| Birmingham just dropped £10m 08:58 - Jul 6 with 8935 views | Hackneyblueboy |
On a thirty year old striker. They are really going for it. |  | | |  |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 18:11 - Jul 6 with 1483 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 09:25 - Jul 6 by ITFCSG |
He has a pretty prolific record in the SPL with Celtic, I wouldn’t mind him at Town as a backup to Hirst. 30 years or not, I guarantee you he’s way better than AAH
And our striker drought continues⋯⋯ |
What is our striker drought?! | |
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| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 18:18 - Jul 6 with 1463 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 11:37 - Jul 6 by Churchman |
Is it risky? Surely, mega wealthy clubs can ignore PSR. Or challenge any ruling or sue the authorities. Or come up with some laughable scam like Villa and Chelsea, submit 13 month accounts like Leicester. There’s all sorts of ways including the good old brown envelope for the toothless old fossils ‘running the game’. And when alls said and done, if they reach the PremierLeague, who cares about fines etc.
I think Birmingham with their dough are going for it and I don’t blame them. |
And they have momentum like we did coming from L1.
It’s a pretty bad first game for us, but win it, it will send a strong message to the league for us. |  | | |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 18:39 - Jul 6 with 1390 views | DavoIPB |
Ture but I've seen some of their games from last year and the standard is really poor. So slow littered with mistakes and no discernable tactics from any of the teams. League 1 is a really poor standard compared to the championship. | | | |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 19:02 - Jul 6 with 1342 views | JammyDodgerrr |
Don't think any of their signings outside of Doyle are that impressive. Kyogo only played six games in six months for Rennes and they've let him go. We all know SPL is probably below championship quality, or certainly the bottom half. Beadle will be a good keeper but he won't be playing much. Manager still relatively untested too. |  |
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| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 19:09 - Jul 6 with 1320 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 09:24 - Jul 6 by StokieBlue |
They might have unlimited funds (so do we pretty much) but that doesn't they can spend that. They will have PSR issues if they continue given their 15m spend on one player in league one.
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Have the Premier League closed the gap that Leicester exploited?
If not, is the model to break the rules while in the Championship but get promoted, break the rules in the Premier League but stay up and get hit with the points deduction the following season like Forest did but hopefully with enough strength to accumulate the points needed to stay up again.
A very risky strategy as Leicester might be about to find out, though. |  |
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| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 19:26 - Jul 6 with 1269 views | StokieBlue |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 19:09 - Jul 6 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Have the Premier League closed the gap that Leicester exploited?
If not, is the model to break the rules while in the Championship but get promoted, break the rules in the Premier League but stay up and get hit with the points deduction the following season like Forest did but hopefully with enough strength to accumulate the points needed to stay up again.
A very risky strategy as Leicester might be about to find out, though. |
Yes, the gap has been closed. You can no longer not be a member of either the PL or the EFL due to timing.
They have also agreed to implement each others punishment which was a previous way to get around PSR.
This is a good listen and explains it all:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/7sIgQPdUdP5nNmeP1LXuWb
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| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 19:34 - Jul 6 with 1211 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 18:11 - Jul 6 by Nutkins_Return |
What is our striker drought?! |
It is no secret that we have been chasing at least 1 more striker unsuccessfully for many windows now. | |
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| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 19:58 - Jul 6 with 1154 views | olimar |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 14:50 - Jul 6 by Radlett_blue |
I think it's one of the hardest fixtures we could have first up. Brum still have momentum from last season, a full house under lights. I'd take a draw now. |
Totally agree with this- newly promoted teams in great form are exactly the ones you want to avoid early on. The idea it will be easier because they have to bed in new players is probably wishful thinking- they are in a good position that they dont need to throw players in if they arent quite up to speed with things (a bit like we did last year).
Whilst signing 6 players a good month before the season starts suggests that some of them might be ready to go by then anyway. | | | |
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| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 20:02 - Jul 6 with 1145 views | olimar |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 19:02 - Jul 6 by JammyDodgerrr |
Don't think any of their signings outside of Doyle are that impressive. Kyogo only played six games in six months for Rennes and they've let him go. We all know SPL is probably below championship quality, or certainly the bottom half. Beadle will be a good keeper but he won't be playing much. Manager still relatively untested too. |
But equally, he was worth £10m only 6 months ago as a 30 year old- his record at Celtic was phenomenal and regardless of the quality of the league, you only have to look at the standard of the finishing to recognise there is a high level of talent (physique maybe an issue).
