| Ben Sheaf 12:01 - Jul 19 with 4653 views | Nutkins_Return |
Coventry are back in the market and closing in on a £3-4 mil new CM. Having added Grimes and having Eccles, Torp, Allen they are well stocked in there.
General feeling is Sheaf will move on this summer having not been allowed to leave last summer. Had an injury last season and his head was turned by our and other interest.
I'm convinced we will be back in and he's and absolutely ideal Luongo replacement. Proper rolls Royce in the champ. Great on the ball, brilliant in the track back tackle. Believe he can play Prem. Only downside is he tends to miss 10-15 games over a champ season with knocks because he plays the way he does.
For me he is just what we need wand will cost £7-10 mil now. They wanted £20 last summer. |  |
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| Ben Sheaf on 12:10 - Jul 19 with 4099 views | Wickets |
If I'm being honest I think we might have set our sights higher just hope we have not set it too high and end up struggling to get the required deals done ? But suppose we have to trust the clubs judgement. |  | | |
| Ben Sheaf on 12:16 - Jul 19 with 3974 views | billlm |
I think he's quite weak I'd say we've gone passed him, |  | | |
| Ben Sheaf on 12:33 - Jul 19 with 3772 views | cressi |
| Ben Sheaf on 12:16 - Jul 19 by billlm |
I think he's quite weak I'd say we've gone passed him, |
Harsh but last season missed lots of games often taken off when he did start. I think we are looking for better. | | | |
| Ben Sheaf on 12:35 - Jul 19 with 3738 views | _clive_baker_ |
He’s a very average championship midfielder in my book. I’d be underwhelmed if we dropped anything like that sort of money on him. |  | | |
| Ben Sheaf on 12:53 - Jul 19 with 3553 views | JeremiahBrown |
£20??? That's cheap!! | | | |
| Ben Sheaf on 13:00 - Jul 19 with 3411 views | Simonds92 |
Bang average championship midfielder imo. Doesn't excite me at all.
At 27, no chance of a profit on him either.
Jack Rudoni would be the one I'd look at from Coventry. | | | |
| Ben Sheaf on 13:12 - Jul 19 with 3269 views | cressi |
| Ben Sheaf on 13:00 - Jul 19 by Simonds92 |
Bang average championship midfielder imo. Doesn't excite me at all.
At 27, no chance of a profit on him either.
Jack Rudoni would be the one I'd look at from Coventry. |
Rudoni we should of when at Huddersfield not now they want 15 million and I don't believe his value will increase much a good championship player. | | | |
| Ben Sheaf on 13:15 - Jul 19 with 3198 views | Metal_Hacker |
Think we could and should do better if our intention is as explained this season |  |
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| Ben Sheaf on 13:49 - Jul 19 with 2851 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Ben Sheaf on 12:35 - Jul 19 by _clive_baker_ |
He’s a very average championship midfielder in my book. I’d be underwhelmed if we dropped anything like that sort of money on him. |
He absolutely isn't. I've seen him a lot live midlands. He's been one of the best championship midfielders over the last 3-4 years no doubt. He's outstanding at this level and confident he can step up.
Only way you could say average champ midfielder is if seen very very little of him. There is a reason they turned down. Big money last summer and wouldn't let go for less than £20 mil. [Post edited 19 Jul 18:38]
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| Ben Sheaf on 14:27 - Jul 19 with 2569 views | mellowblue |
No suprise that Frank likes a midfielder | | | |
| Ben Sheaf on 14:46 - Jul 19 with 2396 views | Kropotkin123 |
See him as more of a Morsy replacement. Put out excellent defensive stats the season we went up. When I thought the premiership was less of a step up I was very keen. But less so now. |  |
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| Ben Sheaf on 14:53 - Jul 19 with 2328 views | burnbudgiesburn |
| Ben Sheaf on 13:49 - Jul 19 by Nutkins_Return |
He absolutely isn't. I've seen him a lot live midlands. He's been one of the best championship midfielders over the last 3-4 years no doubt. He's outstanding at this level and confident he can step up.
