| This CEO scandal 21:45 - Jul 19 with 5429 views | Swailsey |
How does everyone feel about it?
Obviously (OBVIOUSLY) cheating is wrong (if that is what they did), but it feels really unsavoury how it’s all played out so publicly, for all the families involved.
He’s also resigned now too - which feels extreme as well. *edit* resigning makes sense. [Post edited 19 Jul 21:53]
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| This CEO scandal on 01:32 - Jul 20 with 922 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
In Europe there is a right to a private life.
The Brexit vote removed that from all of us who live in the UK.
Private lives should remain private. I am disgusted that The Guardian, which I finally took the plunge and subscribed to this year, seeing it as a necessity that needed funding in the age of algorithms and billionaire media barons, has gone all in on this story since the beginning. I am going to have to consider whether I will fund it in future.
Pure prurient tabloid tittle tattle.
It's not news, just because it happened at a Coldplay concert.
If the Minister of Defence (or similar) does it, there is a national security issue because of the risk of blackmail (Profumo affair).
But if two executives in a medium sized business are a bit handsy (consensually) at a works outing where drink has been consumed, that's for them to work through once the hangover wears off. And explain to any partners.
And if two individuals go to a concert privately and dance together, that's between them and any significant others either or both may have, not for press reporting. |  | | |
| This CEO scandal on 06:38 - Jul 20 with 829 views | NedPlimpton |
| This CEO scandal on 01:08 - Jul 20 by Bugs |
This is a good point. Unlikely, but far from impossible.
A significant amount of relationships are not what most would call "normal". One being that, one or both parties can have a bit of "fun" on the side, with the other's blessing, or even encouragement.
Society as it is, in that scenario, if you were caught with another partner, you would be better off saying that you were caught having an affair, rather than your Mrs knew about it and you had her blessing. |
Erm, then why would he hide? |  | | |
| This CEO scandal on 07:02 - Jul 20 with 788 views | tcblue |
| This CEO scandal on 21:51 - Jul 19 by WeWereZombies |
They would have been fine if Chris Martin had kept his mouth shut. |
It's the worst thing he's done since leaving Scum | | | |
| This CEO scandal on 07:59 - Jul 20 with 733 views | djgooder |
I do typically agree with the general sentiment above, ie he behaved incorrectly and deserves to go, social media has played a ridiculous part in it, and I feel sorry for others affected.
But the bit missing is that other person is the CPO and is responsible for the culture and behaviours within her organisation. Why hasn’t she gone? Obviously processes will be played out internally and she may well go.
It just worries me the focus is purely on him. Her level of seniority equates to his as CEO. It is different to him fumbling his secretary. I guess what I am saying is that if we want equality then everyone must be treated equally. It’s kind of in the name. |  | | |
| This CEO scandal on 08:06 - Jul 20 with 717 views | bsw72 |
| This CEO scandal on 01:32 - Jul 20 by ArnoldMoorhen |
In Europe there is a right to a private life.
The Brexit vote removed that from all of us who live in the UK.
Private lives should remain private. I am disgusted that The Guardian, which I finally took the plunge and subscribed to this year, seeing it as a necessity that needed funding in the age of algorithms and billionaire media barons, has gone all in on this story since the beginning. I am going to have to consider whether I will fund it in future.
Pure prurient tabloid tittle tattle.
It's not news, just because it happened at a Coldplay concert.
If the Minister of Defence (or similar) does it, there is a national security issue because of the risk of blackmail (Profumo affair).
But if two executives in a medium sized business are a bit handsy (consensually) at a works outing where drink has been consumed, that's for them to work through once the hangover wears off. And explain to any partners.
And if two individuals go to a concert privately and dance together, that's between them and any significant others either or both may have, not for press reporting. |
You need to calm down a little, as while it’s true that the European Union (EU) emphasizes privacy rights, particularly through the Charter of Fundamental Rights, Brexit did not remove the right to a private life for people in the UK.
