| Ben Doak 15:23 - Jul 18 with 5918 views | IP1Blue |
Possible Omari replacement? Slightly cheaper and will no doubt have potential top level interest but could he be tempted if they don’t materialise? |  | | |  |
| Ben Doak on 16:44 - Jul 18 with 1953 views | rickw |
| Ben Doak on 15:26 - Jul 18 by monty_radio |
Given our wealth of wide-men / no 10s , and our dearth of credible midfielder behind them, do we, at this stage, even need an Omari replacement? What do others think? |
I don't think we need anyone we still have:
AML: Clarke, Broadhead, Philogene
AMC: Szmodics, Chaplin, Broadhead
AMR: Ogbene, Burns, Philogene
All of above have already proved they can do it in the Championship, also Taylor and Humphries can both play AMC and Johnson played MR for us quite a bit last season.
I would concentrate on getting 2 top CM's and a ST to challenge Hirst (maybe a young 3rd choice ST too) and if any can also play right wing then even better! |  |
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| Ben Doak on 16:45 - Jul 18 with 1940 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| Ben Doak on 16:03 - Jul 18 by jayessess |
3 GKs
8 Defenders
5 Midfielders
8 Forwards
3 Strikers
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I'd guess we need some U21s somewhere... [Post edited 18 Jul 16:23]
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The U21 should be the Hutch replacement - don’t think we will have a like for like replacement in experience, but we might look to repeat the previous trick | | | |
| Ben Doak on 16:51 - Jul 18 with 1875 views | Blue_Heath |
| Ben Doak on 15:26 - Jul 18 by monty_radio |
Given our wealth of wide-men / no 10s , and our dearth of credible midfielder behind them, do we, at this stage, even need an Omari replacement? What do others think? |
Inclined to agree to be honest would rather get another top striker and midfielder for £15-20m each. | | | |
| Ben Doak on 17:04 - Jul 18 with 1792 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Ben Doak on 15:26 - Jul 18 by monty_radio |
Given our wealth of wide-men / no 10s , and our dearth of credible midfielder behind them, do we, at this stage, even need an Omari replacement? What do others think? |
I'm sure we will replace him but its less of a priority than a #9 or midfield reinforcements for me.
If anything it hands Philogene the chance he's been waiting for. He can play off the right and has done many times, give him that role and let him make it his own I say. Ogbene is fit again as well, Burns to come back and Johnson potentially for a more defensively minded option. Same on the left with Clarke, he's had to bide his time but give him that shirt and let him cement a place. Arguably we've got 2 of the best wide players at this level over the last few seasons. Broady the GOAT rotating in.
Its more the central 10 position we're short. Be interesting to see where we use Szmodics, maybe the left as well but that doesn't necessarily give Clarke his chance. Chaplin is another good option but we're a bit short for me.
Maybe I'm really reaching for positives with Omari going but it could be the chance Philogene and subsequently Clarke have been waiting for to step out of his shadow a little bit. |  | | |
| Ben Doak on 17:09 - Jul 18 with 1744 views | BloomBlue |
McAtee seems to be valued at the same price as Doak Personally I think he would be a better option as he can play midfield or winger. However I think our chances of getting him are very low as a few PL clubs appear interested |  | | |
| Ben Doak on 17:15 - Jul 18 with 1716 views | Pique |
| Ben Doak on 17:09 - Jul 18 by BloomBlue |
McAtee seems to be valued at the same price as Doak Personally I think he would be a better option as he can play midfield or winger. However I think our chances of getting him are very low as a few PL clubs appear interested |
Without wanting to be the voice of negativity, I just don't see the likes of McAtee, Doak and Harvey Elliott (as another example) heading for the Championship. If Omari Hutchinson is good enough for the Premier then they are too.
The likes of Forest, Palace and West Ham await for them I suspect. |  | | |
| Ben Doak on 17:19 - Jul 18 with 1644 views | FrimleyBlue |
IMO we are ok on the right
it's that floating 10 spot that's an issue, although we do have chappers and sammy, but chappers needs competition which hutch game him, ( altho i still prefer hutch as a wideman)
we need a champ but prem potential player like julio, no idea who that is though |  |
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| Ben Doak on 17:23 - Jul 18 with 1614 views | Pique |
| Ben Doak on 17:04 - Jul 18 by _clive_baker_ |
I'm sure we will replace him but its less of a priority than a #9 or midfield reinforcements for me.
