the bag. Russia watches and waits. Maybe it takes a year. Maybe five. But Ukraine will fall, piece by piece, and Trump won’t lift a finger to stop it.
The best part is that he gets to pretend he’s some kind of peacemaker while he hands over Ukraine like a crooked referee fixing a boxing match. He just wants people to stop dying, he says, as he shoves Zelenskyy into the ring with a much bigger opponent and takes away his gloves.
This isn’t just about Ukraine. This is a giant neon sign flashing in every dictator’s capital from Beijing to Tehran. The United States doesn’t keep its promises. The 1994 Budapest Memorandum isn’t just Ukraine’s problem anymore. It’s a message to every country that ever thought about trusting America. Taiwan better start stockpiling missiles, because if China makes a move, guess who won’t be showing up. The Baltics should get used to the sound of Russian tanks, because Trump already told NATO he might not come to their defense. Any country thinking about disarming should forget it. If Ukraine had kept those nukes, they wouldn’t be in this mess.
The real lesson here isn’t about war or peace—it’s about power. Trump has done what no American president has ever done before: made nuclear weapons look like a good investment. Imagine you’re a leader in some unstable region, watching Ukraine get gutted in real-time. The takeaway is simple. If you give up your nukes, you get invaded. If you keep them, no one touches you.
So here we are. Trump is cuddling up to Putin, NATO is on life support, and Ukraine is dangling over the abyss, abandoned by the very country that once swore to protect it.
Meanwhile, in Moscow, the vodka is flowing, the caviar is fresh, and the laughter is loud.
Putin didn’t just win Ukraine. He won the whole damn argument.
What happens next is predictable. Trump will spend the next year patting himself on the back for ending the war while Ukraine bleeds out in slow motion. Maybe he’ll even try to cut some Trump Tower Moscow deal now that he’s free to negotiate with his good friend Vladimir.
Meanwhile, the rest of the world watches, horrified, as the post-World War II order crumbles into dust.
America used to be the country that stood for something.
Now it stands for nothing.
The wolves are circling. And Trump, in all his bloated, self-obsessed glory, just handed them the keys to the henhouse.
Sleep tight, world. The lunatics are back in charge. |
so how are we going to fund getting defence spending back to 1970s levels? europe still has £300bn in seised russian assets - couldn't we start with those? |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:27 - Feb 19 with 1445 views | iamatractorboy |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:05 - Feb 19 by SaleAway |
Someone shared this with me on another Social channel:
It was always going to end like this.
You could smell it in the air—something rancid, like a well-done steak doused in ketchup, left to rot under a Florida sun. It wasn’t just the cheap cologne of bad deals or the faint musk of an oligarch’s overstuffed yacht. No, this was the reek of betrayal, marinated in stupidity, grilled over a bonfire of American credibility.
The fix was in. The con had reached its inevitable punchline. And somewhere in Moscow, Vladimir Putin was sipping a vodka, toasting Donald Trump—the gift that keeps on giving.
Ukraine was doomed the second Trump got his bloated carcass back into the Oval Office. The man is allergic to principles. Diplomacy, in his mind, is just a real estate hustle with nuclear warheads. So when he started talking about Ukraine like a used-car salesman trying to unload a lemon—maybe it’s Russian, maybe it’s not, who knows?—it was clear that Zelenskyy was about to get stiffed harder than a waitress at Mar-a-Lago.
Then came Pete Hegseth, the walking fever dream of a Fox News segment, now Trump’s Defense Secretary. He stepped up to a NATO meeting and announced what everyone had feared but few could believe: a return to Ukraine’s 2014 borders was unrealistic.
Translated from Trump-speak, this meant Ukraine was being cut loose. Good luck against the Russian war machine. The Budapest Memorandum, the so-called security guarantee that convinced Ukraine to give up its nukes back in 1994, might as well have been printed on a cocktail napkin. Ukraine had cashed in its chips decades ago, and now the casino was being repossessed by the Russian mob.
You had to admire it. The patience. The long con.
