| War Crimes and Gaza Starvation 08:30 - May 11 with 1718 views | Churchman |
An interesting article in the Irish Times. It starts by saying basically that starvation is now a weapon. What next? Hitler’s ’Hunger Plan’ (the aim was to dispose of about 30m people. The actual figure who died from this disgusting atrocity isn’t known. 10m?)? Because it looks like a small scale version of it to me.
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2025/05/11/gazans-now-eat-one-meal-every-two-
The article basically says for what they are doing, Putin, Netanyahu and Trump should be held accountable for war crimes.
I don’t know the political leanings of this publication, but thought it made interesting points. Of course all three countries are authoritarian or a dictatorship and they feel the right to write the narrative and do as they please. I disagree. To use Churchill’s words, whatever the cost.
I noticed Starmer, Mertz, Macron, Tusk met VZ yesterday. It’s important they quietly form a binding alliance as collectively they carry weight. The drift towards what we are seeing with the dictators and friends has to be resisted in my opinion. Worth a read to those interested. |  | | |  |
| War Crimes and Gaza Starvation on 21:57 - May 12 with 279 views | DJR |
| War Crimes and Gaza Starvation on 21:55 - May 12 by TractorWood |
And I stand by them. It's a constitual federal Republic with representative democracy that is facing some abnormal pressures from a power mad leader.
It's not authoritarian. |
We can obviously agree to disagree.  |  | | |
| War Crimes and Gaza Starvation on 22:00 - May 12 with 275 views | TractorWood |
| War Crimes and Gaza Starvation on 21:49 - May 12 by DJR |
As I said above, your argument was never about autocracy.
And the article talks about suspending habeas corpus which would prevent the courts being involved. [Post edited 12 May 21:51]
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Congress has the power to suspend it has it has done in the past not the president as stipulated in the constitution. Again, checks and balances undermining your points again. |  |
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| War Crimes and Gaza Starvation on 22:11 - May 12 with 247 views | DJR |
| War Crimes and Gaza Starvation on 22:00 - May 12 by TractorWood |
Congress has the power to suspend it has it has done in the past not the president as stipulated in the constitution. Again, checks and balances undermining your points again. |
As a lawyer the fact that it is even being talked about in such a situation is very troubling, especially with a Congress very few of whom are brave enough to stand up to Trump.
And please feel free to demolish all 100 examples in the Human Rights Watch article.
Incidentally, you still haven't explained why you switched to talking about autocracy.
Finally, I wonder if you would regard Trump as a demagogue, given the following definition from Wikipedia.
A demagogue (/ˈdɛməˌɡɒɡ/; from Ancient Greek δημαγωγός (dēmagōgós) 'popular leader, mob leader'; from Ancient Greek δῆμος (dêmos) 'people, populace' and ἀγωγός (agōgós) 'leading, guiding'),[1] or rabble-rouser,[2][3] is a political leader in a democracy who gains popularity by arousing the common people against elites, especially through oratory that whips up the passions of crowds, appealing to emotion by scapegoating out-groups, exaggerating dangers to stoke fears, lying for emotional effect, or other rhetoric that tends to drown out reasoned deliberation and encourage fanatical popularity.[4] Demagogues overturn established norms of political conduct, or promise or threaten to do so.[ [Post edited 12 May 22:17]
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| War Crimes and Gaza Starvation on 22:16 - May 12 with 238 views | redrickstuhaart |
| War Crimes and Gaza Starvation on 22:00 - May 12 by TractorWood |
Congress has the power to suspend it has it has done in the past not the president as stipulated in the constitution. Again, checks and balances undermining your points again. |
So far the president has consistently bypassed congress and ignored the courts.
What makes you think this will be different? |  | | |
| War Crimes and Gaza Starvation on 22:19 - May 12 with 236 views | redrickstuhaart |
| War Crimes and Gaza Starvation on 21:40 - May 12 by TractorWood |
Again, I think you are missing the sizable nuance between authoritarian symptoms and leanings and being a fully functioning autocracy like say Russia, North Korea, Eritrea, Turkmenistan etc. |
This is what is called equivocation.
