| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. 15:19 - Mar 11 with 2503 views | OldFart71 |
I see the orange blob is now saying as Canada has put 25% tariffs on electricity which supplies 1.5 million American homes he's going to put 50% tariffs on Canada's steel and aluminium and he will put tariffs on Canada's car industry that will shut it down. So we have a World now run by mad men who think they can do and take what they want when they want, where men , women and children die daily to satisfy these dangerous people. That is why it's imperative that none succeed. That Putin doesn't take Ukraine, that Trumps tariffs don't succeed and by making sure Putin doesn't succeed that may just stop China from trying to take Taiwan. Politicians of every nation opposed to Putin should learn from WW2 and make sure he is stopped. Anyone who watched the Kursk situation where sailors were allowed to die because Putin refused help can see if he has no compassion for his own men he's not going to worry about other nations peoples. |  | | |  |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 15:57 - Mar 11 with 2128 views | bluejacko |
He has said as well the border could “disappear” he really is like a child throwing a tantrum!
Perhaps the US forces might not respond to orders if he wants to go North. | | | |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 16:11 - Mar 11 with 2081 views | giant_stow |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 15:57 - Mar 11 by bluejacko |
He has said as well the border could “disappear” he really is like a child throwing a tantrum!
Perhaps the US forces might not respond to orders if he wants to go North. |
I've been wondering about your line too - I find it hard to believe that military discipline would hold widely in that scenario (although thats pure guessing) |  |
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| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 16:14 - Mar 11 with 2069 views | Pinewoodblue |
Us stock exchange was holding on opening but on the slide again once Trump opened his mouth.
US imports more Steel & Aluminium from Canada than from any other source. |  |
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| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 16:17 - Mar 11 with 2036 views | bluejacko |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 16:14 - Mar 11 by Pinewoodblue |
Us stock exchange was holding on opening but on the slide again once Trump opened his mouth.
US imports more Steel & Aluminium from Canada than from any other source. |
Your right but apparently he is looking at a aluminium deal with Russia! | | | |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 16:18 - Mar 11 with 2036 views | portmanking |
He wants to engineer a recession as quickly as possible.
There's a lot of debt that needs refinancing before the end of this year and he needs the Treasury rates down pronto. | | | |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 16:23 - Mar 11 with 1994 views | J2BLUE |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 16:18 - Mar 11 by portmanking |
He wants to engineer a recession as quickly as possible.
There's a lot of debt that needs refinancing before the end of this year and he needs the Treasury rates down pronto. |
This gives him far too much credit. |  |
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| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 16:23 - Mar 11 with 1993 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 15:57 - Mar 11 by bluejacko |
He has said as well the border could “disappear” he really is like a child throwing a tantrum!
Perhaps the US forces might not respond to orders if he wants to go North. |
5 weeks ago he was saying that the tariffs were about forcing Canada to stop the flow (trickle) of Fentanyl coming over the northern border.
Not sure how the same border disappearing is going to help with that. It's almost like he's making up as he goes along.
Irony of it is the 2nd amendment which Trump's Republican party is so wedded to, their own administration is exactly the sort of government it was intended to protect the people from. |  |
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| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 16:57 - Mar 11 with 1843 views | Churchman |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 15:57 - Mar 11 by bluejacko |
He has said as well the border could “disappear” he really is like a child throwing a tantrum!
Perhaps the US forces might not respond to orders if he wants to go North. |
I suspect many Americans are drunk with the notion of building their empire. They love make America great again and view the rest of the world as nothing. They’re living the dream. Apart from those Musk is throwing out of work. There’s hardly a peep if objection to any of this in real terms.
I think they’ll invade Canada and take Greenland soon after. I cannot think of a reason why they won’t given Trump is engineering a crisis that wasn’t there. He wants the raw materials and resources. What the Canadian or as we should now say cherished 51st state people want? About as relevant as Ukrainian lives. He has no scruples or moral compass whatsoever.
US forces will respond all right. It’ll be over pretty quickly given it’s not something the Canadians have prepared for. Greenland straight after that. |  | | |
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| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 17:14 - Mar 11 with 1779 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 16:23 - Mar 11 by Cheltenham_Blue |
5 weeks ago he was saying that the tariffs were about forcing Canada to stop the flow (trickle) of Fentanyl coming over the northern border.
