| Brentford bid rejected; Omari keen on Brentford 10:01 - Jul 16 with 4511 views | Chris_ITFC |
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| Brentford bid rejected on 10:02 - Jul 16 with 3620 views | Kieran_Knows |
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| Brentford bid rejected on 10:05 - Jul 16 with 3475 views | Chris_ITFC |
Omari keen… | |
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| Brentford bid rejected on 10:07 - Jul 16 with 3337 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:05 - Jul 16 by Chris_ITFC |
Omari keen… |
Depends how keen though. I am sure he would be open to the move but we know the relationship/bond he has with McKenna and I don't think he is someone that downs tools. I think we are negotiating from a real position of strength personally (including financially) and any deal will have to be completely on our terms with no wiggle room. I love that we have set our stall out and stuck to our guns. [Post edited 16 Jul 10:08]
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| Brentford bid rejected on 10:09 - Jul 16 with 3237 views | trncbluearmy |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:05 - Jul 16 by Chris_ITFC |
Omari keen… |
So says the agent
Pinch of salt comes to mind |  | | |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:10 - Jul 16 with 3192 views | baxterbasics |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:05 - Jul 16 by Chris_ITFC |
Omari keen… |
Hopefully more "keen-ish" than ready to bite their hand off. |  |
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| Brentford bid rejected on 10:14 - Jul 16 with 3078 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:09 - Jul 16 by trncbluearmy |
So says the agent
Pinch of salt comes to mind |
Eyeing up his commission no doubt! | |
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| Brentford bid rejected on 10:17 - Jul 16 with 3016 views | SitfcB |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:05 - Jul 16 by Chris_ITFC |
Omari keen… |
Just don’t know why in the current climate you’d go to Brentford.
Swapping McKenna for Andrews. Not for me.Big season for Brentford and won’t be a surprise to see them struggle.
Stay here another season, even half, and could have his pick of the top clubs. |  |
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| Brentford bid rejected on 10:24 - Jul 16 with 2853 views | Guthrum |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:17 - Jul 16 by SitfcB |
Just don’t know why in the current climate you’d go to Brentford.
Swapping McKenna for Andrews. Not for me.Big season for Brentford and won’t be a surprise to see them struggle.
Stay here another season, even half, and could have his pick of the top clubs. |
One word - Prem.
Plus he may have the chance to be the outstanding player in an underperforming team and thus get an even better move in January or next summer.
Won't do his England ambitions any harm, either. |  |
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| Brentford bid rejected on 10:25 - Jul 16 with 2835 views | tonybied |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:17 - Jul 16 by SitfcB |
Just don’t know why in the current climate you’d go to Brentford.
Swapping McKenna for Andrews. Not for me.Big season for Brentford and won’t be a surprise to see them struggle.
Stay here another season, even half, and could have his pick of the top clubs. |
Or he could end up injured and lose his chance. He gets another year of Prem exposure at Brentford, and if he starts showing more of the form he's showed recently in the U21s, he a step closer to the England team and a move to a bigger club. |  | | |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:28 - Jul 16 with 2754 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:17 - Jul 16 by SitfcB |
Just don’t know why in the current climate you’d go to Brentford.
Swapping McKenna for Andrews. Not for me.Big season for Brentford and won’t be a surprise to see them struggle.
Stay here another season, even half, and could have his pick of the top clubs. |
Premier League… but hopefully helps us convince him. Manager, captain, likely 1 and maybe 2 of their top scorers all leaving.
New contract essential though - Brentford have proved he’s worth £35m now, and if he lights up the Championship, that might seem even better value for clubs next summer. | |
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| Brentford bid rejected on 10:29 - Jul 16 with 2738 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:17 - Jul 16 by SitfcB |
Just don’t know why in the current climate you’d go to Brentford.
Swapping McKenna for Andrews. Not for me.Big season for Brentford and won’t be a surprise to see them struggle.
Stay here another season, even half, and could have his pick of the top clubs. |
Don’t forget, he’s probably just had a 30-50% pay cut too. | |
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| Brentford bid rejected; Omari keen on Brentford on 10:32 - Jul 16 with 2655 views | norfsufblue |
Read all the views but at least we now have a player on a long contract and now hold most of the cards should othes want to buy him.... i wonder if Delap's clause had a similar expiry date? |  | | |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:36 - Jul 16 with 2553 views | NedPlimpton |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:17 - Jul 16 by SitfcB |
Just don’t know why in the current climate you’d go to Brentford.
Swapping McKenna for Andrews. Not for me.Big season for Brentford and won’t be a surprise to see them struggle.
Stay here another season, even half, and could have his pick of the top clubs. |
I think you're seeing this through very blue-tinted specs
He'll be 22 in Oct, and still playing championship football.
Brentford will be offering premier league wages, the opportunity to play week-in week-out n the 'best league in the world', a greater chance of an England call up, greater exposure to get a move to a bigger club etc
Regardless of how appealing it is playing for McKenna, the only thing we're really offering is the potential for a quick return to the league he was playing in last season |  | | |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:37 - Jul 16 with 2517 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:36 - Jul 16 by NedPlimpton |
I think you're seeing this through very blue-tinted specs
He'll be 22 in Oct, and still playing championship football.
Brentford will be offering premier league wages, the opportunity to play week-in week-out n the 'best league in the world', a greater chance of an England call up, greater exposure to get a move to a bigger club etc
Regardless of how appealing it is playing for McKenna, the only thing we're really offering is the potential for a quick return to the league he was playing in last season |
Fabio Carvalho thought he would be playing week in, week out as well last season I reckon. | | | |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:38 - Jul 16 with 2487 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:24 - Jul 16 by Guthrum |
One word - Prem.