Vladimir Putin didn’t have to do a damn thing. He just sat back and waited while America elected the one guy who would do the job for him.
Back in 2014, when he first carved off Crimea like a chunk of stale bread, the world put up some weak-kneed resistance. A few sanctions. Some sternly worded statements. But it was Obama, and at least he had the decency to look uncomfortable about it.
Then Trump came along, purring like a cat that just found a pile of Russian rubles in his litter box. Suddenly, Crimea wasn’t an invasion—it was a territorial dispute. Sanctions weren’t a punishment—they were unfair to Russia.
Now the orange wrecking ball is back in charge, and the Kremlin can barely contain its glee. The plan is simple. Trump pulls the U.S. out of the Ukraine fight. Europe is left holding the bag. Russia watches and waits. Maybe it takes a year. Maybe five. But Ukraine will fall, piece by piece, and Trump won’t lift a finger to stop it.
The best part is that he gets to pretend he’s some kind of peacemaker while he hands over Ukraine like a crooked referee fixing a boxing match. He just wants people to stop dying, he says, as he shoves Zelenskyy into the ring with a much bigger opponent and takes away his gloves.
This isn’t just about Ukraine. This is a giant neon sign flashing in every dictator’s capital from Beijing to Tehran. The United States doesn’t keep its promises. The 1994 Budapest Memorandum isn’t just Ukraine’s problem anymore. It’s a message to every country that ever thought about trusting America. Taiwan better start stockpiling missiles, because if China makes a move, guess who won’t be showing up. The Baltics should get used to the sound of Russian tanks, because Trump already told NATO he might not come to their defense. Any country thinking about disarming should forget it. If Ukraine had kept those nukes, they wouldn’t be in this mess.
The real lesson here isn’t about war or peace—it’s about power. Trump has done what no American president has ever done before: made nuclear weapons look like a good investment. Imagine you’re a leader in some unstable region, watching Ukraine get gutted in real-time. The takeaway is simple. If you give up your nukes, you get invaded. If you keep them, no one touches you.
So here we are. Trump is cuddling up to Putin, NATO is on life support, and Ukraine is dangling over the abyss, abandoned by the very country that once swore to protect it.
Meanwhile, in Moscow, the vodka is flowing, the caviar is fresh, and the laughter is loud.
Putin didn’t just win Ukraine. He won the whole damn argument.
What happens next is predictable. Trump will spend the next year patting himself on the back for ending the war while Ukraine bleeds out in slow motion. Maybe he’ll even try to cut some Trump Tower Moscow deal now that he’s free to negotiate with his good friend Vladimir.
Meanwhile, the rest of the world watches, horrified, as the post-World War II order crumbles into dust.
America used to be the country that stood for something.
Now it stands for nothing.
The wolves are circling. And Trump, in all his bloated, self-obsessed glory, just handed them the keys to the henhouse.
Sleep tight, world. The lunatics are back in charge. |
Excellent article. The only thing I'd disagree with is that 'Putin didn't have to do anything'. He likely interfered in the 2016 (and presumably 2024) election. To help get his stooge, sorry candidate, in place. Amazing what a bit of kompromat and a bot farm or two will do (allegedly). |  | | |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:29 - Feb 19 with 1434 views | Ryorry |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:05 - Feb 19 by SaleAway |
Someone shared this with me on another Social channel:
It was always going to end like this.
You could smell it in the air—something rancid, like a well-done steak doused in ketchup, left to rot under a Florida sun. It wasn’t just the cheap cologne of bad deals or the faint musk of an oligarch’s overstuffed yacht. No, this was the reek of betrayal, marinated in stupidity, grilled over a bonfire of American credibility.
The fix was in. The con had reached its inevitable punchline. And somewhere in Moscow, Vladimir Putin was sipping a vodka, toasting Donald Trump—the gift that keeps on giving.