Not sure how the same border disappearing is going to help with that. It's almost like he's making up as he goes along.
Irony of it is the 2nd amendment which Trump's Republican party is so wedded to, their own administration is exactly the sort of government it was intended to protect the people from. |
That was the utterly transparent dishonest legal justification to allow him to do it without going through the machinery of the legislature. It allowed him to call it an emergency.
It was never a genuine part of it.
Trump is governing by exec order and bypassing all of the usual mechanisms which must be alarming to any decent american who actually knows or understands anything. | | | |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 17:15 - Mar 11 with 1778 views | Churchman |
It’s time for Starmer to get off that fence. It’s starting to make him look weak.
Canada is a commonwealth member who fought alongside this country in two world wars. Why isn’t the government speaking up for Canada? Why are we not calling the US out over this? There is right and wrong and sometimes you have to put fear aside and do what is right.
We should be supporting Canada as they did us. By hiding behind the plight of others if Starmer thinks we are going to escape Trumps wrath he’s living in dreamland. You watch those tariffs accompanied by threats roll in.
NATO and ‘special relationship’? The first is stone dead. Stop hanging onto the corpse Kier. The second never existed. ‘Special exploitation’ for US benefit would be a far more accurate title. | | | |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 17:24 - Mar 11 with 1706 views | giant_stow |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 17:15 - Mar 11 by Churchman |
It’s time for Starmer to get off that fence. It’s starting to make him look weak.
Canada is a commonwealth member who fought alongside this country in two world wars. Why isn’t the government speaking up for Canada? Why are we not calling the US out over this? There is right and wrong and sometimes you have to put fear aside and do what is right.
We should be supporting Canada as they did us. By hiding behind the plight of others if Starmer thinks we are going to escape Trumps wrath he’s living in dreamland. You watch those tariffs accompanied by threats roll in.
NATO and ‘special relationship’? The first is stone dead. Stop hanging onto the corpse Kier. The second never existed. ‘Special exploitation’ for US benefit would be a far more accurate title. |
I'd be a bit more cautious personally. Look at the reaction to that John Ford's actions. | |
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| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 17:37 - Mar 11 with 1658 views | Churchman |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 17:24 - Mar 11 by giant_stow |
I'd be a bit more cautious personally. Look at the reaction to that John Ford's actions. |
Nah, forget caution. Call Trump, his clowns and America out. He’s going to have to sooner or later. The grovelling bended knee routine will get KS nowhere. They’ll just want more. Make overtures to Europe, support Canada as we should be supporting any country that is threatened by Dictators.
At least Doug Ford has hit back. When the lights go out in Minnesota maybe one or two in oversize MAGA baseball caps might question just how great it all is. I doubt it because most just believe the lies spewing out of those evil, dead eyed people.
When alls said and done, this is not about drugs or anything else. It’s a territory grab against the will of the people. Make them suffer and they’ll bend the knee. The time honoured method of all maniac dictators.
The last time America tried to take Canada was 1812. They lost that war badly, but have eyed Canada ever since. | | | |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 17:50 - Mar 11 with 1605 views | giant_stow |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 17:37 - Mar 11 by Churchman |
Nah, forget caution. Call Trump, his clowns and America out. He’s going to have to sooner or later. The grovelling bended knee routine will get KS nowhere. They’ll just want more. Make overtures to Europe, support Canada as we should be supporting any country that is threatened by Dictators.
At least Doug Ford has hit back. When the lights go out in Minnesota maybe one or two in oversize MAGA baseball caps might question just how great it all is. I doubt it because most just believe the lies spewing out of those evil, dead eyed people.
When alls said and done, this is not about drugs or anything else. It’s a territory grab against the will of the people. Make them suffer and they’ll bend the knee. The time honoured method of all maniac dictators.
The last time America tried to take Canada was 1812. They lost that war badly, but have eyed Canada ever since. |
I kind of agree with all of that, but just think the first priority for the UK (and anyone else really) is to play for time. Time to see if the madman really means it and time to get ready, if he does. | |
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| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 17:57 - Mar 11 with 1586 views | Meadowlark |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 17:15 - Mar 11 by Churchman |
It’s time for Starmer to get off that fence. It’s starting to make him look weak.
Canada is a commonwealth member who fought alongside this country in two world wars. Why isn’t the government speaking up for Canada? Why are we not calling the US out over this? There is right and wrong and sometimes you have to put fear aside and do what is right.