If anything it hands Philogene the chance he's been waiting for. He can play off the right and has done many times, give him that role and let him make it his own I say. Ogbene is fit again as well, Burns to come back and Johnson potentially for a more defensively minded option. Same on the left with Clarke, he's had to bide his time but give him that shirt and let him cement a place. Arguably we've got 2 of the best wide players at this level over the last few seasons. Broady the GOAT rotating in.
Its more the central 10 position we're short. Be interesting to see where we use Szmodics, maybe the left as well but that doesn't necessarily give Clarke his chance. Chaplin is another good option but we're a bit short for me.
Maybe I'm really reaching for positives with Omari going but it could be the chance Philogene and subsequently Clarke have been waiting for to step out of his shadow a little bit. |
I've been slightly baffled by how we've used Szmodics at times. Wasn't he the top scorer in the Championship playing just off the central striker, a la Chaplin? Surely that's his position isn't it (in competition with Chaplin)? | | | |
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| Ben Doak on 17:24 - Jul 18 with 1597 views | itfcsuth |
| Ben Doak on 15:37 - Jul 18 by cressi |
Perfect if both 100% fit, one not up to speed and the other one out for weeks or months. |
Ogbene will be 100% fit for the start of the season - he’s completing a full pre season, Wes back 4/6 weeks after the season starts, plus Ben Johnson as a temporary option at RM/RW.
Wouldn’t be bringing in, using a slot up, the options are there, and throughout a season we have more than enough quality in that position.
2x CM, at least 1x ST the ultimate priority. |  | | |
| Ben Doak on 21:45 - Jul 18 with 1292 views | itfctilidie |
| Ben Doak on 16:06 - Jul 18 by southnorfolkblue |
Our 2 main RW options have massive question marks above their heads after major injuries. I love Wes but he’s had a string of significant injuries and may be he is one that needs to be moved on in favour of a younger more robust model |
Phillogene is a right winger.
Adding to this to in response to other posts Szmodics is best as an attacking midfielder. Jack Clarke is a left winger. |  | | |
| Ben Doak on 23:43 - Jul 18 with 1088 views | Libero |
| Ben Doak on 15:45 - Jul 18 by Big_Jase |
Ogbene coming back of a long term injury and Burns not back till Christmas.
We need another right winger/right 10
Jaden, Broadhead & Clarke are all left sided players. Broadhead is likely to move on as well this summer. |
Clarke started his career playing on the right for Leeds. |  | | |
| Ben Doak on 06:19 - Jul 19 with 942 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
I think we are probably ok and as others have said it gives a chance for Philogene, Clarke etc to shine, and with the more experienced players we have returning from injury, we probably have enough in the building already.
But........we know McKenna loves his attacking line players, and loves to switch them all at 60-65 minutes. A further reason is that MA and the ownership have been clear all along that player trading is how we will be financially sustainable. To do that successfully, you need to spread the net wide, and (especially in the seasons you are not in the Prem), you are gonna have to sell your best 2 or 3 players. So to do that we need to cast the net again.
My preferred attacker for the right side is Tom Fellows. He's cheaper than Doak (who hasn't played since January) and is playing for England U21s. WBA connection for Ashton as well. Fantastic player, with a huge upside, no injury record, gets goals and assists. More physical than Omari. If Omari goes for close to 40 the profit would cover the cost of Fellows. [Post edited 19 Jul 6:20]
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| Ben Doak on 07:00 - Jul 19 with 853 views | MK1 |
Hutchinson will not need replacing if we sell. We are over loaded in wide and 10 positions.
Ogbene, Burns, Philogene, Szmodics, Chaplin, Clarke, Broadhead. 7 for 3 slots is plenty.
MIDFIELD is the area that needs attention. At least 2 starters required ASAP. |  |
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| Ben Doak on 07:19 - Jul 19 with 805 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Ben Doak on 07:00 - Jul 19 by MK1 |
Hutchinson will not need replacing if we sell. We are over loaded in wide and 10 positions.
Ogbene, Burns, Philogene, Szmodics, Chaplin, Clarke, Broadhead. 7 for 3 slots is plenty.
MIDFIELD is the area that needs attention. At least 2 starters required ASAP. |
Well McKenna has generally worked with 9 players for those 3 positions and we’ve lost 2 of them since the end of last season and Ogbene and Burns are returning from long term injuries. That’s before anymore potential departures.
