| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? 15:20 - Nov 11 with 1185 views | Dubtractor |
So many managers losing their job at the first sign of poor form.
I'm so glad that our owners, plus Ashton, are more prepared to be patient.
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| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 15:33 - Nov 11 with 1134 views | tractorboy1978 |
Particularly bad in the Championship but the division is so tight that I imagine a lot of owners think a quick bump in form could take them from lower mid-table to being in the play-off picture. Imagine the QPR/West Brom owners are getting a touch twitchy right now. And Davies is probably a 3/4 bad game run from being in a bit of bother at Birmingham too. Several clubs looking at Preston, Hull, Millwall and thinking we have a better squad than them I would think. [Post edited 11 Nov 15:34]
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| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 15:42 - Nov 11 with 1076 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Normally I'd agree but anything that increases the sense of panic at carrot rd atm I'm all for.
But yes, if you dont have instant impact or have a bad run you can be out so quickly. No time to build anymore |  |
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| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 15:50 - Nov 11 with 1032 views | bluewein |
| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 15:33 - Nov 11 by tractorboy1978 |
Particularly bad in the Championship but the division is so tight that I imagine a lot of owners think a quick bump in form could take them from lower mid-table to being in the play-off picture. Imagine the QPR/West Brom owners are getting a touch twitchy right now. And Davies is probably a 3/4 bad game run from being in a bit of bother at Birmingham too. Several clubs looking at Preston, Hull, Millwall and thinking we have a better squad than them I would think. [Post edited 11 Nov 15:34]
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Cifuentes and Mason bought themself 2 or 3 more games on Saturday as well.
Anything less than 6 points from the next 3 games will see them gone for sure... |  |
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| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 16:15 - Nov 11 with 966 views | Bent_double |
I've always thought there should be a points penalty for teams changing managers too often, maybe the 1st is free, but after that 3 points or more deducted each time.
Won't happen of course, but might make some owners or even fans be a bit more patient. |  |
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| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 16:26 - Nov 11 with 914 views | MrBeckinsale |
I only read your first sentence. | | | |
| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 16:27 - Nov 11 with 913 views | Dubtractor |
| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 15:33 - Nov 11 by tractorboy1978 |
Particularly bad in the Championship but the division is so tight that I imagine a lot of owners think a quick bump in form could take them from lower mid-table to being in the play-off picture. Imagine the QPR/West Brom owners are getting a touch twitchy right now. And Davies is probably a 3/4 bad game run from being in a bit of bother at Birmingham too. Several clubs looking at Preston, Hull, Millwall and thinking we have a better squad than them I would think. [Post edited 11 Nov 15:34]
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I understand the thought process, and the prize of promotion is huge, but only 3 teams can win it and 15 games (or less) is no time at all.
I would excuse Norwich from that as they are clearly in a major mess, but a team like Swansea are just slightly under performing in reality. Sure, they expect better, but surely a manager needs a bit more time? | |
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| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 16:27 - Nov 11 with 907 views | flykickingbybgunn |
But that means that the Budgies are going to have to fight even harder to get a manager !
Gutted. |  | | |
| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 16:41 - Nov 11 with 864 views | homer_123 |
| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 16:26 - Nov 11 by MrBeckinsale |
I only read your first sentence. |
That's a real |  |
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| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 17:56 - Nov 11 with 742 views | Illinoisblue |
Not that Twitter is a great barometer but fans of so many clubs seem to be permanently outraged and foomin.
Leicester fans at the weekend singing death threats against Rudkin.
Swansea fans raging at Sheehan, at least until this morning they were
Leeds fans demanding Farke is sacked
Norwich lobbing four tennis balls. lol
Liverpool fans raging that its all gone tits up for them
Sheff Utd fans very unhappy
Brum fans lose their s5it every time they lose
Cov fans understandably happy. Also Sheff Weds looking up despite heading to league one.
Maybe it’s always been like this |  |
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| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 17:59 - Nov 11 with 724 views | GlasgowBlue |
They were discussing this on Blue Monday a couple of days ago.
