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Germany divided (again) 21:05 - Feb 24 with 789 viewsZx1988

Looking over the results from yesterday's Bundestag election, I came across this rather striking map, illustrating which party won the party vote in each constituency:



All but two of the AFD's party vote wins came in the former east, with the only holdouts east of the old inner-German border being in Leipzig South, and the majority of former East Berlin, all of whom voted for Die Linke, and Potsdam who went CDU.

The two Western wins were in Gelsenkirchen and Kaiserslautern, both of which are experiencing the after-effects of post-industrial decline.

It all makes for rather interesting interpretation and analysis, especially with the former East having lurched from the Far Left to the Far Right in a little over thirty years.

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Germany divided (again) on 22:09 - Feb 24 with 707 viewsLord_Lucan

That isn't a massive lurch.

Extremists are extremists.

I see little difference in them and have no time for either.

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Germany divided (again) on 22:32 - Feb 24 with 645 viewsWeWereZombies

Was the DDR (East Germany) far left or totalitarian ? One of the firm beliefs of late period Gorbachev was that Stalin and the post Stalin crowd were not socialist but totalitarian, and that label fitted Putin as well. Given the AfD's sympathies for Moscow this map is revealing rather than surprising in my eyes.

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Germany divided (again) on 22:44 - Feb 24 with 603 viewsZx1988

Germany divided (again) on 22:32 - Feb 24 by WeWereZombies

Was the DDR (East Germany) far left or totalitarian ? One of the firm beliefs of late period Gorbachev was that Stalin and the post Stalin crowd were not socialist but totalitarian, and that label fitted Putin as well. Given the AfD's sympathies for Moscow this map is revealing rather than surprising in my eyes.


The political history of the old East German Länder post-1990 is quite interesting. There was a real rejection of the former ways in 1990, with the PDS (the successor to the East German SED) only carrying a single constituency (Hellersdorf-Marzahn which, interestingly, was the only Berlin constituency to go AFD this year).

In the next two elections the PDS slowly increased their vote share, and continued to do so as PDS/Die Linke.PDS/Die Linke right up until 2021, when they lost half of their seats following the emergence of AFD.

Rather than seeing it as a hangover from old Politburo days, I think it's all a sign of growing disillusionment in the old East. The wave of optimism in 1990 ended up falling away bit by bit in successive elections, as the East remained (and remains to this day) the poor relation of the West.

The population previously pinned their hopes on Die Linke to try and stand up for them and, with not much having changed, have been very easily persuaded to switch their allegiance to AFD.

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Germany divided (again) on 23:21 - Feb 24 with 554 viewspositivity

Germany divided (again) on 22:44 - Feb 24 by Zx1988

The political history of the old East German Länder post-1990 is quite interesting. There was a real rejection of the former ways in 1990, with the PDS (the successor to the East German SED) only carrying a single constituency (Hellersdorf-Marzahn which, interestingly, was the only Berlin constituency to go AFD this year).

In the next two elections the PDS slowly increased their vote share, and continued to do so as PDS/Die Linke.PDS/Die Linke right up until 2021, when they lost half of their seats following the emergence of AFD.

Rather than seeing it as a hangover from old Politburo days, I think it's all a sign of growing disillusionment in the old East. The wave of optimism in 1990 ended up falling away bit by bit in successive elections, as the East remained (and remains to this day) the poor relation of the West.

The population previously pinned their hopes on Die Linke to try and stand up for them and, with not much having changed, have been very easily persuaded to switch their allegiance to AFD.


there's an odd amount of "ost-algia" in parts of the east, particularly given the totalaritarian brutality of the stasi, which was one of the most repressive regimes in the soviet bloc.

the levels of (new at least) immigration are far lower in the east, which is a bit of an anomaly given their relatively high support for the afd.

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