That right is still protected under Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), which the UK remains a signatory to and enforces through the Human Rights Act 1998. The ECHR is not an EU institution, so leaving the EU had no direct effect on these rights. UK courts continue to uphold the right to respect for private and family life, home, and correspondence, independently of EU membership. |  | | |
| This CEO scandal on 08:17 - Jul 20 with 683 views | NedPlimpton |
| This CEO scandal on 07:59 - Jul 20 by djgooder |
I do typically agree with the general sentiment above, ie he behaved incorrectly and deserves to go, social media has played a ridiculous part in it, and I feel sorry for others affected.
But the bit missing is that other person is the CPO and is responsible for the culture and behaviours within her organisation. Why hasn’t she gone? Obviously processes will be played out internally and she may well go.
It just worries me the focus is purely on him. Her level of seniority equates to his as CEO. It is different to him fumbling his secretary. I guess what I am saying is that if we want equality then everyone must be treated equally. It’s kind of in the name. |
I can't speak for the Astronomer structure but the CEO tends to be a more senior position.
What I've seen an awful lot of us her being referred to as "HR boss" rather than Chief People Officer. Whereas he is always called CEO. Make of that what you will [Post edited 20 Jul 8:24]
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| This CEO scandal on 08:21 - Jul 20 with 679 views | Churchman |
| This CEO scandal on 07:59 - Jul 20 by djgooder |
I do typically agree with the general sentiment above, ie he behaved incorrectly and deserves to go, social media has played a ridiculous part in it, and I feel sorry for others affected.
But the bit missing is that other person is the CPO and is responsible for the culture and behaviours within her organisation. Why hasn’t she gone? Obviously processes will be played out internally and she may well go.
It just worries me the focus is purely on him. Her level of seniority equates to his as CEO. It is different to him fumbling his secretary. I guess what I am saying is that if we want equality then everyone must be treated equally. It’s kind of in the name. |
Surely, if he’s CEO there’s a code of behaviour that goes with the big bucks he was paid. He’s made a fool of himself and his company and presumably has had some explaining to do to his family.
He’s not just landed from Mars. Social media has been around a while and it’s not going away. It makes him all the more stupid fumbling about as he did. The woman concerned? That’s between her, her family and her employers.
As for equality, I don’t see that as relevant. With certain jobs comes certain responsibilities. It depends on what you do and who for.
This bloke got what he deserved. [Post edited 20 Jul 8:21]
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| This CEO scandal on 08:22 - Jul 20 with 675 views | Chris_ITFC |
It’s all hilarious (not), until one of them is pushed so far by it all, they end up doing something silly, e.g. taking their own life - which isn’t as far fetched as it sounds.
Just imagine if you were in that position, with your life suddenly under the microscope of MILLIONS of people, all using you for their own entertainment. Unfortunately that’s the age we live in.
Sympathy for the bystanders involved of course - but at the most basic level, these were 2 people just doing something that made them happy.
Of course, there should be consequences (employment etc), but the way the media / social media treat individuals as their own personal play thing is pretty messed up. |  |
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| This CEO scandal on 08:26 - Jul 20 with 660 views | djgooder |
| This CEO scandal on 08:21 - Jul 20 by Churchman |
Surely, if he’s CEO there’s a code of behaviour that goes with the big bucks he was paid. He’s made a fool of himself and his company and presumably has had some explaining to do to his family.
He’s not just landed from Mars. Social media has been around a while and it’s not going away. It makes him all the more stupid fumbling about as he did. The woman concerned? That’s between her, her family and her employers.
As for equality, I don’t see that as relevant. With certain jobs comes certain responsibilities. It depends on what you do and who for.
This bloke got what he deserved. [Post edited 20 Jul 8:21]
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I do agree that he has to go and his position was more senior.
My point is her position is also very senior, marginally less than his, but specifically her roles is to develop the the cultures and behaviours in her organisation. So she should be held responsible for her beaviours too.
I hope this comes out in the near future. How can she now hold other colleagues responsible, surely she is it longer credible in her role. | | | |
| This CEO scandal on 08:40 - Jul 20 with 627 views | Basuco |
She joined the company in November 2024, was the affair with the CEO one of the reasons she was given the job? Or did they only meet after she started the role? |  | | |
| All publicity is good publicity on 08:49 - Jul 20 with 596 views | Pendejo |
The company involved will harvest the free publicity handed to them on a plate.