Ukraine was doomed the second Trump got his bloated carcass back into the Oval Office. The man is allergic to principles. Diplomacy, in his mind, is just a real estate hustle with nuclear warheads. So when he started talking about Ukraine like a used-car salesman trying to unload a lemon—maybe it’s Russian, maybe it’s not, who knows?—it was clear that Zelenskyy was about to get stiffed harder than a waitress at Mar-a-Lago.
Then came Pete Hegseth, the walking fever dream of a Fox News segment, now Trump’s Defense Secretary. He stepped up to a NATO meeting and announced what everyone had feared but few could believe: a return to Ukraine’s 2014 borders was unrealistic.
Translated from Trump-speak, this meant Ukraine was being cut loose. Good luck against the Russian war machine. The Budapest Memorandum, the so-called security guarantee that convinced Ukraine to give up its nukes back in 1994, might as well have been printed on a cocktail napkin. Ukraine had cashed in its chips decades ago, and now the casino was being repossessed by the Russian mob.
You had to admire it. The patience. The long con.
Vladimir Putin didn’t have to do a damn thing. He just sat back and waited while America elected the one guy who would do the job for him.
Back in 2014, when he first carved off Crimea like a chunk of stale bread, the world put up some weak-kneed resistance. A few sanctions. Some sternly worded statements. But it was Obama, and at least he had the decency to look uncomfortable about it.
Then Trump came along, purring like a cat that just found a pile of Russian rubles in his litter box. Suddenly, Crimea wasn’t an invasion—it was a territorial dispute. Sanctions weren’t a punishment—they were unfair to Russia.
Now the orange wrecking ball is back in charge, and the Kremlin can barely contain its glee. The plan is simple. Trump pulls the U.S. out of the Ukraine fight. Europe is left holding the bag. Russia watches and waits. Maybe it takes a year. Maybe five. But Ukraine will fall, piece by piece, and Trump won’t lift a finger to stop it.
The best part is that he gets to pretend he’s some kind of peacemaker while he hands over Ukraine like a crooked referee fixing a boxing match. He just wants people to stop dying, he says, as he shoves Zelenskyy into the ring with a much bigger opponent and takes away his gloves.
This isn’t just about Ukraine. This is a giant neon sign flashing in every dictator’s capital from Beijing to Tehran. The United States doesn’t keep its promises. The 1994 Budapest Memorandum isn’t just Ukraine’s problem anymore. It’s a message to every country that ever thought about trusting America. Taiwan better start stockpiling missiles, because if China makes a move, guess who won’t be showing up. The Baltics should get used to the sound of Russian tanks, because Trump already told NATO he might not come to their defense. Any country thinking about disarming should forget it. If Ukraine had kept those nukes, they wouldn’t be in this mess.
The real lesson here isn’t about war or peace—it’s about power. Trump has done what no American president has ever done before: made nuclear weapons look like a good investment. Imagine you’re a leader in some unstable region, watching Ukraine get gutted in real-time. The takeaway is simple. If you give up your nukes, you get invaded. If you keep them, no one touches you.
So here we are. Trump is cuddling up to Putin, NATO is on life support, and Ukraine is dangling over the abyss, abandoned by the very country that once swore to protect it.
Meanwhile, in Moscow, the vodka is flowing, the caviar is fresh, and the laughter is loud.
Putin didn’t just win Ukraine. He won the whole damn argument.
What happens next is predictable. Trump will spend the next year patting himself on the back for ending the war while Ukraine bleeds out in slow motion. Maybe he’ll even try to cut some Trump Tower Moscow deal now that he’s free to negotiate with his good friend Vladimir.
Meanwhile, the rest of the world watches, horrified, as the post-World War II order crumbles into dust.
America used to be the country that stood for something.
Now it stands for nothing.
The wolves are circling. And Trump, in all his bloated, self-obsessed glory, just handed them the keys to the henhouse.
Sleep tight, world. The lunatics are back in charge. |
Was going to start a thread yesterday asking if T.rump is either a gross and corrupt monster, clinically insane, or started out as the first of those & then developed the second also. But this thread, and particularly this post of yours, are a far superior and better-filled version of that!