Club A may not necessarily be looking to sack their manager this early but may have their eye on a certain candidate should things not improve nearer to the January window. The manager of Club B hands in his resignation at the same time as Club C sack their manager, which alerts Club A that their potential January replacement may be wanted by Cl;ub B or C so they sack their manager prematurely and try to get their preferred candidate. So there is a domino effect. |  |
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| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 18:02 - Nov 11 with 709 views | Swansea_Blue |
Fans are certainly getting impatient (and easily angry). It was only a couple of weeks ago that the Swans had a full stadium against Man City and they were saying how well he’d done. |  |
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| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 18:04 - Nov 11 with 717 views | Bellevue_Blue |
I'm not sure our owners/ Ashton are more patient ... Ashton sacked Paul Cook after 20 games just a few points off the play offs. Ashton sacked Dean Holden at Bristol City after six months whilst 13th in the Championship table.
We've just been incredibly lucky that KM really has never not met expectations. Even last season, our objective was to stay up but really it was to give it a good fight and he did that up until about February.
I'm not sure there would be as much slack next season if it goes badly wrong again. | | | |
| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 18:19 - Nov 11 with 664 views | BlueBadger |
| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 18:04 - Nov 11 by Bellevue_Blue |
I'm not sure our owners/ Ashton are more patient ... Ashton sacked Paul Cook after 20 games just a few points off the play offs. Ashton sacked Dean Holden at Bristol City after six months whilst 13th in the Championship table.
We've just been incredibly lucky that KM really has never not met expectations. Even last season, our objective was to stay up but really it was to give it a good fight and he did that up until about February.
I'm not sure there would be as much slack next season if it goes badly wrong again. |
Paul Cook sacked too soon, you say?
"Hang your heads in fking shame… 20:27 - Dec 4 with 811 views Keaneish
Mullet
Gtsb
Blue badger
Bloots
N2 Blue
ITFC Joe
…and the rest.
Do you not understand that these forums have massive sway these days? You’ve killed it. We may go on to bigger better things, who knows? Your bitching and whining on here is picked up and has a massive ripple effect. Fking knobs the lot of you. For weeks you’ve been stamping your feet like little girls and it gets picked up when all you needed to do was ride it out for a bit. Pathetic. Cook always comes good, he always has done, talk to any Pompey, Wigan or Chesterfield fan.
I’m in Pompey tonight and they’re all shaking their heads. Dkheads the lot of you. Happy to get banned on the back of this. You’re ridiculous. The ramifications are massive which may be placated with money but fk me; learn to kick a ball and know what you’re talking about before you lash out in anger.
A massive shame and a massive shame on you. Cook is working hard. What are you doing other than idly pointing fingers and drawing on nonsense stats.
Nothing but contempt for you lot and your baseless insights into football when you’ve never even kicked a ball. |  |
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| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 18:29 - Nov 11 with 622 views | waveneyblue |
| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 17:56 - Nov 11 by Illinoisblue |
Not that Twitter is a great barometer but fans of so many clubs seem to be permanently outraged and foomin.
Leicester fans at the weekend singing death threats against Rudkin.
Swansea fans raging at Sheehan, at least until this morning they were
Leeds fans demanding Farke is sacked
Norwich lobbing four tennis balls. lol
Liverpool fans raging that its all gone tits up for them
Sheff Utd fans very unhappy
Brum fans lose their s5it every time they lose
Cov fans understandably happy. Also Sheff Weds looking up despite heading to league one.
Maybe it’s always been like this |
There's always been a lack of patience, but the outrage and foomin is much worse now.
also....
Imagine if the play offs didn't exist, it would be even worse.... |  | | |
| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 18:48 - Nov 11 with 562 views | Illinoisblue |
| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 18:29 - Nov 11 by waveneyblue |
There's always been a lack of patience, but the outrage and foomin is much worse now.
also....
Imagine if the play offs didn't exist, it would be even worse.... |
That’s a good point re the playoffs. Hard to imagine life without them now. | |
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| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 21:32 - Nov 11 with 370 views | Garv |
I'd actually change one word in your title.
Football is getting far too important.
And that effectively justifies how impatient it is. Even aside from the money clubs and players can earn it they do well, the absolute demand from fans is not stop. It's funny, we all say the merry go round is ridiculous and scoff at other clubs, but we'll soon be making demands of our own club's hierarchy if things were trending a certain way.
I do agree with the point about the owners and Ashton though. It would be interesting how it would go with McKenna if we started genuinely looking poor and underperforming regularly, e.g Southampton. Hopefully we never find out. |  |
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| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 22:29 - Nov 11 with 242 views | Churchman |
| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 18:04 - Nov 11 by Bellevue_Blue |
I'm not sure our owners/ Ashton are more patient ... Ashton sacked Paul Cook after 20 games just a few points off the play offs. Ashton sacked Dean Holden at Bristol City after six months whilst 13th in the Championship table.