Only way you could say average champ midfielder is if seen very very little of him. There is a reason they turned down. Big money last summer and wouldn't let go for less than £20 mil. [Post edited 19 Jul 18:38]
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I think he's a decent player and would not be averse to seeing him at Town, but in no world do I see us dropping £20m on a champ midfielder who will be 28 at the end of the season.
£7-10m is about right given his age. | | | |
| Ben Sheaf on 15:00 - Jul 19 with 2221 views | FrimleyBlue |
I see Hackney is starting today so whilst it doesn't mean much i think it's safe to say we won't be seeing him join this weekend. |  |
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| Ben Sheaf on 15:06 - Jul 19 with 2176 views | cressi |
| Ben Sheaf on 15:00 - Jul 19 by FrimleyBlue |
I see Hackney is starting today so whilst it doesn't mean much i think it's safe to say we won't be seeing him join this weekend. |
My fear with all our targets is we get over ambitious and are scratching around in the last week of the window hopefully this won't materialise. | | | |
| Ben Sheaf on 15:23 - Jul 19 with 2021 views | WestSussexBlue |
Pay in excess of £7 Million for a player that could miss a Quarter (10 games) a season??
Are you sure. | | | |
| Ben Sheaf on 15:25 - Jul 19 with 1997 views | Smoresy |
Wasn't impressed in the few games I saw of him last season and has suffered a lot with injuries - wonder if they're signing the new guy to play alongside or to displace him. | | | |
| Ben Sheaf on 15:47 - Jul 19 with 1812 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Ben Sheaf on 13:49 - Jul 19 by Nutkins_Return |
He absolutely isn't. I've seen him a lot live midlands. He's been one of the best championship midfielders over the last 3-4 years no doubt. He's outstanding at this level and confident he can step up.
Only way you could say average champ midfielder is if seen very very little of him. There is a reason they turned down. Big money last summer and wouldn't let go for less than £20 mil. [Post edited 19 Jul 18:38]
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Not for me Clive. I’ve seen a fair bit of him, he’s one of those who strikes me as a really solid player, good at a lot of things but I’m not convinced he’s great at any. I’d wager he’ll spend his career in the 2nd tier and there’s no shame in that, but not one for me that screams step up or premier league potential. | | | |
| Ben Sheaf on 15:57 - Jul 19 with 1725 views | Wickets |
| Ben Sheaf on 15:06 - Jul 19 by cressi |
My fear with all our targets is we get over ambitious and are scratching around in the last week of the window hopefully this won't materialise. |
I slightly share you fears but I think it's quite likely we have eyes on one or two loans we could turn too if necessary but of course that will not happen until after the season starts . | | | |
| Ben Sheaf on 16:05 - Jul 19 with 1655 views | tractordownsouth |
I like Sheaf but I'd prefer Jason Knight, if he's gettable. |  |
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| Ben Sheaf on 18:39 - Jul 19 with 1273 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Ben Sheaf on 14:53 - Jul 19 by burnbudgiesburn |
I think he's a decent player and would not be averse to seeing him at Town, but in no world do I see us dropping £20m on a champ midfielder who will be 28 at the end of the season.
£7-10m is about right given his age. |
That's what I said in OP. The £20 mil was what they wanted last sum fee. But less on contract and they will sell now. Had his head turned and they have been planning for him going since. | |
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| Ben Sheaf on 18:43 - Jul 19 with 1209 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Ben Sheaf on 15:47 - Jul 19 by _clive_baker_ |
Not for me Clive. I’ve seen a fair bit of him, he’s one of those who strikes me as a really solid player, good at a lot of things but I’m not convinced he’s great at any. I’d wager he’ll spend his career in the 2nd tier and there’s no shame in that, but not one for me that screams step up or premier league potential. |
He would have been in the Prem last season if they accepted the £15 mil tabled.