With regards the two individuals; had they ridden it out, we would never have heard of it, not a ripple. The guilty reaction captures, focuses and magnifies attention.
Their crime is getting caught, and they trapped themselves.
As for the moral hand wringing; this happened in the USofA, a country that has elected a man as president who has how many questionable morals?
And we had a man as PM who had cheated on a wife being treated for cancer.
Both have brazenly toughed it out, and continue to "thrive" despite their deficient morals.
The CEO of a company I hadn't heard of until this incident, not really as important as the above.
This sort of thing is as old as monogamous marriage
Oh, it's pointing out he is co-founder of the Company, he may no longer have the day job, but I'm sure he'll be ok financially. |  |
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| This CEO scandal on 08:57 - Jul 20 with 584 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| This CEO scandal on 08:06 - Jul 20 by bsw72 |
You need to calm down a little, as while it’s true that the European Union (EU) emphasizes privacy rights, particularly through the Charter of Fundamental Rights, Brexit did not remove the right to a private life for people in the UK.
That right is still protected under Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), which the UK remains a signatory to and enforces through the Human Rights Act 1998. The ECHR is not an EU institution, so leaving the EU had no direct effect on these rights. UK courts continue to uphold the right to respect for private and family life, home, and correspondence, independently of EU membership. |
Alright Michael Winner!
Ah yes! We are still in the Convention on Human Rights, but the last Government briefed about the possibility of leaving it every fortnight, and I am not sure how long I'd give it until the Court for Human Rights butts heads with Starmer over small boats or Pal******* A*****, and he, too, finds it impossibly burdensome. | | | |
| This CEO scandal on 09:02 - Jul 20 with 567 views | Churchman |
| This CEO scandal on 08:26 - Jul 20 by djgooder |
I do agree that he has to go and his position was more senior.
My point is her position is also very senior, marginally less than his, but specifically her roles is to develop the the cultures and behaviours in her organisation. So she should be held responsible for her beaviours too.
I hope this comes out in the near future. How can she now hold other colleagues responsible, surely she is it longer credible in her role. |
I don’t disagree with that. She should be held accountable and would be if it was my organisation.
In a sense, what happens between individuals is their business - and of course their families. But the world is what it is and you cannot de-invent social media, media intrusion/interest. If you hold a senior, newsworthy position, like a CEO, why would risk that when there are plenty of private places you fumble away to your hearts content?
It’s the stupidity of them setting themselves up in that way I find surprising. | | | |
| This CEO scandal on 09:17 - Jul 20 with 542 views | BloomBlue |
He was stupid, he got caught.
From a personal perspective it is up to them and families to resolve.
But re their employment, I found most American companies I worked for (and it's possible it has changed now) had all employees attest to, what was often called, a code of conduct. This didn't overrule the law of the land, but it did mean companies could sack people on their conduct rather than breaking law.
For example having an internal relationship isn't breaking the law (unless you're in the military) and companies couldn't sack you on that. But their 'code of conduct' may stipulate no internal relationships in situations xyz, thus they can dismiss people on that. If the individual then tried court action, the company will argue, you signed / attested the code of conduct.
I remember 3 cases in the UK where the individual lost the court action because they had signed a contract ie the code of conduct. The judge basically told the individual xyz may be allowed in terms of the law, but you signed a contract that said you agreed you wouldn't conduct that type of activity in that situation during employment. You choose you break it, therefore the company can terminate your employment contract (with no financial payment) with them. Obviously the conduct cannot force you to break the law, ie if it said you can only employ white people the company is breaking the law
Now I'm going back 25ish years and this was mainly in technology/financial companies.
It was actually introduced because of porn surfing on the Internet. Some companies in the early days of the Internet tried to sack staff for watching porn on company equipment during working hours. This was challenged by individuals based on its not against the law and their original terms and conditions didnt exclude it, and won their cases. Companies subsequently started changing their T&Cs but some also started to introduce yearly code of conducts as that allowed them to add additional conduct rules and respond to fast moving technology changes.
