| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature 13:51 - Jul 18 with 3328 views | MaySixth |
a non-league fanbase on steroids, fattened by relative success and all the passion of an obese Reform voter
they have just pocketed £65m straight
they are just taking the p**s if they keep offering Hutch fee in instalments
we must hold firm [Post edited 18 Jul 13:53]
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| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 20:33 - Jul 18 with 636 views | itfc_bucks |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 14:04 - Jul 18 by Herbivore |
Let's not get snooty about Brentford. They've got a decent fan base that doesn't seem to have forgotten where they've come from, and while they had a bit of investment to get them up to the Prem, they've generally done things the right way and not been pumped full of dodgy Russian money like plucky little Bournemouth, for example. They've had a good few years in the Prem and have a good record at developing talent. [Post edited 18 Jul 16:38]
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A good record of developing talent - apart from when they closed down their academy and then only reopened it because the EPL made them. |  | | |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 20:51 - Jul 18 with 604 views | WeWereZombies |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 20:02 - Jul 18 by billlm |
He's crazy if he goes there now franks gone, |
I was wondering earlier if there will be an element of 'Is Keith Andrews the right coach to push me on in my career like McKenna has done?' to the decision Omari will face if a bid comes in and is accepted. The set up is different at Brentford with team management taken away from the coach but Omari (or his watchful Dad) may know of people at a West London club who could help him, or maybe there isn't anybody he would be that sure of. But that leads on to wondering what clubs he would consider in preference, and Maresca at Chelsea, with Madueke gone, is a concern. |  |
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| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 21:33 - Jul 18 with 544 views | farkenhell |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 20:33 - Jul 18 by itfc_bucks |
A good record of developing talent - apart from when they closed down their academy and then only reopened it because the EPL made them. |
Years ago, (I think even before they were promoted to the PL) they made the decision to ditch their academy and instead focus on picking up, developing and ultimately selling players who had been released by other academies. Being London based certainly helped them with that. Don't knock that decision, it clearly worked for Brentford and provided them with the springboard to expand that model to buy, develop and sell young talent from the UK lower leagues and abroad. It's player trading at its finest and, to be honest, it should be admired. | | | |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 22:35 - Jul 18 with 507 views | bournemouthblue |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 21:33 - Jul 18 by farkenhell |
Years ago, (I think even before they were promoted to the PL) they made the decision to ditch their academy and instead focus on picking up, developing and ultimately selling players who had been released by other academies. Being London based certainly helped them with that. Don't knock that decision, it clearly worked for Brentford and provided them with the springboard to expand that model to buy, develop and sell young talent from the UK lower leagues and abroad. It's player trading at its finest and, to be honest, it should be admired. |
They and Brighton have outmaneuvered far bigger clubs than themselves in that regard |  |
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| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 22:37 - Jul 18 with 504 views | Herbivore |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 20:33 - Jul 18 by itfc_bucks |
A good record of developing talent - apart from when they closed down their academy and then only reopened it because the EPL made them. |
Bit of a weird comment. There's more than one way to skin a cat, having a youth set up wasn't working for them, they went down the route of buying young talent on the cheap and developing them and it worked for them. |  |
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| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 22:42 - Jul 18 with 492 views | farkenhell |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 22:35 - Jul 18 by bournemouthblue |
They and Brighton have outmaneuvered far bigger clubs than themselves in that regard |
Absolutely. Whilst both clubs were implementing a clear strategy, we were bumbling along with the club in a state of neglect. It's no coincidence that they went North whilst we went South. | | | |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 22:43 - Jul 18 with 492 views | Swailsey |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 22:37 - Jul 18 by Herbivore |
Bit of a weird comment. There's more than one way to skin a cat, having a youth set up wasn't working for them, they went down the route of buying young talent on the cheap and developing them and it worked for them. |
Yep |  |
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| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 23:51 - Jul 18 with 422 views | NewBee |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 20:33 - Jul 18 by itfc_bucks |
A good record of developing talent - apart from when they closed down their academy and then only reopened it because the EPL made them. |
Not the full story.