If we sign a 28 year old for £15m we would think thats a massive statement of intent. To me, £10m on a 30 year old with his record looks similar. | | | |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 20:35 - Jul 6 with 1041 views | Radlett_blue |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 18:39 - Jul 6 by DavoIPB |
Ture but I've seen some of their games from last year and the standard is really poor. So slow littered with mistakes and no discernable tactics from any of the teams. League 1 is a really poor standard compared to the championship. |
I agree with that and that's why I was amazed how well we did on our return to the Championship. The reality is that it should be a very hard game for Birmingham too. |  |
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| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 20:45 - Jul 6 with 1017 views | ITFCSG |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 20:02 - Jul 6 by olimar |
But equally, he was worth £10m only 6 months ago as a 30 year old- his record at Celtic was phenomenal and regardless of the quality of the league, you only have to look at the standard of the finishing to recognise there is a high level of talent (physique maybe an issue).
If we sign a 28 year old for £15m we would think thats a massive statement of intent. To me, £10m on a 30 year old with his record looks similar. |
Well at present, Brum's strike force (Kyogo and Stansfield) as a newly promoted club from L1 is on paper much better than us, a parachute club (Hirst and AAH).
Its time to wake up, MA | | | |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 20:53 - Jul 6 with 982 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 17:45 - Jul 6 by StokieBlue |
Mega clubs can get away with it.
Clubs like Leicester less so, if you listen to the second tier episode from last week with the football financial expert they could receive two penalties this year now that the PL and EFL have agreed to apply each others points penalties.
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Leicester have got away with it, no fine. |  |
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| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 21:08 - Jul 6 with 920 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 20:53 - Jul 6 by Wallingford_Boy |
Leicester have got away with it, no fine. |
Leicester are subject to 2 ongoing investigations, both likely to result in punishment. So no, there has been no fines yet, but they haven’t gotten away with it. | | | |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 21:09 - Jul 6 with 908 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 21:08 - Jul 6 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Leicester are subject to 2 ongoing investigations, both likely to result in punishment. So no, there has been no fines yet, but they haven’t gotten away with it. |
We’ll see.. | |
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| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 21:18 - Jul 6 with 873 views | StokieBlue |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 20:53 - Jul 6 by Wallingford_Boy |
Leicester have got away with it, no fine. |
I think you need to go back and read what I wrote.
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| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 21:20 - Jul 6 with 870 views | StokieBlue |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 21:09 - Jul 6 by Wallingford_Boy |
We’ll see.. |
Why don't you listen to the podcast I linked rather than making sniping comments?
It explains it all and why they can't get out of it in the ways they have previously and what loopholes have been closed.
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| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 21:43 - Jul 6 with 816 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 20:45 - Jul 6 by ITFCSG |
Well at present, Brum's strike force (Kyogo and Stansfield) as a newly promoted club from L1 is on paper much better than us, a parachute club (Hirst and AAH).
Its time to wake up, MA |
We're shopping in a different market to them. | |
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| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 21:52 - Jul 6 with 775 views | Vaughan8 |
I've been fooled by people on here before saying players/teams are good before a seasons started.
I'm going to reserve judgement until definitely the first game, but also the 9 afterwards and see where they are after 10 games! | | | |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 22:10 - Jul 6 with 724 views | ITFCSG |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 21:43 - Jul 6 by JammyDodgerrr |
We're shopping in a different market to them. |
OK, lets see. When the transfer window ends are our new signings of a higher quality than Birmingham. That's a very low bar measuring ourselves - as a parachute club vs a newly promoted club. In fact the comparison shouldn't even exist. | | | |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 22:18 - Jul 6 with 661 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 22:10 - Jul 6 by ITFCSG |
OK, lets see. When the transfer window ends are our new signings of a higher quality than Birmingham. That's a very low bar measuring ourselves - as a parachute club vs a newly promoted club. In fact the comparison shouldn't even exist. |
Alternatively you could look at it as a very rich club newly promoted from League 1 (so needing some strengthening as we did when we were that) vs a freshly relegated Premier League club that (on paper at least) is starting with a better squad.