I know it's one of those things maybe where you have seen certain games (and can say same for me but I have watched him loads). He's top draw. Last season for several reasons was certainly not his best but them coming back to form was massively helped by him getting back to it towards the end.
He can run a game. He's so good at getting back and knocking ball. He can play defensive but perfect role is that Luongo role where he can be box to box. No real weaknesses.
If he lacks anything it would be too level pace. He is very Declan Rice in his style. Lots of people didn't rate Rice for a while until seeing him week in and out. Trust me on this one ;). Respect your opinion though of course. | |
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| Ben Sheaf on 18:55 - Jul 19 with 1108 views | ITFCSG |
The only players I would take from Cov now (as a squad player) are Rudoni and van Ewijk | | | |
| Ben Sheaf on 19:04 - Jul 19 with 1022 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Ben Sheaf on 18:43 - Jul 19 by Nutkins_Return |
He would have been in the Prem last season if they accepted the £15 mil tabled.
I know it's one of those things maybe where you have seen certain games (and can say same for me but I have watched him loads). He's top draw. Last season for several reasons was certainly not his best but them coming back to form was massively helped by him getting back to it towards the end.
He can run a game. He's so good at getting back and knocking ball. He can play defensive but perfect role is that Luongo role where he can be box to box. No real weaknesses.
If he lacks anything it would be too level pace. He is very Declan Rice in his style. Lots of people didn't rate Rice for a while until seeing him week in and out. Trust me on this one ;). Respect your opinion though of course. |
Entitled to your opinion, I just don’t see him stepping up a level.
I’d also question why, at 27, he hasn’t made that move yet. Who did Cov turn down £15m from? There was rumoured interest from what I remember but we were one of the clubs rumoured and I’m not sure it went any further than that. My question would be if a premier league or even top championship side wanted him, then what’s been the blocker to getting him out? | | | |
| Ben Sheaf on 19:19 - Jul 19 with 923 views | Nutkins_Return |
| Ben Sheaf on 19:04 - Jul 19 by _clive_baker_ |
Entitled to your opinion, I just don’t see him stepping up a level.
I’d also question why, at 27, he hasn’t made that move yet. Who did Cov turn down £15m from? There was rumoured interest from what I remember but we were one of the clubs rumoured and I’m not sure it went any further than that. My question would be if a premier league or even top championship side wanted him, then what’s been the blocker to getting him out? |
The main reason because they wouldn't sell him. So that's hardly his fault is it. Let's also not forget he was very close to getting to Prem with Cov and he wanted to do it with them.
We were definitely in for him. They had an offer/strong enquiry at that level and they wouldn't sell. I don't know 100% it was from us but I do know Sheaf was internally pushing for it (a bit like Sammy but not refusing to play).
Let's see anyway. I think he will probably move this window but not sure if he will get that Prem move. For the champ he'd be excellent and our double pivot couldn't suit him much better. | |
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| Ben Sheaf on 19:32 - Jul 19 with 827 views | _clive_baker_ |
| Ben Sheaf on 19:19 - Jul 19 by Nutkins_Return |
The main reason because they wouldn't sell him. So that's hardly his fault is it. Let's also not forget he was very close to getting to Prem with Cov and he wanted to do it with them.
We were definitely in for him. They had an offer/strong enquiry at that level and they wouldn't sell. I don't know 100% it was from us but I do know Sheaf was internally pushing for it (a bit like Sammy but not refusing to play).
Let's see anyway. I think he will probably move this window but not sure if he will get that Prem move. For the champ he'd be excellent and our double pivot couldn't suit him much better. |
They would sell him at a price. Everyone has a price. I find it hard to believe there’s been concrete demand from higher up the chain and it hasn’t happened. It would be quite unique, bigger championship clubs than Cov have lost plenty of players to the premier league. If PL clubs really want them, they generally get them.
The sort of player for me where you would pay £4m - £5m as a solid and experienced Championship midfielder, but there’s no way I’m spending 8 figures on him. 2 years ago I’d jump at that sort of player, but where we’re at now I’d want to be aiming higher. | | | |
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