In 2012, when BFC were in League One, they opened a Category 2 Academy, one of only two operating at that level below the Championship. They spent a ton of money on it, including building a £1m+ Training Centre at a local college, where the Academy boys were getting their education.
Then 3(?) years later, the PL bunged the EFL a measly few quid, in return for imposing a rule which now limited transfer fees for Academy players to a £50k cap. BFC then lost two of their best prospects to Man City and Liverpool for £100k, when they might reasonably have expected 5 or 10 times that amount prior to the rule change.
So the owner decided he wasn't going to spend serious money just to produce players for the PL big boys, and closed the Academy. (The college got to keep its shny new Centre).
Instead, the club came up with the new concept of a "B" team (not Reserve or U-21), to take players who had been released by top Academies at 18, who they reckoned were released prematurely and might still do a good job id given more time. This initiative has proven successful, eventually being copied by a number of other clubs.
Then when they got promoted to the PL, they reinstated their Academy, having (I think) to start at a lower Category, but since risen to Cat.2 This was partly because it is a PL Rule that clubs must have an Academy i.e. I'm not sure that it has to be as high as Cat.2?
Anyhow, afaik they were more influenced by it being a UEFA requirement if they were to play in Europe, which reflects the club's long term planning and ambition. Meanwhile, the club has also spent a packet in upgrading their Training Ground, which will be used by the Academy, as well as the rest of the club's teams:
https://www.brentfordfc.com/en/news/article/club-news-brentford-begins-construct | | | |
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| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 04:40 - Jul 19 with 339 views | Benters |
I think you have a valid point but also coming across a bit silly.
Brentford are a decent club and I’ve always enjoyed my away day there. |  |
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| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 06:51 - Jul 19 with 277 views | WeirdFishes |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 04:40 - Jul 19 by Benters |
I think you have a valid point but also coming across a bit silly.
Brentford are a decent club and I’ve always enjoyed my away day there. |
Brentford are a proper club, glad to see them continue to do well.
Do I think it’s the best move for Omari? Not now Frank is gone and they’re seemingly being dismantled. |  |
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| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 06:55 - Jul 19 with 276 views | MK1 |
Strange analysis of a football club that has more than held their own in the top flight of the hardest league in world football. If they continue to sell their best players, then they may struggle this season, but they are not "outperforming their overall stature".
Their fan base is very much community led, like ourselves, and have been with them for many, many years.
Jealousy is an ugly form. |  |
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| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 07:12 - Jul 19 with 256 views | Churchman |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 06:51 - Jul 19 by WeirdFishes |
Brentford are a proper club, glad to see them continue to do well.
Do I think it’s the best move for Omari? Not now Frank is gone and they’re seemingly being dismantled. |
Yes, Frank did a great job for them, but he did it within a very sound club structure. Like Brighton the successor will just carry on. They’ll be ok and while they may not be as strong as last season, they’ll finish well above the dross zone.
This is not Ipswich Town of the past - a club with no resources, decaying facilities and totally reliant on the manager. Also to compound it a club that under Evans that selected, bar Mick, rubbish managers. Brentford are organised, established and won’t be ‘winging it’ as it felt we were doing last season and now to an extent.
I think Brentford will do just fine and it’s a good next step for Omari in an area he knows and is comfortable with. A season or two there and at 23/24 I can easily see him at an Arsenal or a Spurs. |  | | |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 10:28 - Jul 19 with 142 views | billlm |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 20:51 - Jul 18 by WeWereZombies |
I was wondering earlier if there will be an element of 'Is Keith Andrews the right coach to push me on in my career like McKenna has done?' to the decision Omari will face if a bid comes in and is accepted. The set up is different at Brentford with team management taken away from the coach but Omari (or his watchful Dad) may know of people at a West London club who could help him, or maybe there isn't anybody he would be that sure of. But that leads on to wondering what clubs he would consider in preference, and Maresca at Chelsea, with Madueke gone, is a concern. |
I can see Brentford struggling with the upheavels,
Moyes is a good man manager maybe Everton but he may not want to go north, |  | | |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 10:43 - Jul 19 with 124 views | farkenhell |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 23:51 - Jul 18 by NewBee |
Not the full story.
