| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) 07:03 - Jul 10 with 5884 views | Wallingford_Boy |
Is Burns fit yet?
Is Ogbene good enough?
Who to replace him on the right? |  |
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| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:09 - Jul 10 with 936 views | BarcaBlue |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 09:57 - Jul 10 by bluejacko |
And yet! Delap had the chance to play for the U21,s and come home with a winner’s medal but gave that up to play in a meaningless tournament in America! He may well have dented his England chances with a dubious decision to put club before country. |
He may have had little choice. He may have considered that fitting in early with Chelsea is more important to his his long time career. Not many people outside England and Germany will have been aware of the U21s match but many many millions more will be watching Chelsea with Delap taking on PSG on Sunday.
The FIFA world team cup is completely unnecessary but it's not meaningless to clubs who have made millions from it, or for players, especially those who haven't regularly played against top international clubs. Being in the final and playing matches against top sides is unlikely to dent his England chances imho. |  | | |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:18 - Jul 10 with 903 views | Westcountryblue |
The club aren't going to part with Omari unless an offer of 35m activates his clause. End of story. Unfortunately, there has been a bit of noise about his agent/Dad not being too happy about this, but the club made a financial commitment to signing him only 12 months ago.
He is on a long term contract and is entering his 3rd season of competitive football, with a huge runway ahead of him. There is absolutely no incentive for the club to sell him for anything below that price. Without doubt, i think he is the best player in this division by some stretch. He is essential to our fortunes this year. [Post edited 10 Jul 10:24]
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| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:30 - Jul 10 with 857 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:18 - Jul 10 by Westcountryblue |
The club aren't going to part with Omari unless an offer of 35m activates his clause. End of story. Unfortunately, there has been a bit of noise about his agent/Dad not being too happy about this, but the club made a financial commitment to signing him only 12 months ago.
He is on a long term contract and is entering his 3rd season of competitive football, with a huge runway ahead of him. There is absolutely no incentive for the club to sell him for anything below that price. Without doubt, i think he is the best player in this division by some stretch. He is essential to our fortunes this year. [Post edited 10 Jul 10:24]
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Bottom line is they shouldn't have agreed to tbe clause at rhe time if they didn't like it. Its was out there to protect the club.....Omari has and will continue to benefit hugely from playing regularly in both developing and his own profile |  |
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| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:40 - Jul 10 with 829 views | darkhorse28 |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 07:33 - Jul 10 by NthQldITFC |
The thing is, it comes across like you're desperate for him to go, to 'prove' your 'point'. He may go, he may not, we just don't know.
But it's about him, not you. |
I think the frustration is, Omari is 100% going. Even if he didn’t want to, WE need him to (the owners).
We ARE up for sale, we DID spend up to £100 million and we DID make our manager one of the best paid in Europe.
We rolled the dice, it didn’t work…, pretending it’s a long term project, and we are ‘building’ doesn’t fit what actually happened.
We spent an eye watering sum of money, didn’t get very good value, and got horrific outcomes .
These are the consequences.., we can lose part of £20 million liabilities over the next 3 years and boom a £15 million profit or £10 million at least, and that’s 100% why he’s going.
Ni it’s and no buts. Gone. And he’ll play at a higher level and want to leave for that alone, he didn’t want 50 games at this level anyway, and he does deserve better.
I think the frustration is, even after the owners have laid it out.., in black and white plain English, there are still fans clinging on to the emotion and dream they invested in, for dear life.
They can’t separate their ego, the club, and what they bought into from the facts and the evidence.
If we’d spent £50 million, the owners wouldn’t be selling up.
We spent what could still reach closer to £150 million.., on the promise that it would guarantee staying up (as much as it could)
The owners got it wrong.., the bought in to Ashton specifically and that narrative, that McKenna was the real deal.
Last season, he 100% wasn’t, and the financial consequences alone, when you spend more than any promoted club in history, are defining for our future.
Ashton wouldn’t be here if the owners didn’t need continuity.
Now he has to fix his mess.., and player sales are part of that.
We can’t service the amortised liabilities if spending £100-150 million over 4 years on EFL revenue, it’s not possible.
We’ll sell over £70 million worth of players and reduce those liabilities, banking profits if we can, but losses if we need to, to get those liabilities off the books.
It’s a mess of our own making.
Supporters still just clinging on to the clubs made up nonsense because it feels good, doesn’t help.