We should be supporting Canada as they did us. By hiding behind the plight of others if Starmer thinks we are going to escape Trumps wrath he’s living in dreamland. You watch those tariffs accompanied by threats roll in.
NATO and ‘special relationship’? The first is stone dead. Stop hanging onto the corpse Kier. The second never existed. ‘Special exploitation’ for US benefit would be a far more accurate title. |
And has "our king" withdrawn his state visit invitation to the lyin' King yet? |  | | |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 18:07 - Mar 11 with 1566 views | Churchman |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 17:50 - Mar 11 by giant_stow |
I kind of agree with all of that, but just think the first priority for the UK (and anyone else really) is to play for time. Time to see if the madman really means it and time to get ready, if he does. |
I would have wholeheartedly agreed with you until 10 days ago when we saw an act that was far worse than Chamberlain at Munich. Betrayal accompanied by snarling bullying.
Trump will seek to harm this country. He’s going is betraying all his allies for 30 pieces of silver a time. He sees nothing but greed and gain. He respects nobody but like minded evil people.
I hope Starmer is spending as much time as possible at the moment trying to extricate us as fast as feasible from them, military and all other respects. That includes arrangements with others under threat (eg Canada).
Fantasy thoughts from me, because you are of course right GS. I’m just annoyed. Apologies. [Post edited 11 Mar 18:08]
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| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 18:16 - Mar 11 with 1520 views | bluejacko |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 18:07 - Mar 11 by Churchman |
I would have wholeheartedly agreed with you until 10 days ago when we saw an act that was far worse than Chamberlain at Munich. Betrayal accompanied by snarling bullying.
Trump will seek to harm this country. He’s going is betraying all his allies for 30 pieces of silver a time. He sees nothing but greed and gain. He respects nobody but like minded evil people.
I hope Starmer is spending as much time as possible at the moment trying to extricate us as fast as feasible from them, military and all other respects. That includes arrangements with others under threat (eg Canada).
Fantasy thoughts from me, because you are of course right GS. I’m just annoyed. Apologies. [Post edited 11 Mar 18:08]
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https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/uk-stresses-importance-of-us-defence-industry-ti
Sorry you might well be disappointed with this!
As for invading Canada don’t forget that the respective militaries are virtually joined at the hip due to 80 yrs or so of training and operating together to fight the ‘common’ enemy🙄
Canada would also no doubt invoke A5 dragging us in whether we like it or not! | | | |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 18:34 - Mar 11 with 1481 views | Churchman |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 18:16 - Mar 11 by bluejacko |
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/uk-stresses-importance-of-us-defence-industry-ti
Sorry you might well be disappointed with this!
As for invading Canada don’t forget that the respective militaries are virtually joined at the hip due to 80 yrs or so of training and operating together to fight the ‘common’ enemy🙄
Canada would also no doubt invoke A5 dragging us in whether we like it or not! |
It’s why I used the phrase as fast as feasible. I do know a little bit about how embedded our military relationships are with the US even if I’m now well out of date. Friends of mine, who I go to cricket with are still well connected, even if certain talk is off limits as it is at charity events on stuff like this.
I’m actually lunching with one next week who might enlighten me a little but I doubt it!
Interesting article though. Let’s hope the maniac eases off but sadly with every day he seems to get emboldened. | | | |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 19:15 - Mar 11 with 1388 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 16:57 - Mar 11 by Churchman |
I suspect many Americans are drunk with the notion of building their empire. They love make America great again and view the rest of the world as nothing. They’re living the dream. Apart from those Musk is throwing out of work. There’s hardly a peep if objection to any of this in real terms.
I think they’ll invade Canada and take Greenland soon after. I cannot think of a reason why they won’t given Trump is engineering a crisis that wasn’t there. He wants the raw materials and resources. What the Canadian or as we should now say cherished 51st state people want? About as relevant as Ukrainian lives. He has no scruples or moral compass whatsoever.
US forces will respond all right. It’ll be over pretty quickly given it’s not something the Canadians have prepared for. Greenland straight after that. |
Good luck holding it. |  |
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| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 19:29 - Mar 11 with 1356 views | Churchman |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 19:15 - Mar 11 by Kropotkin123 |
Good luck holding it. |
I know there’s plenty of words about ‘brothers across the border’ but my limited expedience of Canada and Canadians tells me there’s little desire to become American. In fact if you are up for a fight in Canada, just call one a second rate American. Action guaranteed. Not necessarily advisable given the size of an awful lot of them!