T.rump will need to surround himself with a hugely increased and better trained security detail, the target on his back must now be bigger than ever. Or just keep taking kool-aid when some of his staff develop Covid, which I believe is taking off again in spread over there. |  |
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| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:30 - Feb 19 with 1420 views | soupytwist |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:18 - Feb 19 by lowhouseblue |
so how are we going to fund getting defence spending back to 1970s levels? europe still has £300bn in seised russian assets - couldn't we start with those? |
We could give some of it to the Ukrainians to spend on big guns and stuff.
I kind of assumed that the seized money would be available to spend on Ukraine's rebuilding but if all that would happen would be to build new infrastructure etc. that becomes de-facto Russian property in a few years time then maybe not. | | | |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:31 - Feb 19 with 1406 views | Churchman |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:18 - Feb 19 by lowhouseblue |
so how are we going to fund getting defence spending back to 1970s levels? europe still has £300bn in seised russian assets - couldn't we start with those? |
Income tax. I don’t like it or want it, but we have to start arming ourselves now and investing in our defence industries. If that means partnerships with other countries on weapons, great (Jaguar, Tornado, Eurofighter - not the first time). There’s even export potential in them.
Drone technologies and new weapons - when Ukraine falls I’d get out as many of the clever people there that have been producing this stuff along with their families. We have some clever people in this country and in Europe too. Time to use them.
It frustrates the hell out of me because there is too much poverty in the world to wastes time on this, but there is no choice. It’s no different to 1939. |  | | |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:31 - Feb 19 with 1388 views | lowhouseblue |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:30 - Feb 19 by soupytwist |
We could give some of it to the Ukrainians to spend on big guns and stuff.
I kind of assumed that the seized money would be available to spend on Ukraine's rebuilding but if all that would happen would be to build new infrastructure etc. that becomes de-facto Russian property in a few years time then maybe not. |
perhaps if we promised now to spend it on american arms, built in american factories, to send to ukraine trump would see things differently. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:33 - Feb 19 with 1364 views | iamatractorboy |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:29 - Feb 19 by Ryorry |
Was going to start a thread yesterday asking if T.rump is either a gross and corrupt monster, clinically insane, or started out as the first of those & then developed the second also. But this thread, and particularly this post of yours, are a far superior and better-filled version of that!
T.rump will need to surround himself with a hugely increased and better trained security detail, the target on his back must now be bigger than ever. Or just keep taking kool-aid when some of his staff develop Covid, which I believe is taking off again in spread over there. |
I wouldn't put it past him to cancel Biden's and Obama's SS provision (and GWB's and Clinton's?) and make them protect him instead. | | | |
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| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:35 - Feb 19 with 1345 views | StokieBlue |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:18 - Feb 19 by lowhouseblue |
so how are we going to fund getting defence spending back to 1970s levels? europe still has £300bn in seised russian assets - couldn't we start with those? |
Do we need to?
Russia has shown itself to be pretty ineffective at a war involving conventional weapons. Europe should have more than enough to counter any conventional threats assuming they are willing to actually step in if an EU or NATO member is attacked.
The UK has planes and troops in Estonia, will they be told to act against any Russian incursion or will they be told to step aside?
If it goes nuclear which seems highly unlikely then increased spending on conventional arms is irrelevant anyway.
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| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:35 - Feb 19 with 1340 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:31 - Feb 19 by lowhouseblue |
perhaps if we promised now to spend it on american arms, built in american factories, to send to ukraine trump would see things differently. |
I doubt it, that would be chicken feed compared to the economic impact of the geopolitical fallout from a Russian annex of Ukraine. Not that Trump can see the bigger picture, this is all about his ego and selling a ‘win’. In reality he’s getting royally shafted. | | | |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:39 - Feb 19 with 1312 views | bluejacko |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:31 - Feb 19 by lowhouseblue |
perhaps if we promised now to spend it on american arms, built in american factories, to send to ukraine trump would see things differently. |
Well that’s what’s been happening,old American stuff going to Ukraine,the money allocated is then spent renewing stockpiles with new weapons! Good for the arms companies,workers and the American economy!