At least with some honesty, as much as it’s not ideal, we can start to dream again!!!
This time maybe we can focus on the off the field requirements at based level, and being actually best in class, not EFL level.
There’s a huge amount to be positive about…, if we can get new owners who are football people, and understand what elite looks like.
Omari .., be thankful we had him, an absolute joy to watch, and he’s, we had a chance with him and Delap to build something beautiful, they are THAT good.
But we blew it.
And you clapped every Ashton mistake too.., no finger pointing.., we needed agency, and we got mostly looking the other way to bad decision after bad decision after bad decision.
It’s still true today.
The size of last years failures was spectacular, it wasn’t a minor setback.
We need new owners and a totally new direction now.
The owners, many staff, and many players, have lost faith in our project.
If that isn’t definitive (the closest people to Ashton and McKenna) I don’t know what is. | | | |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:41 - Jul 10 with 828 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 08:47 - Jul 10 by BarcaBlue |
Have you considered that footballers are just like the majority of the population who want to better themselves by earning more and working at the top level possible? Delap has far more chance of playing for England at Chelsea than he ever would in the Championship. Omari would start every game for any team outside the PL but it doesn't mean he should give up on playing there. These are confident and ambitious young men and are unlikely to be solely motivated by minutes in the Champ. |
I think you are right, they are just like anyone else.
So its odd that there seems to be this assumption that we would all jump ship to a bigger company for more money, even if it meant getting to the very top, our career goal, was delayed or stopped all together.
Players are very confident in their own abilities, but they also are not thick, contrary to popular belief, (albeit some clearly are), Omari will know that his time at England U21 level is pretty much up, the two questions he needs to ask himself are:
1. Will staying at Ipswich harm my chances of a England call up for the World Cup in 2026?
2. Am I best served getting regular game time or being an impact player from the bench for two years in the Premier League?
The answer to the first depends on whether or not he will get that call. I would strongly argue no, not for this world cup at any rate. At the last training camp, Delap was invited to train with the senior squad, Omari not.
Then you also need to look who is ahead of him Gordon, Sancho, Barnes, Rashford and the list goes on, England currently have an embarrassment of riches in all of Omari's positions.
The answer to the second is going to depend on what advice he is getting from the people around him, his agent is likely to push for a move, but McKenna, who he is known to be close to, will inevitably advise that he will hit his ceiling quicker by staying at Town for now and that is likely to be true.
It's easy to forget that at Chelsea he wasn't really getting a look in and there wasn't a queue to sign him from the Premier League when we signed him. You could also argue that in the Premier League he didn't really show what he could do very often against seasoned Premier League defenders.
Yes, he had 2-3 very good games for the U21s but running at an inexperienced u21 defender is a very different prospect to running at Van Dijk. |  |
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| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:47 - Jul 10 with 799 views | itfcsuth |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 07:30 - Jul 10 by stiff_talking |
Ogbene is a very good player. Wes excellent at this level.
Omari will play alongside them at #10. |
We've seen Omari in the 10, it's not his position, it really doesn't put his strengths to best use.
He's a winger, he's a 1v1 player, he twists and turns them inside out and delivers - he cannot play in them pockets.
No need to shoehorn players in when it's a detriment to themselves, Omari in the 10, Jaden as a RW - it's not them at their best. |  | | |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:48 - Jul 10 with 794 views | bartyg |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:40 - Jul 10 by darkhorse28 |
I think the frustration is, Omari is 100% going. Even if he didn’t want to, WE need him to (the owners).
We ARE up for sale, we DID spend up to £100 million and we DID make our manager one of the best paid in Europe.
We rolled the dice, it didn’t work…, pretending it’s a long term project, and we are ‘building’ doesn’t fit what actually happened.
We spent an eye watering sum of money, didn’t get very good value, and got horrific outcomes .
These are the consequences.., we can lose part of £20 million liabilities over the next 3 years and boom a £15 million profit or £10 million at least, and that’s 100% why he’s going.
Ni it’s and no buts. Gone. And he’ll play at a higher level and want to leave for that alone, he didn’t want 50 games at this level anyway, and he does deserve better.
I think the frustration is, even after the owners have laid it out.., in black and white plain English, there are still fans clinging on to the emotion and dream they invested in, for dear life.
They can’t separate their ego, the club, and what they bought into from the facts and the evidence.
If we’d spent £50 million, the owners wouldn’t be selling up.