Why wouldn't comparing the two clubs' signings be a reasonable measure of whether we are likely to keep ahead of the competition? Of course, adding in a comparison with Leicester's and Southampton's would be reasonable too. But aren't Brum amongst the favourites for promotion? | |
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| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 22:23 - Jul 6 with 648 views | StokieBlue |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 22:10 - Jul 6 by ITFCSG |
OK, lets see. When the transfer window ends are our new signings of a higher quality than Birmingham. That's a very low bar measuring ourselves - as a parachute club vs a newly promoted club. In fact the comparison shouldn't even exist. |
He's not said that though.
He's said we're shopping in a "different market" so not really sure why you're making out he's setting a low bar.
Our squad is better than Brums, holes will be filled, this clamour to sign at all costs is an issue, we need to sign the right players not lots of players.
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| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 22:25 - Jul 6 with 633 views | ITFCSG |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 22:18 - Jul 6 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Alternatively you could look at it as a very rich club newly promoted from League 1 (so needing some strengthening as we did when we were that) vs a freshly relegated Premier League club that (on paper at least) is starting with a better squad.
Why wouldn't comparing the two clubs' signings be a reasonable measure of whether we are likely to keep ahead of the competition? Of course, adding in a comparison with Leicester's and Southampton's would be reasonable too. But aren't Brum amongst the favourites for promotion? |
Fair enough. But as a player which club is more attractive. People who were claiming we couldn't attract Prem regulars as a newly-promoted club in the PL last season - the same applies to Brum as well in the Championship. So why are they so special?
Leicester and Saints are a financial basket case this season, they won't have much room to spend unlike us so once again you can't really measure ourselves with them.
No one said Brum were favourites for promotion except their delusional fans posting all over social media. | | | |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 22:30 - Jul 6 with 597 views | ITFCSG |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 22:23 - Jul 6 by StokieBlue |
He's not said that though.
He's said we're shopping in a "different market" so not really sure why you're making out he's setting a low bar.
Our squad is better than Brums, holes will be filled, this clamour to sign at all costs is an issue, we need to sign the right players not lots of players.
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What I meant was comparing ourselves (as a parachute club) vs Brum (a newly promoted club) in terms of attracting new players was a low bar.
For starters, we need to get a 9 in who is proven to be better than Kyogo.
I am longing to see who MA will bring in. | | | |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 22:33 - Jul 6 with 568 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 22:25 - Jul 6 by ITFCSG |
Fair enough. But as a player which club is more attractive. People who were claiming we couldn't attract Prem regulars as a newly-promoted club in the PL last season - the same applies to Brum as well in the Championship. So why are they so special?
Leicester and Saints are a financial basket case this season, they won't have much room to spend unlike us so once again you can't really measure ourselves with them.
No one said Brum were favourites for promotion except their delusional fans posting all over social media. |
I would imagine the expectation that Brum will be challenging for promotion will make them far more attractive than Town were to Premier League quality players when we were expected to finish bottom.
Ultimately we need to be attracting players that will make us better which means we will probably be competing with sides like the recently promoted ones (we have already lost out on Tuanzebe there). In fact keeping the likes of Davis, Hirst, and Hutchinson will be as important as signing another striker and a couple of midfielders. | |
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| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 22:37 - Jul 6 with 540 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Birmingham just dropped £10m on 22:30 - Jul 6 by ITFCSG |
What I meant was comparing ourselves (as a parachute club) vs Brum (a newly promoted club) in terms of attracting new players was a low bar.
For starters, we need to get a 9 in who is proven to be better than Kyogo.
I am longing to see who MA will bring in. |
Currently Hirst has shown he is better than kyogo in our championship.
It's not to be forgotten that Kyogo hasn't played a champ game yet. But also he had shoulder surgery, months out and then further issues with the same shoulder. Who knows what level he can now play let alone how many games. |  |
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