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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? 23:58 - Nov 4 with 1684 viewsStenvict

Ref got it correct. Was one of the only things he actually got right.

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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 01:02 - Nov 5 with 1548 viewsGarv

Opinions on the referee are interesting tonight, but predictable at the same time, and it kind of tells a story about the people on opposing sides of the argument.

Anyone thinking he refereed that badly tonight basically doesn't want games of football to flow. It was a superb lesson to players that you can't just buy free kicks because you got touched and you usually get them. *Cough Philogene *cough

The only annoying this is that you won't see another game this season officiated like that.

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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 01:19 - Nov 5 with 1538 viewsSarge

Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 01:02 - Nov 5 by Garv

Opinions on the referee are interesting tonight, but predictable at the same time, and it kind of tells a story about the people on opposing sides of the argument.

Anyone thinking he refereed that badly tonight basically doesn't want games of football to flow. It was a superb lesson to players that you can't just buy free kicks because you got touched and you usually get them. *Cough Philogene *cough

The only annoying this is that you won't see another game this season officiated like that.


My only issue with him was his steadfast refusal to book Watford players after the 5th/6th/7th foul.
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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 01:32 - Nov 5 with 1504 viewsMatt_Netherlands

Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 01:02 - Nov 5 by Garv

Opinions on the referee are interesting tonight, but predictable at the same time, and it kind of tells a story about the people on opposing sides of the argument.

Anyone thinking he refereed that badly tonight basically doesn't want games of football to flow. It was a superb lesson to players that you can't just buy free kicks because you got touched and you usually get them. *Cough Philogene *cough

The only annoying this is that you won't see another game this season officiated like that.


Agree with this 100% - he let a lot go which helped the game flow and limited their time wasting. When that happens you have to accept some decisions will not be awarded to us, but that’s the rub of the green

Like others said, his reluctance to dish out some cards was a little frustrating though.
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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 07:53 - Nov 5 with 1151 viewsScuzzer

Explain how he got it right please.

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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 07:56 - Nov 5 with 1140 viewsRIPbobby

Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 01:19 - Nov 5 by Sarge

My only issue with him was his steadfast refusal to book Watford players after the 5th/6th/7th foul.


I don't mind him letting things go as such, but the 6 professional fouls in the first half resulted in 1 booking. Lousy.
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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 07:58 - Nov 5 with 1129 viewsUSA

He bottled the second yellow on the Watford forward after he assaulted Ben Johnson

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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 08:04 - Nov 5 with 1095 viewsHerbivore

Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 01:02 - Nov 5 by Garv

Opinions on the referee are interesting tonight, but predictable at the same time, and it kind of tells a story about the people on opposing sides of the argument.

Anyone thinking he refereed that badly tonight basically doesn't want games of football to flow. It was a superb lesson to players that you can't just buy free kicks because you got touched and you usually get them. *Cough Philogene *cough

The only annoying this is that you won't see another game this season officiated like that.


There's letting the game flow and then there's failing to book players for repeated cynical fouls and basically letting Watford kick lumps out of us. A few times he played advantage when there wasn't one and we ended up losing the ball, a couple of those occasions the foul was yellow worthy and he gave nothing. Totally bottled giving a second yellow in the second half. He didn't have a good game.

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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 08:48 - Nov 5 with 964 viewstractorshark

Genuinely baffled by the ref last night.
I don’t mind him not giving fouls every second when Jaden or others were looking for them.
(I’m pretty sure that was why Matusiwa had a pop at him).
But as for letting the game flow, no, he didn’t.
From the first corner in the opening minute, he made sure he took every opportunity to stop play to deliver a lecture to players.
And the challenge on Akpom in the first half was as clear a booking as you’re going to see this season.
That set the tone for some meaty challenges that went unpunished.
The first booking in the second half the Watford player actually slips. The ref wasn’t going to book him until he heard the crowd reaction.
And the bookings that followed were no worse than those challenges in the first half.
You can talk about accumulation of fouls but we were way past that.
This just smacked of a weak ref who didn’t want to get his cards out early because he’ll have to deliver a red later.
You know Baah’s second challenge would have been a booking had he not already been on a yellow.
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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 09:18 - Nov 5 with 857 viewsGarv

Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 08:04 - Nov 5 by Herbivore

There's letting the game flow and then there's failing to book players for repeated cynical fouls and basically letting Watford kick lumps out of us. A few times he played advantage when there wasn't one and we ended up losing the ball, a couple of those occasions the foul was yellow worthy and he gave nothing. Totally bottled giving a second yellow in the second half. He didn't have a good game.


I don't think they were cynical fouls though, as much as they might have looked like it from a home team perspective. They were often just clumsy fouls where our player has got their body in the way and forced the foul. That's not necessarily a yellow.

Also think Furlong made the most of the tackle that supposedly should have seen a second yellow.

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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 09:21 - Nov 5 with 832 viewsChris_ITFC

Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 07:53 - Nov 5 by Scuzzer

Explain how he got it right please.