We spent what could still reach closer to £150 million.., on the promise that it would guarantee staying up (as much as it could)
The owners got it wrong.., the bought in to Ashton specifically and that narrative, that McKenna was the real deal.
Last season, he 100% wasn’t, and the financial consequences alone, when you spend more than any promoted club in history, are defining for our future.
Ashton wouldn’t be here if the owners didn’t need continuity.
Now he has to fix his mess.., and player sales are part of that.
We can’t service the amortised liabilities if spending £100-150 million over 4 years on EFL revenue, it’s not possible.
We’ll sell over £70 million worth of players and reduce those liabilities, banking profits if we can, but losses if we need to, to get those liabilities off the books.
It’s a mess of our own making.
Supporters still just clinging on to the clubs made up nonsense because it feels good, doesn’t help.
At least with some honesty, as much as it’s not ideal, we can start to dream again!!!
This time maybe we can focus on the off the field requirements at based level, and being actually best in class, not EFL level.
There’s a huge amount to be positive about…, if we can get new owners who are football people, and understand what elite looks like.
Omari .., be thankful we had him, an absolute joy to watch, and he’s, we had a chance with him and Delap to build something beautiful, they are THAT good.
But we blew it.
And you clapped every Ashton mistake too.., no finger pointing.., we needed agency, and we got mostly looking the other way to bad decision after bad decision after bad decision.
It’s still true today.
The size of last years failures was spectacular, it wasn’t a minor setback.
We need new owners and a totally new direction now.
The owners, many staff, and many players, have lost faith in our project.
If that isn’t definitive (the closest people to Ashton and McKenna) I don’t know what is. |
any chance of you stringing a coherent sentence together |  | | |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:53 - Jul 10 with 758 views | Metal_Hacker |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:48 - Jul 10 by bartyg |
any chance of you stringing a coherent sentence together |
Phew….thought it was just me |  |
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| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:54 - Jul 10 with 751 views | baxterbasics |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:40 - Jul 10 by darkhorse28 |
I think the frustration is, Omari is 100% going. Even if he didn’t want to, WE need him to (the owners).
We ARE up for sale, we DID spend up to £100 million and we DID make our manager one of the best paid in Europe.
We rolled the dice, it didn’t work…, pretending it’s a long term project, and we are ‘building’ doesn’t fit what actually happened.
We spent an eye watering sum of money, didn’t get very good value, and got horrific outcomes .
These are the consequences.., we can lose part of £20 million liabilities over the next 3 years and boom a £15 million profit or £10 million at least, and that’s 100% why he’s going.
Ni it’s and no buts. Gone. And he’ll play at a higher level and want to leave for that alone, he didn’t want 50 games at this level anyway, and he does deserve better.
I think the frustration is, even after the owners have laid it out.., in black and white plain English, there are still fans clinging on to the emotion and dream they invested in, for dear life.
They can’t separate their ego, the club, and what they bought into from the facts and the evidence.
If we’d spent £50 million, the owners wouldn’t be selling up.
We spent what could still reach closer to £150 million.., on the promise that it would guarantee staying up (as much as it could)
The owners got it wrong.., the bought in to Ashton specifically and that narrative, that McKenna was the real deal.
Last season, he 100% wasn’t, and the financial consequences alone, when you spend more than any promoted club in history, are defining for our future.
Ashton wouldn’t be here if the owners didn’t need continuity.
Now he has to fix his mess.., and player sales are part of that.
We can’t service the amortised liabilities if spending £100-150 million over 4 years on EFL revenue, it’s not possible.
We’ll sell over £70 million worth of players and reduce those liabilities, banking profits if we can, but losses if we need to, to get those liabilities off the books.
It’s a mess of our own making.
Supporters still just clinging on to the clubs made up nonsense because it feels good, doesn’t help.
At least with some honesty, as much as it’s not ideal, we can start to dream again!!!
This time maybe we can focus on the off the field requirements at based level, and being actually best in class, not EFL level.
There’s a huge amount to be positive about…, if we can get new owners who are football people, and understand what elite looks like.
Omari .., be thankful we had him, an absolute joy to watch, and he’s, we had a chance with him and Delap to build something beautiful, they are THAT good.
But we blew it.
And you clapped every Ashton mistake too.., no finger pointing.., we needed agency, and we got mostly looking the other way to bad decision after bad decision after bad decision.
It’s still true today.
The size of last years failures was spectacular, it wasn’t a minor setback.