I'm sure a CEO and HR* head of an American company would have some form of code of conduct. After all, CEO probably has big input on things like payrise/bonus.. equals poss situation, having sh@gged head of HR, head of HR then discusses now I've taken your rise, I need a bigger slice of that payrise/bonus for me and my team, just reduce the pot from those plebs in cleaning team.
*or whatever Americans call HR department now, I know HR was typically British and US was invariably ER, Employee Relations |  | | |
| All publicity is good publicity on 09:24 - Jul 20 with 511 views | WeWereZombies |
| All publicity is good publicity on 08:49 - Jul 20 by Pendejo |
The company involved will harvest the free publicity handed to them on a plate.
With regards the two individuals; had they ridden it out, we would never have heard of it, not a ripple. The guilty reaction captures, focuses and magnifies attention.
Their crime is getting caught, and they trapped themselves.
As for the moral hand wringing; this happened in the USofA, a country that has elected a man as president who has how many questionable morals?
And we had a man as PM who had cheated on a wife being treated for cancer.
Both have brazenly toughed it out, and continue to "thrive" despite their deficient morals.
The CEO of a company I hadn't heard of until this incident, not really as important as the above.
This sort of thing is as old as monogamous marriage
Oh, it's pointing out he is co-founder of the Company, he may no longer have the day job, but I'm sure he'll be ok financially. |
Not just free publicity for Astronomer the company but a timely deflection of attention from someone else's indiscretions that hit the news a couple of days ago - coincidence ? |  |
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| This CEO scandal on 09:30 - Jul 20 with 497 views | bsw72 |
| This CEO scandal on 08:57 - Jul 20 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Alright Michael Winner!
Ah yes! We are still in the Convention on Human Rights, but the last Government briefed about the possibility of leaving it every fortnight, and I am not sure how long I'd give it until the Court for Human Rights butts heads with Starmer over small boats or Pal******* A*****, and he, too, finds it impossibly burdensome. |
That’s as may be in the future. I was merely pointing out your emotional rant was factually incorrect. So let me get this right, your moan was not about privacy but government policy and the fact that morally it seems to be wayward.
Why not say that rather than make stuff up? | | | |
| This CEO scandal on 09:40 - Jul 20 with 472 views | blueasfook |
| This CEO scandal on 01:32 - Jul 20 by ArnoldMoorhen |
In Europe there is a right to a private life.
The Brexit vote removed that from all of us who live in the UK.
Private lives should remain private. I am disgusted that The Guardian, which I finally took the plunge and subscribed to this year, seeing it as a necessity that needed funding in the age of algorithms and billionaire media barons, has gone all in on this story since the beginning. I am going to have to consider whether I will fund it in future.
Pure prurient tabloid tittle tattle.
It's not news, just because it happened at a Coldplay concert.
If the Minister of Defence (or similar) does it, there is a national security issue because of the risk of blackmail (Profumo affair).
But if two executives in a medium sized business are a bit handsy (consensually) at a works outing where drink has been consumed, that's for them to work through once the hangover wears off. And explain to any partners.
And if two individuals go to a concert privately and dance together, that's between them and any significant others either or both may have, not for press reporting. |
They were out in public though, and pretty much brought the attention on themselves by the way they acted when the crowd camera focused on them. I think the right to privacy only extends as far as not flaunting your infidelity at a concert attended by 1000s |  |
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| This CEO scandal on 09:47 - Jul 20 with 448 views | J2BLUE |
I feel for his family.
Tempted to take a shot at people who work in HR as well but that probably wouldn't be fair. |  |
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| This CEO scandal on 10:12 - Jul 20 with 396 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| This CEO scandal on 09:30 - Jul 20 by bsw72 |
That’s as may be in the future. I was merely pointing out your emotional rant was factually incorrect. So let me get this right, your moan was not about privacy but government policy and the fact that morally it seems to be wayward.
Why not say that rather than make stuff up? |
I made a little mistake, thinking that the "right to private life" were dependent on EU law, rather than the separate Treaty.