In 2012, when BFC were in League One, they opened a Category 2 Academy, one of only two operating at that level below the Championship. They spent a ton of money on it, including building a £1m+ Training Centre at a local college, where the Academy boys were getting their education.
Then 3(?) years later, the PL bunged the EFL a measly few quid, in return for imposing a rule which now limited transfer fees for Academy players to a £50k cap. BFC then lost two of their best prospects to Man City and Liverpool for £100k, when they might reasonably have expected 5 or 10 times that amount prior to the rule change.
So the owner decided he wasn't going to spend serious money just to produce players for the PL big boys, and closed the Academy. (The college got to keep its shny new Centre).
Instead, the club came up with the new concept of a "B" team (not Reserve or U-21), to take players who had been released by top Academies at 18, who they reckoned were released prematurely and might still do a good job id given more time. This initiative has proven successful, eventually being copied by a number of other clubs.
Then when they got promoted to the PL, they reinstated their Academy, having (I think) to start at a lower Category, but since risen to Cat.2 This was partly because it is a PL Rule that clubs must have an Academy i.e. I'm not sure that it has to be as high as Cat.2?
Anyhow, afaik they were more influenced by it being a UEFA requirement if they were to play in Europe, which reflects the club's long term planning and ambition. Meanwhile, the club has also spent a packet in upgrading their Training Ground, which will be used by the Academy, as well as the rest of the club's teams:
https://www.brentfordfc.com/en/news/article/club-news-brentford-begins-construct |
Add to that, they spent the money they would have had to spend to maintain the academy on setting up a comprehensive data-driven scouting network, which ultimately has proven to be extremely successful for them. Whilst other clubs, such as ours, are having to play catch-up.
Edit: just spotted your username. I presume you're actually a Brentford fan, in which case you'll know all of this of course! [Post edited 19 Jul 10:47]
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| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 10:54 - Jul 19 with 98 views | Churchman |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 04:40 - Jul 19 by Benters |
I think you have a valid point but also coming across a bit silly.
Brentford are a decent club and I’ve always enjoyed my away day there. |
The old ground had a pub on each corner. How could one not have a good day out there?? I did the few times I went (a mate was a Crewe Alex supporter). | | | |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 11:08 - Jul 19 with 60 views | burnbudgiesburn |
Before the best run of seasons in our history (1968-1986) Ipswich Town had exactly 3 seasons of top flight football.
I wonder if people were saying the same thing about us in the early to mid 1970's.... i'm sure some of the big clubs of the 30's and 40s who had fallen on hard times were looking at us with envy and thinking the same about us. | | | |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 11:36 - Jul 19 with 33 views | Benters |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 10:54 - Jul 19 by Churchman |
The old ground had a pub on each corner. How could one not have a good day out there?? I did the few times I went (a mate was a Crewe Alex supporter). |
Exactly much fun was had,although I used to walk a bit further on and sit in a pub garden or courtyard should I say and that seemed to be on the flight path into Heathrow.It was good to see the aircraft coming in to land if you like that kind of thing of course.
It was a home pub really but as long as you weren’t a tit and behaved yourself they seemed a good bunch and we got on ok with the Brentford fans.
That’s how it should be. | |
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| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 11:41 - Jul 19 with 16 views | GeoffSentence |
| Brentford, at their core, are a small club outperforming their overall stature on 14:01 - Jul 18 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
I guess we were a huge club that just spent two decades outside the top flight?
It really doesn’t matter, does it?
I’ll fix it for you. Brentford are an established Premier League club that will be able to afford GBP40M for Hutchinson. |
The OP has a somewhat arrogant air doesnt it?
When do they stop being a 'small' club? They've had four solid top tier mid table finishes, which is pretty much where we were in 71/72 |  |
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