We need new owners and a totally new direction now.
The owners, many staff, and many players, have lost faith in our project.
If that isn’t definitive (the closest people to Ashton and McKenna) I don’t know what is. |
TLDR |  |
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| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:55 - Jul 10 with 745 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:40 - Jul 10 by darkhorse28 |
I think the frustration is, Omari is 100% going. Even if he didn’t want to, WE need him to (the owners).
We ARE up for sale, we DID spend up to £100 million and we DID make our manager one of the best paid in Europe.
We rolled the dice, it didn’t work…, pretending it’s a long term project, and we are ‘building’ doesn’t fit what actually happened.
We spent an eye watering sum of money, didn’t get very good value, and got horrific outcomes .
These are the consequences.., we can lose part of £20 million liabilities over the next 3 years and boom a £15 million profit or £10 million at least, and that’s 100% why he’s going.
Ni it’s and no buts. Gone. And he’ll play at a higher level and want to leave for that alone, he didn’t want 50 games at this level anyway, and he does deserve better.
I think the frustration is, even after the owners have laid it out.., in black and white plain English, there are still fans clinging on to the emotion and dream they invested in, for dear life.
They can’t separate their ego, the club, and what they bought into from the facts and the evidence.
If we’d spent £50 million, the owners wouldn’t be selling up.
We spent what could still reach closer to £150 million.., on the promise that it would guarantee staying up (as much as it could)
The owners got it wrong.., the bought in to Ashton specifically and that narrative, that McKenna was the real deal.
Last season, he 100% wasn’t, and the financial consequences alone, when you spend more than any promoted club in history, are defining for our future.
Ashton wouldn’t be here if the owners didn’t need continuity.
Now he has to fix his mess.., and player sales are part of that.
We can’t service the amortised liabilities if spending £100-150 million over 4 years on EFL revenue, it’s not possible.
We’ll sell over £70 million worth of players and reduce those liabilities, banking profits if we can, but losses if we need to, to get those liabilities off the books.
It’s a mess of our own making.
Supporters still just clinging on to the clubs made up nonsense because it feels good, doesn’t help.
At least with some honesty, as much as it’s not ideal, we can start to dream again!!!
This time maybe we can focus on the off the field requirements at based level, and being actually best in class, not EFL level.
There’s a huge amount to be positive about…, if we can get new owners who are football people, and understand what elite looks like.
Omari .., be thankful we had him, an absolute joy to watch, and he’s, we had a chance with him and Delap to build something beautiful, they are THAT good.
But we blew it.
And you clapped every Ashton mistake too.., no finger pointing.., we needed agency, and we got mostly looking the other way to bad decision after bad decision after bad decision.
It’s still true today.
The size of last years failures was spectacular, it wasn’t a minor setback.
We need new owners and a totally new direction now.
The owners, many staff, and many players, have lost faith in our project.
If that isn’t definitive (the closest people to Ashton and McKenna) I don’t know what is. |
I don't know why I bother, but ...
More factually incorrect, incoherent bollox from our favourite budgie... | | | |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:56 - Jul 10 with 745 views | itfcsuth |
If we are looking for £100m+ in sales this summer I think everybody will be out the door, not just Omari. | | | |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:58 - Jul 10 with 738 views | baxterbasics |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:56 - Jul 10 by itfcsuth |
If we are looking for £100m+ in sales this summer I think everybody will be out the door, not just Omari. |
I think we're all reading too much into this £100m thing. It's a potential, 'up to' - not necessarily a target. | |
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| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 11:01 - Jul 10 with 711 views | HighgateBlue |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:56 - Jul 10 by itfcsuth |
If we are looking for £100m+ in sales this summer I think everybody will be out the door, not just Omari. |
Yes, this was a very worrying thing to read. If it's the real intention, then I wonder who will be sold in order to make this figure? Delap, Davis, Hutch, Muric, presumably?
If it's not the real intention, then why on earth write something like that? It's in unambiguous terms, and it makes you wonder about some of those involved in running the club. Anyone who has any power over the generation of £100m should be more careful or more able to use language accurately.
It's not great that the club is having to deny that it's for sale. Whether the squad is for sale remains to be seen. It would be nice to have a clarificatory statement from Brett Johnson, to be honest. |  | | |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 11:01 - Jul 10 with 708 views | bluejacko |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:40 - Jul 10 by darkhorse28 |
I think the frustration is, Omari is 100% going. Even if he didn’t want to, WE need him to (the owners).