That's it. It wasn't "an emotional rant".
It wasn't even the main thrust of what I was saying, but an aside.
The main thrust of what I was saying was about the tabloidisation of all news sources, and people's weird need to pry into and judge others' private lives. | | | |
| This CEO scandal on 10:12 - Jul 20 with 398 views | lowhouseblue |
| This CEO scandal on 09:40 - Jul 20 by blueasfook |
They were out in public though, and pretty much brought the attention on themselves by the way they acted when the crowd camera focused on them. I think the right to privacy only extends as far as not flaunting your infidelity at a concert attended by 1000s |
you're right when "flaunting your infidelity" is witnessed by someone present at the concert - either directly or on the screen there. doubtless someone there amongst the 10,000 would inevitably have recognised them. but having it plastered all over social media in a global spasm of voyeurism is a different privacy issue entirely. it's quite possible to have a concept of privacy that says that third parties shouldn't publish intimate details of your life - even when others have been present to witness them directly. perhaps they would have been sacked without the social media coverage - someone there could have reported them - but the global frenzy amongst people with no possible connection is unpleasant. |  |
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| This CEO scandal on 10:13 - Jul 20 with 384 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| This CEO scandal on 01:32 - Jul 20 by ArnoldMoorhen |
In Europe there is a right to a private life.
The Brexit vote removed that from all of us who live in the UK.
Private lives should remain private. I am disgusted that The Guardian, which I finally took the plunge and subscribed to this year, seeing it as a necessity that needed funding in the age of algorithms and billionaire media barons, has gone all in on this story since the beginning. I am going to have to consider whether I will fund it in future.
Pure prurient tabloid tittle tattle.
It's not news, just because it happened at a Coldplay concert.
If the Minister of Defence (or similar) does it, there is a national security issue because of the risk of blackmail (Profumo affair).
But if two executives in a medium sized business are a bit handsy (consensually) at a works outing where drink has been consumed, that's for them to work through once the hangover wears off. And explain to any partners.
And if two individuals go to a concert privately and dance together, that's between them and any significant others either or both may have, not for press reporting. |
You’re right, the media never ever intruded into anyone’s private life before 2020 |  |
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| This CEO scandal on 10:19 - Jul 20 with 367 views | Crawfordsboot |
Good Morning.
I’m left wondering how many of the posters on here have had an affair, a one night stand or even just flirted at a works do.
Answers on a postcard! |  | | |
| This CEO scandal on 10:27 - Jul 20 with 341 views | Nutkins_Return |
| This CEO scandal on 23:29 - Jul 19 by hatch |
Agreed.
I’m enjoying the memes etc in this short window but I don’t think I know of something to blow up as quickly as this has. It’s one of the most viral images I’ve ever known.
And fine, it’s awful and fully agree with all the concerns for wife and kids, but this is the sort of thing that would make someone top themselves. Of course people need their comeuppance but this worldwide scrutiny must be horrendous and I do think about people’s mental health in this modern day media blowups. |
Exactly my thoughts. Not a lot you can do about the spread. It was kind of ok that they were caught out and posted but it's become something very different now. It's like a pack of online wolves now ripping them apart and laughing.
It's exactly the sort of thing that could end horribly either for them or the completely humiliated wider family.
It's an old fashioned mob lynching mentality but people don't see it as it's online. | |
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| This CEO scandal on 11:00 - Jul 20 with 296 views | WeWereZombies |
| This CEO scandal on 10:19 - Jul 20 by Crawfordsboot |
Good Morning.
I’m left wondering how many of the posters on here have had an affair, a one night stand or even just flirted at a works do.
Answers on a postcard! |
C'mon, if you spend any time on a football forum you are the least likely person ever to have affairs...that's my story and I'm sticking to it. | |
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| This CEO scandal on 11:03 - Jul 20 with 288 views | DJR |
| This CEO scandal on 10:19 - Jul 20 by Crawfordsboot |
Good Morning.
I’m left wondering how many of the posters on here have had an affair, a one night stand or even just flirted at a works do.
Answers on a postcard! |
That's a typical week for me. |  | | |
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