A recent rule change means the defending team may take the free-kick for offside from the position the attacking player received the ball, to speed up play.

This sometimes leads to quirks like that, where the offside player comes back into his own half by the time he touches it, (having been offside in the opponent’s half when the ball was kicked).

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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 09:22 - Nov 5 with 810 viewsredrickstuhaart

Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 09:21 - Nov 5 by Chris_ITFC

A recent rule change means the defending team may take the free-kick for offside from the position the attacking player received the ball, to speed up play.

This sometimes leads to quirks like that, where the offside player comes back into his own half by the time he touches it, (having been offside in the opponent’s half when the ball was kicked).


What a stupid rule change, especially given the absence of any attempt to deal with the things which actually break up and slow play.
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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 09:24 - Nov 5 with 795 viewsChris_ITFC

Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 07:53 - Nov 5 by Scuzzer

Explain how he got it right please.


Or, officially:

If an offside offence occurs, the referee awards an indirect free kick where the offence occurred, including if it is in the player’s own half of the field of play.

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11

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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 09:25 - Nov 5 with 778 viewsChris_ITFC

Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 09:22 - Nov 5 by redrickstuhaart

What a stupid rule change, especially given the absence of any attempt to deal with the things which actually break up and slow play.


I like it. The place the player receives the ball is also where the ball is - so the free-kick can be taken straight away, rather than moving backwards / sideways to wherever he was when the ball was kicked.

Makes much more sense. It’s just a quirk that it might be in the other half.

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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 12:27 - Nov 5 with 620 viewsHerbivore

Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 09:18 - Nov 5 by Garv

I don't think they were cynical fouls though, as much as they might have looked like it from a home team perspective. They were often just clumsy fouls where our player has got their body in the way and forced the foul. That's not necessarily a yellow.

Also think Furlong made the most of the tackle that supposedly should have seen a second yellow.


I sometimes feel like you and I aren't watching the same game.

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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 13:08 - Nov 5 with 556 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 08:04 - Nov 5 by Herbivore

There's letting the game flow and then there's failing to book players for repeated cynical fouls and basically letting Watford kick lumps out of us. A few times he played advantage when there wasn't one and we ended up losing the ball, a couple of those occasions the foul was yellow worthy and he gave nothing. Totally bottled giving a second yellow in the second half. He didn't have a good game.


I was going to write pretty much this so you've saved me the job.

I said to my mates either side of me that this ref reminds me of the teacher at school who wants to be the cool one who's a mate of the students before a teacher... but is actually pretty useless at actual teaching. Essentially he was trying too hard to be a good ref who lets the game flow. There is a limit!

That failure to award a second yellow was shocking ...but the annoying thing is he's probably pleased with that performance and keeping everyone on the pitch.

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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 13:10 - Nov 5 with 544 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 09:18 - Nov 5 by Garv

I don't think they were cynical fouls though, as much as they might have looked like it from a home team perspective. They were often just clumsy fouls where our player has got their body in the way and forced the foul. That's not necessarily a yellow.

Also think Furlong made the most of the tackle that supposedly should have seen a second yellow.


You're having a laugh aren't you? Never mind a booking, I thought that was borderline straight red at the time!

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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 13:58 - Nov 5 with 419 viewsFrimleyBlue

Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 13:10 - Nov 5 by The_Flashing_Smile

You're having a laugh aren't you? Never mind a booking, I thought that was borderline straight red at the time!


He never touched him did he? i thought thats why the ref didn't give the 2nd yellow. He;d already blown for a foul so couldn't go back on that but thought perhaps the lino signalled that there wasn't actually contact. I need to see it again, but that's what i thought when i saw the replay

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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 14:11 - Nov 5 with 387 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 13:58 - Nov 5 by FrimleyBlue

He never touched him did he? i thought thats why the ref didn't give the 2nd yellow. He;d already blown for a foul so couldn't go back on that but thought perhaps the lino signalled that there wasn't actually contact. I need to see it again, but that's what i thought when i saw the replay


It's not on the highlights I've seen but their player looked to have chopped Johnson in half from my view at the time!

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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 14:18 - Nov 5 with 368 viewsredrickstuhaart

Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 09:24 - Nov 5 by Chris_ITFC

Or, officially:

If an offside offence occurs, the referee awards an indirect free kick where the offence occurred, including if it is in the player’s own half of the field of play.

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11


Err. The offence occurs when the ball is played, not when a player receives it. More revisionist nonsense from the football authorities.
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Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 14:28 - Nov 5 with 338 viewsFrimleyBlue

Has the offside free kick being taken in their half been discussed? on 14:11 - Nov 5 by The_Flashing_Smile

It's not on the highlights I've seen but their player looked to have chopped Johnson in half from my view at the time!


Yep did to me to in realtime, but then caught the replay and it looked like a jump up and pull your legs in by johnson.

If im right that would explain the ref

if indeed however it was a foul then yes all day long should have been a 2nd yellow

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