We ARE up for sale, we DID spend up to £100 million and we DID make our manager one of the best paid in Europe.
We rolled the dice, it didn’t work…, pretending it’s a long term project, and we are ‘building’ doesn’t fit what actually happened.
We spent an eye watering sum of money, didn’t get very good value, and got horrific outcomes .
These are the consequences.., we can lose part of £20 million liabilities over the next 3 years and boom a £15 million profit or £10 million at least, and that’s 100% why he’s going.
Ni it’s and no buts. Gone. And he’ll play at a higher level and want to leave for that alone, he didn’t want 50 games at this level anyway, and he does deserve better.
I think the frustration is, even after the owners have laid it out.., in black and white plain English, there are still fans clinging on to the emotion and dream they invested in, for dear life.
They can’t separate their ego, the club, and what they bought into from the facts and the evidence.
If we’d spent £50 million, the owners wouldn’t be selling up.
We spent what could still reach closer to £150 million.., on the promise that it would guarantee staying up (as much as it could)
The owners got it wrong.., the bought in to Ashton specifically and that narrative, that McKenna was the real deal.
Last season, he 100% wasn’t, and the financial consequences alone, when you spend more than any promoted club in history, are defining for our future.
Ashton wouldn’t be here if the owners didn’t need continuity.
Now he has to fix his mess.., and player sales are part of that.
We can’t service the amortised liabilities if spending £100-150 million over 4 years on EFL revenue, it’s not possible.
We’ll sell over £70 million worth of players and reduce those liabilities, banking profits if we can, but losses if we need to, to get those liabilities off the books.
It’s a mess of our own making.
Supporters still just clinging on to the clubs made up nonsense because it feels good, doesn’t help.
At least with some honesty, as much as it’s not ideal, we can start to dream again!!!
This time maybe we can focus on the off the field requirements at based level, and being actually best in class, not EFL level.
There’s a huge amount to be positive about…, if we can get new owners who are football people, and understand what elite looks like.
Omari .., be thankful we had him, an absolute joy to watch, and he’s, we had a chance with him and Delap to build something beautiful, they are THAT good.
But we blew it.
And you clapped every Ashton mistake too.., no finger pointing.., we needed agency, and we got mostly looking the other way to bad decision after bad decision after bad decision.
It’s still true today.
The size of last years failures was spectacular, it wasn’t a minor setback.
We need new owners and a totally new direction now.
The owners, many staff, and many players, have lost faith in our project.
If that isn’t definitive (the closest people to Ashton and McKenna) I don’t know what is. |
Have you bothered to do even the slightest bit of research on the absolute bollards you have written? | | | |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 11:02 - Jul 10 with 705 views | HighgateBlue |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 09:12 - Jul 10 by Leaky |
To be fair I think Chelsea bought Delap to stockpile him, as they thought £30m was a cheap option & one they could turn a profit on. He's going to have a fight on his hands to become first choice striker now they have signed Pedro. [Post edited 10 Jul 9:17]
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Hopefully he becomes disillusioned with his lack of first team football and is available on the cheap, or for loan, when we're re-promoted. | | | |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 11:08 - Jul 10 with 677 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:40 - Jul 10 by darkhorse28 |
I think the frustration is, Omari is 100% going. Even if he didn’t want to, WE need him to (the owners).
We ARE up for sale, we DID spend up to £100 million and we DID make our manager one of the best paid in Europe.
We rolled the dice, it didn’t work…, pretending it’s a long term project, and we are ‘building’ doesn’t fit what actually happened.
We spent an eye watering sum of money, didn’t get very good value, and got horrific outcomes .
These are the consequences.., we can lose part of £20 million liabilities over the next 3 years and boom a £15 million profit or £10 million at least, and that’s 100% why he’s going.
Ni it’s and no buts. Gone. And he’ll play at a higher level and want to leave for that alone, he didn’t want 50 games at this level anyway, and he does deserve better.
I think the frustration is, even after the owners have laid it out.., in black and white plain English, there are still fans clinging on to the emotion and dream they invested in, for dear life.
They can’t separate their ego, the club, and what they bought into from the facts and the evidence.
If we’d spent £50 million, the owners wouldn’t be selling up.
We spent what could still reach closer to £150 million.., on the promise that it would guarantee staying up (as much as it could)
The owners got it wrong.., the bought in to Ashton specifically and that narrative, that McKenna was the real deal.