We've just been incredibly lucky that KM really has never not met expectations. Even last season, our objective was to stay up but really it was to give it a good fight and he did that up until about February.
I'm not sure there would be as much slack next season if it goes badly wrong again. |
I wavered over Cook but said he should be given until end of Oct, then extended to end of Nov.
He was just a poor fit for the club. Good manager and one who knows a player, he just wasn’t right for here. One of those things and not a reflection on him. He had to go. In many ways, they should have removed him at the end of the previous season, but the CEO didn’t start until June and the club was between a rock and a hard place.
The first warning bell was his public rant after the players downed tools. He was right to go bonkers, but not there, not then. Next came the bomb squad. At best amateurish at worst down right daft and wasteful.
In McKenna it was a great bit of recruitment and a terrific decision by McKenna to come here. A good fit from the start. If things go badly this season, I hope he stays. If it starts badly on top of that next season, there will have to be a parting of the ways, unless there’s a very good reason why.
The owners will make the decision and I suspect MA will be out too. That’s assuming a better job offer for KM doesn’t come in the meantime, which I think it might.
That’s how I see it. But as it goes, I see a good team being built here. One better than 23/24 potentially. We just need a bit of that unfashionable dirty word, patience. |  | | |
| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 22:56 - Nov 11 with 190 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 16:15 - Nov 11 by Bent_double |
I've always thought there should be a points penalty for teams changing managers too often, maybe the 1st is free, but after that 3 points or more deducted each time.
Won't happen of course, but might make some owners or even fans be a bit more patient. |
i've always thought manager changes should only be allowed during the two transfer windows. |  |
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| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 23:39 - Nov 11 with 123 views | Bigalhunter |
| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 21:32 - Nov 11 by Garv |
I'd actually change one word in your title.
Football is getting far too important.
And that effectively justifies how impatient it is. Even aside from the money clubs and players can earn it they do well, the absolute demand from fans is not stop. It's funny, we all say the merry go round is ridiculous and scoff at other clubs, but we'll soon be making demands of our own club's hierarchy if things were trending a certain way.
I do agree with the point about the owners and Ashton though. It would be interesting how it would go with McKenna if we started genuinely looking poor and underperforming regularly, e.g Southampton. Hopefully we never find out. |
It’s a catch 22, because clubs have pretty much stopped giving a toss about inconveniencing the paying fans who turn up each week.
If there’s tv money available they’ll play whatever time the broadcaster wants without a second’s thought.
It wasn’t long ago they were ready to play one game a season anywhere in the world.
Fans pay a lot more to follow their clubs nowadays and have twigged that they’re utterly disregarded up to the point they start protesting in front of the tv cameras.
It’s only then that the owners realise the marketing potential of their brand is under threat, so they respond to the easiest part of the general displeasure, sack the coach/manager.
Greed and impatience, rinsed and repeated until the club either starts to meet expectations or overstretches itself and spirals into a decade of decline. |  |
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| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 02:47 - Nov 12 with 32 views | Kropotkin123 |
| Football is getting far too impatient, isnt it? on 18:19 - Nov 11 by BlueBadger |
Paul Cook sacked too soon, you say?
"Hang your heads in fking shame… 20:27 - Dec 4 with 811 views Keaneish
Mullet
Gtsb
Blue badger
Bloots
N2 Blue
ITFC Joe
…and the rest.
Do you not understand that these forums have massive sway these days? You’ve killed it. We may go on to bigger better things, who knows? Your bitching and whining on here is picked up and has a massive ripple effect. Fking knobs the lot of you. For weeks you’ve been stamping your feet like little girls and it gets picked up when all you needed to do was ride it out for a bit. Pathetic. Cook always comes good, he always has done, talk to any Pompey, Wigan or Chesterfield fan.
I’m in Pompey tonight and they’re all shaking their heads. Dkheads the lot of you. Happy to get banned on the back of this. You’re ridiculous. The ramifications are massive which may be placated with money but fk me; learn to kick a ball and know what you’re talking about before you lash out in anger.
A massive shame and a massive shame on you. Cook is working hard. What are you doing other than idly pointing fingers and drawing on nonsense stats.
Nothing but contempt for you lot and your baseless insights into football when you’ve never even kicked a ball. |
So it's your fault we've been stuck with McKenna for nearly 4 years!
Just think, if we had stu |  |
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