I like Canadians though. Good people, even if they do need to cut out the French stuff on the east size. | | | |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 19:43 - Mar 11 with 1307 views | Ryorry |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 16:57 - Mar 11 by Churchman |
I suspect many Americans are drunk with the notion of building their empire. They love make America great again and view the rest of the world as nothing. They’re living the dream. Apart from those Musk is throwing out of work. There’s hardly a peep if objection to any of this in real terms.
I think they’ll invade Canada and take Greenland soon after. I cannot think of a reason why they won’t given Trump is engineering a crisis that wasn’t there. He wants the raw materials and resources. What the Canadian or as we should now say cherished 51st state people want? About as relevant as Ukrainian lives. He has no scruples or moral compass whatsoever.
US forces will respond all right. It’ll be over pretty quickly given it’s not something the Canadians have prepared for. Greenland straight after that. |
Tbh, if the USA did actually make moves to annexe Canada, I think that would be the last straw in dmonstrating to the majority of even MAGA supporters that T.rump is actually insane.
Post not based on any proof or stats btw, but I don't think it's any less reliable than second-guessing the orange toddler. |  |
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| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 20:13 - Mar 11 with 1180 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 19:29 - Mar 11 by Churchman |
I know there’s plenty of words about ‘brothers across the border’ but my limited expedience of Canada and Canadians tells me there’s little desire to become American. In fact if you are up for a fight in Canada, just call one a second rate American. Action guaranteed. Not necessarily advisable given the size of an awful lot of them!
I like Canadians though. Good people, even if they do need to cut out the French stuff on the east size. |
Yeah, I don't know a single person that wants to become apart of America. Key roadblocks would be things like universal healthcare, perhaps relatively unregulated gun ownership, or having someone like Trump or Vance as a president. | |
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| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 20:13 - Mar 11 with 1177 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 19:43 - Mar 11 by Ryorry |
Tbh, if the USA did actually make moves to annexe Canada, I think that would be the last straw in dmonstrating to the majority of even MAGA supporters that T.rump is actually insane.
Post not based on any proof or stats btw, but I don't think it's any less reliable than second-guessing the orange toddler. |
I wonder if Trump genuinely believes that a trade imbalance is the same as subsidising other countries. He seems to. | | | |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 20:40 - Mar 11 with 1126 views | Guthrum |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 17:15 - Mar 11 by Churchman |
It’s time for Starmer to get off that fence. It’s starting to make him look weak.
Canada is a commonwealth member who fought alongside this country in two world wars. Why isn’t the government speaking up for Canada? Why are we not calling the US out over this? There is right and wrong and sometimes you have to put fear aside and do what is right.
We should be supporting Canada as they did us. By hiding behind the plight of others if Starmer thinks we are going to escape Trumps wrath he’s living in dreamland. You watch those tariffs accompanied by threats roll in.
NATO and ‘special relationship’? The first is stone dead. Stop hanging onto the corpse Kier. The second never existed. ‘Special exploitation’ for US benefit would be a far more accurate title. |
Starmer is buying the time to get Europe - and us - up to speed.
Trump is still the man in charge of the world's nominal largest economy (and best-equipped, third largest regular military). Also a man who doesn't take being refused his own way. He simply can't be shouted at like some random yobbo. He's very, very dangerous.
Apart from a bit of righteous warm glow, nothing positive will be achieved by confronting him. It certainly won't change his course for the better. Or make his cultists think again. |  |
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| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 20:42 - Mar 11 with 1110 views | J2BLUE |
| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 20:40 - Mar 11 by Guthrum |
Starmer is buying the time to get Europe - and us - up to speed.
Trump is still the man in charge of the world's nominal largest economy (and best-equipped, third largest regular military). Also a man who doesn't take being refused his own way. He simply can't be shouted at like some random yobbo. He's very, very dangerous.
Apart from a bit of righteous warm glow, nothing positive will be achieved by confronting him. It certainly won't change his course for the better. Or make his cultists think again. |
Precisely this. | |
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| Trump and his 50% Tariffs. on 20:43 - Mar 11 with 1081 views | TractorWood |
It's definitely out of control. It's worse than top rate of tax in the UK! |  |
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