Last season, he 100% wasn’t, and the financial consequences alone, when you spend more than any promoted club in history, are defining for our future.
Ashton wouldn’t be here if the owners didn’t need continuity.
Now he has to fix his mess.., and player sales are part of that.
We can’t service the amortised liabilities if spending £100-150 million over 4 years on EFL revenue, it’s not possible.
We’ll sell over £70 million worth of players and reduce those liabilities, banking profits if we can, but losses if we need to, to get those liabilities off the books.
It’s a mess of our own making.
Supporters still just clinging on to the clubs made up nonsense because it feels good, doesn’t help.
At least with some honesty, as much as it’s not ideal, we can start to dream again!!!
This time maybe we can focus on the off the field requirements at based level, and being actually best in class, not EFL level.
There’s a huge amount to be positive about…, if we can get new owners who are football people, and understand what elite looks like.
Omari .., be thankful we had him, an absolute joy to watch, and he’s, we had a chance with him and Delap to build something beautiful, they are THAT good.
But we blew it.
And you clapped every Ashton mistake too.., no finger pointing.., we needed agency, and we got mostly looking the other way to bad decision after bad decision after bad decision.
It’s still true today.
The size of last years failures was spectacular, it wasn’t a minor setback.
We need new owners and a totally new direction now.
The owners, many staff, and many players, have lost faith in our project.
If that isn’t definitive (the closest people to Ashton and McKenna) I don’t know what is. |
So much nonsense in here.
We are not obliged to sell anyone. A season in thr PL plus parachute payments this year, not an issue.
We are not up for sale. Thats factually incorrect.
We didn't spend eye watering amounts. Its already been stated we didn't go nuclear by Ashton.
This is delusional.
On the ball city hey.... [Post edited 10 Jul 11:14]
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| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 11:11 - Jul 10 with 668 views | SomethingBlue |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:40 - Jul 10 by darkhorse28 |
I think the frustration is, Omari is 100% going. Even if he didn’t want to, WE need him to (the owners).
We ARE up for sale, we DID spend up to £100 million and we DID make our manager one of the best paid in Europe.
We rolled the dice, it didn’t work…, pretending it’s a long term project, and we are ‘building’ doesn’t fit what actually happened.
We spent an eye watering sum of money, didn’t get very good value, and got horrific outcomes .
These are the consequences.., we can lose part of £20 million liabilities over the next 3 years and boom a £15 million profit or £10 million at least, and that’s 100% why he’s going.
Ni it’s and no buts. Gone. And he’ll play at a higher level and want to leave for that alone, he didn’t want 50 games at this level anyway, and he does deserve better.
I think the frustration is, even after the owners have laid it out.., in black and white plain English, there are still fans clinging on to the emotion and dream they invested in, for dear life.
They can’t separate their ego, the club, and what they bought into from the facts and the evidence.
If we’d spent £50 million, the owners wouldn’t be selling up.
We spent what could still reach closer to £150 million.., on the promise that it would guarantee staying up (as much as it could)
The owners got it wrong.., the bought in to Ashton specifically and that narrative, that McKenna was the real deal.
Last season, he 100% wasn’t, and the financial consequences alone, when you spend more than any promoted club in history, are defining for our future.
Ashton wouldn’t be here if the owners didn’t need continuity.
Now he has to fix his mess.., and player sales are part of that.
We can’t service the amortised liabilities if spending £100-150 million over 4 years on EFL revenue, it’s not possible.
We’ll sell over £70 million worth of players and reduce those liabilities, banking profits if we can, but losses if we need to, to get those liabilities off the books.
It’s a mess of our own making.
Supporters still just clinging on to the clubs made up nonsense because it feels good, doesn’t help.
At least with some honesty, as much as it’s not ideal, we can start to dream again!!!
This time maybe we can focus on the off the field requirements at based level, and being actually best in class, not EFL level.
There’s a huge amount to be positive about…, if we can get new owners who are football people, and understand what elite looks like.
Omari .., be thankful we had him, an absolute joy to watch, and he’s, we had a chance with him and Delap to build something beautiful, they are THAT good.
But we blew it.
And you clapped every Ashton mistake too.., no finger pointing.., we needed agency, and we got mostly looking the other way to bad decision after bad decision after bad decision.
It’s still true today.
The size of last years failures was spectacular, it wasn’t a minor setback.
We need new owners and a totally new direction now.