New info has come out about the supposedly missing $100b ,apparently the cost of the new weapons was applied to the older weapons being supplied instead of the actual worth of the old stock. Bean counters eh🙄 | | | |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:40 - Feb 19 with 1313 views | Guthrum |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 09:24 - Feb 19 by Swansea_Blue |
I can imagine that these cuts that Musk is relentlessly pursuing will end up hitting ordinary folk in the pocket. If we ever do, that’s when we’ll see the tide turn against Trump. One thing we saw here under a useless, reckless populist (Johnson, but Truss would also qualify) was that when the tide does turn it does so very quickly. Johnson’s support crashed through the floor in no time. Maybe that’s wishful thinking in this case though. Who knows what the MAGA bunch are thinking/capable of. |
Thing is, unlike the UK, there is no mechanism for deposing a useless, damaging and/or unpopular leader until the end of their four-year term.
Impeachment requires an actual crime to have been committed and is, in any case, at the whim of Congress. The Republican Party cannot mount a palace coup as Johnson/Truss/Sunak did. The President is elected as an individual, not the party leader. There is no such thing as a vote of no confidence, even if they could get one passed.
They - and we - are stuck with Trump for four years, unless he becomes too ill, in which case he's merely swapped with Vance.
Which is, perhaps, why there have been four times as many assassinations of US Presidents (several other attempts), than there have been of British Prime ministers* over the same time period.
* And that was misguidedly over a personal financial matter, not a political one. |  |
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| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:45 - Feb 19 with 1279 views | homer_123 |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:18 - Feb 19 by lowhouseblue |
so how are we going to fund getting defence spending back to 1970s levels? europe still has £300bn in seised russian assets - couldn't we start with those? |
The wider question is how long would it now take to build anything meaningful and substantial back up? |  |
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| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:48 - Feb 19 with 1255 views | Guthrum |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:31 - Feb 19 by lowhouseblue |
perhaps if we promised now to spend it on american arms, built in american factories, to send to ukraine trump would see things differently. |
Trump has already said that would be ok by him. But Europe would have to fund it and I doubt we'd get a discount. | |
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| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:50 - Feb 19 with 1232 views | EdwardStone |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:27 - Feb 19 by iamatractorboy |
Excellent article. The only thing I'd disagree with is that 'Putin didn't have to do anything'. He likely interfered in the 2016 (and presumably 2024) election. To help get his stooge, sorry candidate, in place. Amazing what a bit of kompromat and a bot farm or two will do (allegedly). |
Something I find curious
Trump was absolutely full of his "stolen election" guff in 2020 eeven before the first vote had been cast
Yet in 2024.... barely a peep. In fact he went on to declare that the election was free and fair
So what was different last year from 5 years ago?
What did the giant orange man-baby know about the election that enabled him to declare it fair?
I'm not a great one for Conspiracy Theories.... but..... |  | | |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:53 - Feb 19 with 1192 views | lowhouseblue |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:45 - Feb 19 by homer_123 |
The wider question is how long would it now take to build anything meaningful and substantial back up? |
it sounds like the question: when's the best time to plant a tree. answer: 10 years ago. we are where we are, but we need now to get on with it. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:59 - Feb 19 with 1133 views | homer_123 |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:53 - Feb 19 by lowhouseblue |
it sounds like the question: when's the best time to plant a tree. answer: 10 years ago. we are where we are, but we need now to get on with it. |
Agreed, though that investment needs to be as much 'tech' related than anything. | |
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| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 11:02 - Feb 19 with 1104 views | iamatractorboy |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:50 - Feb 19 by EdwardStone |
Something I find curious
Trump was absolutely full of his "stolen election" guff in 2020 eeven before the first vote had been cast
Yet in 2024.... barely a peep. In fact he went on to declare that the election was free and fair
So what was different last year from 5 years ago?
What did the giant orange man-baby know about the election that enabled him to declare it fair?