McKenna will 100% replace both Enciso and Hutchinson before the window is shut. |  |
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| Ben Doak on 07:21 - Jul 19 with 801 views | Len_Brennan |
| Ben Doak on 17:19 - Jul 18 by FrimleyBlue |
IMO we are ok on the right
it's that floating 10 spot that's an issue, although we do have chappers and sammy, but chappers needs competition which hutch game him, ( altho i still prefer hutch as a wideman)
we need a champ but prem potential player like julio, no idea who that is though |
I think this is right.
If we are recruiting in the hope/expectation of being back in the Premier League next season, we have to recognise the lack of physicality that we had in the attacking roles behind the centre forward.
Enciso may have been selfish in that he wasn't too interested in establishing good link up partnerships during a loan spell, but he absolutely brought a strength & drive that we were missing when trying to penetrate the opposition's penalty area. Our attacking forwards are too lightweight & were knocked off the ball, losing possession far too easily all season, so that has to be addressed.
Omari, for all his quality, tended to do his best work in beating opponents, & retaining possession, when he came deep into midfield, but even he struggled to break through the strong defensive lines of quality defenders, when he attacked the danger area.
Jack Clarke had started to be more effective in creating those openings & holding off challenges to retain possession (and will be all the better for it next time in the PL) but it was mainly Enciso, & of course Delap, that could trouble the back four & deep lying midfielder of those sides. We need to add an attacker with that type of physical profile. [Post edited 19 Jul 7:29]
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| Ben Doak on 07:28 - Jul 19 with 772 views | PioneerBlue |
Doesn’t Ben Doak have PL suitors? Plus he doesn’t meet the new physical specimen requires does he | |
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| Ben Doak on 08:44 - Jul 19 with 628 views | BondiBlue |
I'm semi-surprised that no-one has mentioned humphreys in this thread. He's a left-footed player who played very well as a 10 for wycombe last season. Chaplin, with better players around him this time around in the championship, will be more effective than last time out. Humphreys to come on for the last 30/rotate with him would be a bold move but i'd like to see it. Then go and spend the money on a top midfielder (hackney) and a top striker. | |
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| Ben Doak on 09:28 - Jul 19 with 538 views | BloomBlue |
| Ben Doak on 07:00 - Jul 19 by MK1 |
Hutchinson will not need replacing if we sell. We are over loaded in wide and 10 positions.
Ogbene, Burns, Philogene, Szmodics, Chaplin, Clarke, Broadhead. 7 for 3 slots is plenty.
MIDFIELD is the area that needs attention. At least 2 starters required ASAP. |
It makes me smile, last season when we purchased Philogene a good percentage of fans moaned we didnt need him as we're already overloaded in the 'winger' department. Now a good percentage moaning we must replace Hutch if he leaves because we'll be short in that area of the pitch. | | | |
| Ben Doak on 09:51 - Jul 19 with 461 views | darkhorse28 |
| Ben Doak on 15:27 - Jul 18 by Kieran_Knows |
100% we will need a replacement. |
We might. But funds are stretched and look how unbranded we are.
Sometimes we only play two 10’d but even if we play the usual 3 how many options do we have.
Taylor, Clarke, Philogene, Burns, Sammie,Humphreys (can play the 10), Chaplin, Ogbenne, Broadhead
That’s a lot of options.
Meanwhile. The crucial double pivot that McKenna has played EVERY game.
We have one new signing from France. Who has never kicked a ball for us.
VERY unbalanced - I think you’re right, we will sign another inside forward, but one more will need to go.
9 options in to 3 and 1 option in to 2 …., we need at least two CDMS first…., assuming Taylor doesn’t play there who looks very uncomfortable in that role. | | | |
| Ben Doak on 10:15 - Jul 19 with 364 views | Wakh |
| Ben Doak on 15:57 - Jul 18 by pointofblue |
Then we'll have to get rid of another winger/10 on top of Hutch, for registration reasons. |
Sure there are a few to go yet. That aside, two U21 loans/LTB iand hutch’s replacement being of the same mould and U21. There is more to come yet. | | | |
| Ben Doak on 10:23 - Jul 19 with 342 views | RichOBlue |
| Ben Doak on 15:27 - Jul 18 by Kieran_Knows |
100% we will need a replacement. |
I’d guess Humphrey’s is the replacement he played in the 10 all last season |  |
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| Ben Doak on 17:24 - Jul 19 with 201 views | BlueOsterClub |
| Ben Doak on 15:26 - Jul 18 by monty_radio |
Given our wealth of wide-men / no 10s , and our dearth of credible midfielder behind them, do we, at this stage, even need an Omari replacement? What do others think? |
I agree , we are well stocked in this area. Centre forward and centre midfielders are the priority. | | | |
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