The owners, many staff, and many players, have lost faith in our project.
If that isn’t definitive (the closest people to Ashton and McKenna) I don’t know what is. |
1/10, and the 1 is for taking the time. | |
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| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 11:13 - Jul 10 with 657 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 08:20 - Jul 10 by NthQldITFC |
If we all admit it and set up a rota to polish your crown... will you shut up about it then?  |
IF he goes…. You lot owe me HUGE apologies! | |
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| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 11:15 - Jul 10 with 654 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:58 - Jul 10 by baxterbasics |
I think we're all reading too much into this £100m thing. It's a potential, 'up to' - not necessarily a target. |
Oi!
What do you mean “we’re”?
About 15% read that yesterday, misinterpreted the whole thing and then Jizzed in their pants, “I knew those Americans couldn’t be trusted” | |
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| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 11:48 - Jul 10 with 608 views | Tractor_Boy333 |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 08:47 - Jul 10 by BarcaBlue |
Have you considered that footballers are just like the majority of the population who want to better themselves by earning more and working at the top level possible? Delap has far more chance of playing for England at Chelsea than he ever would in the Championship. Omari would start every game for any team outside the PL but it doesn't mean he should give up on playing there. These are confident and ambitious young men and are unlikely to be solely motivated by minutes in the Champ. |
Yes of course be considered that but I’m grasping at straws trying to find a justification for him staying.
Watching him last season he struggled at times. Lots of room for improvement and having a good U21 tournament will not guarantee a big offer. West Ham who are linked have Summerville and he didn’t get much game time last season so would they also risk taking Omari. I just don’t think it’s 100% he’ll leave and of course want him to stay. | | | |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 11:50 - Jul 10 with 599 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 11:13 - Jul 10 by Wallingford_Boy |
IF he goes…. You lot owe me HUGE apologies! |
No. Becaues everyone else (bar the budgie) is taking a sensible approach and saying he might he might not and IF HE does its becaues his release clause is triggered in which case its beyond the club's control.
No one is saying he definitely won't. You on the other hand d are saying he definitely will.
So if he goes for the release clauses £35 million plus will you accept that club could not do any more to keep him and ultimately didn't want to sell?
If he stays will you hold your hands up? | |
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| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 11:59 - Jul 10 with 559 views | BarcaBlue |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 11:48 - Jul 10 by Tractor_Boy333 |
Yes of course be considered that but I’m grasping at straws trying to find a justification for him staying.
Watching him last season he struggled at times. Lots of room for improvement and having a good U21 tournament will not guarantee a big offer. West Ham who are linked have Summerville and he didn’t get much game time last season so would they also risk taking Omari. I just don’t think it’s 100% he’ll leave and of course want him to stay. |
I don't think it's a nailed on certainty that he'll leave either. If the reported 35 million fee is true it'll put off a lot of clubs I'd imagine. Even going to somewhere like Dortmund would be risky for the buying club. The interest is inevitable, he's a top top prospect and now with some top level experience. | | | |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 12:04 - Jul 10 with 531 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 11:13 - Jul 10 by Wallingford_Boy |
IF he goes…. You lot owe me HUGE apologies! |
Why? Has anyone said he's definitely not going? Whereas your language says he's definitely going.
All most people are say is that there is no evidence that he's on the way out the door right now. Let's not will our best players out the door, but wait and see what develops. | | | |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 12:04 - Jul 10 with 532 views | itfcsuth |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 10:58 - Jul 10 by baxterbasics |
I think we're all reading too much into this £100m thing. It's a potential, 'up to' - not necessarily a target. |
It was a bit more of a tongue and cheek post than reality.
A £100m+ target for this summer seems a rather ambitious target, even with Delap and Omari sales, around £60m-£65m, would still leave a £35m hole.
I'm not sure we currently have enough desirable and sellable assets to bridge to get to that figure, unless everybody went out the door. | | | |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 12:05 - Jul 10 with 523 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Assuming Hutch goes (and he clearly will) on 11:59 - Jul 10 by BarcaBlue |
I don't think it's a nailed on certainty that he'll leave either. If the reported 35 million fee is true it'll put off a lot of clubs I'd imagine. Even going to somewhere like Dortmund would be risky for the buying club. The interest is inevitable, he's a top top prospect and now with some top level experience. |
Will 35 mill put teams off? Chelsea for example have technically earned back what they'd paid out on delap and Pedro in the space of 2 weeks. |  |
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