No one has asserted that its a "fully functioning autocracy". You are pretending the phrase is interchangeable with what has been asserted, and then arguing against "full functioning autocracy" rather than what has actually been said. | | | |
| War Crimes and Gaza Starvation on 22:57 - May 12 with 207 views | reusersfreekicks |
| War Crimes and Gaza Starvation on 08:44 - May 11 by TractorWood |
I don't think you can say Trump's America is authoritarian. There are huge symptoms of democratic backsliding but it's not authoritarian.
He has won and lost free elections. Checks and balances remain in place, media and civil society remain largely unaffected, if pressured. |
Media largely unaffected!!
Wakey wakey |  | | |
| War Crimes and Gaza Starvation on 23:03 - May 12 with 199 views | redrickstuhaart |
| War Crimes and Gaza Starvation on 22:57 - May 12 by reusersfreekicks |
Media largely unaffected!!
Wakey wakey |
Quite. They have already loaded the press allowed into white house press events with friendly questioners and banned anyone not republican leaning.
They have threatened law firms who have worked against what they like.
Its blatant and clear. | | | |
| War Crimes and Gaza Starvation on 23:08 - May 12 with 197 views | StokieBlue |
| War Crimes and Gaza Starvation on 22:00 - May 12 by TractorWood |
Congress has the power to suspend it has it has done in the past not the president as stipulated in the constitution. Again, checks and balances undermining your points again. |
Some context is required here.
It's been suspended in times of war or after huge attacks like Pearl Harbour. A president pushing congress to suspend it based on an "invasion" of immigrants is an entirely different thing.
It's disingenuous to compare the instances.
Why have none of these checks and balances stopped the barrage of nationalist executive orders we have seen thus far?
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| War Crimes and Gaza Starvation on 06:56 - May 13 with 124 views | Churchman |
| War Crimes and Gaza Starvation on 23:08 - May 12 by StokieBlue |
Some context is required here.
It's been suspended in times of war or after huge attacks like Pearl Harbour. A president pushing congress to suspend it based on an "invasion" of immigrants is an entirely different thing.
It's disingenuous to compare the instances.
Why have none of these checks and balances stopped the barrage of nationalist executive orders we have seen thus far?
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One of Trumps destabilising tactics is to keep issuing a barrage of executive orders and invoking them to keep the opposition off balance as much as further Project 25. The accompanying limitless lies very much remind me of Hitler in the 1930s. More countries have ‘ripped American off’ than actually exist, but that doesn’t matter. The number isn’t questioned now and neither is the lie.
In terms of constitution checks and balances, they’re being challenged. If for example a judge orders the return or return of a person booted out without trial, ignore it. Fudge any objections with lies and hit easy targets with the next.
Will he succeed in undermining, ripping asunder the constitution? Given how he bears a grudge and never forgets who he perceives has done him wrong, of course he will. Will he try and dispose of judges not on his side? Wouldn’t you? Crush media that objects? Naturally. Given the size of America, the limitations of what their media pumps out and the lack of interest by many of the people beyond oversize hats of course.
America’s former enemies are their friends and visa versa. Why? Because they are weak. Like parasites. They’re ripe for exploitation. Greenland? That’s mine and what is Denmark going to do about it? As long as Xi and Putin agree, happy days. Same with the EU itself. Ripe for exploitation though the carve up is a little more complex. As so on.
All of the above is Authoritarian behaviour. He’s not there yet, but he is working towards it. To use that ghastly cliche, it’s about direction of travel. Trump is a simple man and what he is trying to do is very simple.
Will opposition and time (mid term elections) stop him? I hope so but if were him I’d move fast on media clampdown, constitutional change and muzzling even jailing or worse the opposition. | | | |
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