Plus he may have the chance to be the outstanding player in an underperforming team and thus get an even better move in January or next summer.
Won't do his England ambitions any harm, either. |
Depends as well if his wages were halved (or whatever it was) on our relegation.
Brentford would obviously pay PL wages, but a club going through a lot of upheaval and we could pass him on the way back up. |  | | |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:43 - Jul 16 with 2393 views | SitfcB |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:29 - Jul 16 by Chris_ITFC |
Don’t forget, he’s probably just had a 30-50% pay cut too. |
Offer him new terms ala O’Shea. | |
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| Brentford bid rejected on 10:44 - Jul 16 with 2362 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:36 - Jul 16 by NedPlimpton |
I think you're seeing this through very blue-tinted specs
He'll be 22 in Oct, and still playing championship football.
Brentford will be offering premier league wages, the opportunity to play week-in week-out n the 'best league in the world', a greater chance of an England call up, greater exposure to get a move to a bigger club etc
Regardless of how appealing it is playing for McKenna, the only thing we're really offering is the potential for a quick return to the league he was playing in last season |
Sadly for us, you can't base your career on a future 'what if' in January or whenever.
He could get injured tomorrow and never be the same again and the chance has gone etc.
If we get an acceptable offer, he will go. It's the model Ashton has always said we will operate and how we will have to comply with PSR. Buy potential, improve it and sell at the right time for the club. | | | |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:44 - Jul 16 with 2355 views | NedPlimpton |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:37 - Jul 16 by tractorboy1978 |
Fabio Carvalho thought he would be playing week in, week out as well last season I reckon. |
Probably, but that's on him and his performances
If Omari didn't perform here he wouldn't start every match | | | |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:47 - Jul 16 with 2277 views | Guthrum |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:38 - Jul 16 by ElderGrizzly |
Depends as well if his wages were halved (or whatever it was) on our relegation.
Brentford would obviously pay PL wages, but a club going through a lot of upheaval and we could pass him on the way back up. |
In which case, we re-sign him for whatever discount our sell-on clause is!  | |
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| Brentford bid rejected on 10:50 - Jul 16 with 2158 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:43 - Jul 16 by SitfcB |
Offer him new terms ala O’Shea. |
Totally agree.
May be essential depending on the release clause terms. I wonder if it kicks back in at the start of every window (i.e. it expired due to proximity to the season), or it goes up next window, or doesn’t exist in any form at all now. | |
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| Brentford bid rejected; Omari keen on Brentford on 10:52 - Jul 16 with 2122 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Brentford bid rejected; Omari keen on Brentford on 10:32 - Jul 16 by norfsufblue |
Read all the views but at least we now have a player on a long contract and now hold most of the cards should othes want to buy him.... i wonder if Delap's clause had a similar expiry date? |
Maybe, but he turned out to be far too cheap at that price for it to have got this far. | |
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| Brentford bid rejected on 10:53 - Jul 16 with 2092 views | nrb1985 |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:37 - Jul 16 by tractorboy1978 |
Fabio Carvalho thought he would be playing week in, week out as well last season I reckon. |
And Summerville...
I actually think Sitters is right. Normally I'd struggle to find genuine reasons for why somebody would want to stay with us in the Champ vs. a PL move.
However, Andrews is a total unknown quantity and there's a real risk he's gone by Autumn if they're not off to a good start. Add to that two of their best players have gone already and a third likely. You'd have to think in those conditions he might find it hard (er) to shine and get the exposure he wants. I can't see a huge upside for him personally here aside from the money.
Arguably he's better off starting the season here under KM in (hopefully) a winning side and seeing if Forest, Fulham or similar come for him in Jan. [Post edited 16 Jul 10:54]
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| Brentford bid rejected on 10:56 - Jul 16 with 2003 views | Chris_ITFC |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:53 - Jul 16 by nrb1985 |
And Summerville...
I actually think Sitters is right. Normally I'd struggle to find genuine reasons for why somebody would want to stay with us in the Champ vs. a PL move.
However, Andrews is a total unknown quantity and there's a real risk he's gone by Autumn if they're not off to a good start. Add to that two of their best players have gone already and a third likely. You'd have to think in those conditions he might find it hard (er) to shine and get the exposure he wants. I can't see a huge upside for him personally here aside from the money.
Arguably he's better off starting the season here under KM in (hopefully) a winning side and seeing if Forest, Fulham or similar come for him in Jan. [Post edited 16 Jul 10:54]
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It basically will come down to money, and if we can tempt him with an offer. He’ll expect to be a top earner now, given his ability versus the squad.
That’s also quite a pessimistic view.
He’s a guy who believes in himself MASSIVELY. The optimistic view is he could be at the World Cup next summer with a good Premier League season. | |
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| Brentford bid rejected on 11:12 - Jul 16 with 1724 views | nrb1985 |
| Brentford bid rejected on 10:56 - Jul 16 by Chris_ITFC |
It basically will come down to money, and if we can tempt him with an offer. He’ll expect to be a top earner now, given his ability versus the squad.
That’s also quite a pessimistic view.
He’s a guy who believes in himself MASSIVELY. The optimistic view is he could be at the World Cup next summer with a good Premier League season. |
Not sure it's pessimistic, more objectively setting out the facts.
I'm certain the others mentioned (Summerville and Carvalho) also MASSIVELY believed in themselves too.
And, as much as I rate Omari, and I really do, wildly optimistic to think he'd be in the running for the WC with one good season in the PL when Bowen and Madueke can't even get a few mins here or there.
Let alone he needs to get past Saka, Palmer and Foden who also play his position. [Post edited 16 Jul 11:13]
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