I'm not a great one for Conspiracy Theories.... but..... |
Oh he was priming his supporters months before the 2020 election; amazing what the power of suggestion can do. And lo and behold, a ready made excuse when he lost. He didn't really need to repeat this for 2024 as it was already on the Trump cult's hive mind; 'if we lose it's because the other side cheated'. But yes, it's funny how it's definitely legit this time, how else could it be if he won... | | | |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 11:09 - Feb 19 with 1064 views | Guthrum |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:53 - Feb 19 by lowhouseblue |
it sounds like the question: when's the best time to plant a tree. answer: 10 years ago. we are where we are, but we need now to get on with it. |
Military technology is an odd thing. Technology and tactics can change very quickly, but weapon systems take so long to develop, they may well be obsolete before even coming into service.
The Eurofighter Typhoon being a modern example. First conceived in the early 1970s as a Cold War maneuverable, supersonic, air superiority fighter, it emerged into a post-Soviet world where stealth was the coming technology and pilotless drones (including semi-automation) only just over the horizon. With high dash speeds no longer that important. | |
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| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 11:21 - Feb 19 with 1006 views | mellowblue |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 09:16 - Feb 19 by Guthrum |
That's always been how Trump operates.
He's like the 19th century idea of an eastern potentate - acting on a whim, capriciously influenced by those around him and always right (even if he's demonstrably not, or it contradicts what he may have said before). |
Trump knows what endgame he wants, but just doesn't care about the bit in the middle, the pathway; and is happy to ride roughshod over anything in the way, no matter any collateral damage done. Remarkable. | | | |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 11:22 - Feb 19 with 1000 views | lowhouseblue |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 11:09 - Feb 19 by Guthrum |
Military technology is an odd thing. Technology and tactics can change very quickly, but weapon systems take so long to develop, they may well be obsolete before even coming into service.
The Eurofighter Typhoon being a modern example. First conceived in the early 1970s as a Cold War maneuverable, supersonic, air superiority fighter, it emerged into a post-Soviet world where stealth was the coming technology and pilotless drones (including semi-automation) only just over the horizon. With high dash speeds no longer that important. |
well, if the ukraine war has given us nothing else, it really ought to have refined defence strategies and shown in what direction we need to be pushing technology. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 11:29 - Feb 19 with 949 views | bsw72 |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 09:44 - Feb 19 by Guthrum |
Indeed. Altho I had been told, was still shocked at the hectoring, you-must-believe-this tone of US media. And that was CNN. Fox is only a mirror of that. |
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| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 11:34 - Feb 19 with 901 views | positivity |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 11:29 - Feb 19 by bsw72 |
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assuming that gb news fell off the screen? | |
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| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 11:39 - Feb 19 with 858 views | bluejacko |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 10:35 - Feb 19 by StokieBlue |
Do we need to?
Russia has shown itself to be pretty ineffective at a war involving conventional weapons. Europe should have more than enough to counter any conventional threats assuming they are willing to actually step in if an EU or NATO member is attacked.
The UK has planes and troops in Estonia, will they be told to act against any Russian incursion or will they be told to step aside?
If it goes nuclear which seems highly unlikely then increased spending on conventional arms is irrelevant anyway.
SB |
The BG is under NATO command so unless we want to violate our treaty obligations they will fight!
After all that is what they are there for to bolster Estonia defences! | | | |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 11:51 - Feb 19 with 801 views | Guthrum |
| Trump effectively blaming Ukraine for the war on 11:22 - Feb 19 by lowhouseblue |
well, if the ukraine war has given us nothing else, it really ought to have refined defence strategies and shown in what direction we need to be pushing technology. |
Problem being that, in a decade's time (or more) when the new systems are coming on line, things may have changed again.
Wartime breeds a lot of innovation and adaptation - bodging, even - which is what we're seeing in Ukraine with hand-held anti-tank weapons taped to commercial drones. But for fully-fledged, purpose-designed new equipment in peacetime, the development and testing are a lot slower. | |
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